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Smith was already a 4* but 2 others went from 2* to 3*. Crazy thing is that Hoover went up in the position rankings but down in Stars!?
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Hoover went up in the ranking because rivals moved a bunch of players from weakside D-end to Strongside D-end, thats why it looked like he moved up
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10-25-2007, 07:37 PM
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10-25-2007, 07:39 PM
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unfortunately we are not in the picture
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I'm more hoping for the domino effect.
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10-25-2007, 08:13 PM
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I'm more hoping for the domino effect.
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Since the whole NU debacle there is one kid I want to decommit and come to the green and white --that man is Doug Rippy
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10-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Saw there was talk of this kid, never saw it Official though -
The Spartans struck again in Dayton on Friday with a commitment from talented Trotwood Madison linebacker Jamiihr Williams
http://michiganstate.rivals.com/barr...tid=&mid=&rid=
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10-26-2007, 06:16 PM
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NU =  :sinking: 
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10-26-2007, 06:16 PM
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Hell yes! Let's go get 2 or 3 more LBs!
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10-26-2007, 06:25 PM
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Hell yes! Let's go get 2 or 3 more LBs!
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LB's?????
who the hell needs those
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10-26-2007, 06:46 PM
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One thing I really like about this class, I don't see any weak links or kids that I don't see making any sort of impact for the program. This recruiting depth is the key to building depth on the field.
Go Green! 
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What in the hell are you talking about?
You sound like Obi-Wan. Chill out, drama queen.
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10-26-2007, 07:17 PM
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One thing I really like about this class, I don't see any weak links or kids that I don't see making any sort of impact for the program. This recruiting depth is the key to building depth on the field.
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not to sound like a smartazz....but you saw weak link kids in previous classes that would have to chance on making an impact?
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10-26-2007, 07:21 PM
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not to sound like a smartazz....but you saw weak link kids in previous classes that would have to chance on making an impact?
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Yeah, I felt like JLS, after he got verbals from players that he could actually land, would fill the last 5 or so spots with kids that maybe shouldnt deserve a schollie but wanted to make sure that everything was filled.
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What in the hell are you talking about?
You sound like Obi-Wan. Chill out, drama queen.
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10-26-2007, 07:40 PM
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One thing I really like about this class, I don't see any weak links or kids that I don't see making any sort of impact for the program. This recruiting depth is the key to building depth on the field.
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Yeah, I felt like JLS, after he got verbals from players that he could actually land, would fill the last 5 or so spots with kids that maybe shouldnt deserve a schollie but wanted to make sure that everything was filled.
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I think this is BS, I recall maybe three commits during his tender that I thought would never contribute, saying 5 per class is just silly.
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10-26-2007, 07:51 PM
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I think this is BS, I recall maybe three commits during his tender that I thought would never contribute, saying 5 per class is just silly.
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I would say I was right, hence the reason why we have zero depth right now at almost all positions.
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What in the hell are you talking about?
You sound like Obi-Wan. Chill out, drama queen.
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10-26-2007, 08:59 PM
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I would say I was right, hence the reason why we have zero depth right now at almost all positions.
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A few years back there was a "Spartan Pride" on the M Live board that really knew what he was talking about. The latest version doesn't know jack.
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10-26-2007, 09:38 PM
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A few years back there was a "Spartan Pride" on the M Live board that really knew what he was talking about. The latest version doesn't know jack.
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agreed.
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10-26-2007, 09:42 PM
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I think this is BS, I recall maybe three commits during his tender that I thought would never contribute, saying 5 per class is just silly.
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I didn't literatly mean 5 per class. But if we recruited 20-25 players per class that would help us toward our goal of building winning teams, we wouldn't be having these depth issues right now. I don't think we will be taking players just to take them. Dantonio has said he will only take players to help him build a championship. Not because it could get someones friend here or whatnot.
That is all I'm saying. I would like to see how you feel differently.
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What in the hell are you talking about?
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10-26-2007, 10:14 PM
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I didn't literatly mean 5 per class. But if we recruited 20-25 players per class that would help us toward our goal of building winning teams, we wouldn't be having these depth issues right now. I don't think we will be taking players just to take them. Dantonio has said he will only take players to help him build a championship. Not because it could get someones friend here or whatnot.
That is all I'm saying. I would like to see how you feel differently.
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Our lack of depth has more to do with attrition and JLS not signing evenly distributed classes. We brough in way to many skill players and not enough players on D. If thats what you mean then I agree. If your standing by what you said, that he was filling multiple ships a year with players he knew and we knew would never contribute just to fill space then no I do not agree.
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10-26-2007, 11:39 PM
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Our lack of depth has more to do with attrition and JLS not signing evenly distributed classes. We brough in way to many skill players and not enough players on D. If thats what you mean then I agree. If your standing by what you said, that he was filling multiple ships a year with players he knew and we knew would never contribute just to fill space then no I do not agree.
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What! you mean signing five 5'8" receivers for every one lineman is a bad idea . In all seriousness John L did sign some good players (Ringer,caulcrick,gyetvai,romart,st dic,baldwin,gordon etc) but it was the way he prioritized our needs.
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10-26-2007, 11:43 PM
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What! you mean signing five 5'8" receivers for every one lineman is a bad idea . In all seriousness John L did sign some good players (Ringer,caulcrick,gyetvai,romart,st dic,baldwin,gordon etc) but it was the way he prioritized our needs. |
To bad Baldwin, St Dic and Caulcrick were not used properly. Hell, St Dic and Thomas were hardly ever used
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10-27-2007, 12:28 AM
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What! you mean signing five 5'8" receivers for every one lineman is a bad idea . In all seriousness John L did sign some good players (Ringer,caulcrick,gyetvai,romart,st dic,baldwin,gordon etc) but it was the way he prioritized our needs. |
Isn't that what I just said?
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10-27-2007, 04:45 AM
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Isn't that what I just said?
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yes, I was reinforcing your point, your welcome
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10-27-2007, 04:49 AM
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To bad Baldwin, St Dic and Caulcrick were not used properly. Hell, St Dic and Thomas were hardly ever used
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I agree
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10-27-2007, 10:59 AM
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Something I find interesting and refreshing. Check out where all of MSU's commits are from. Only Michigan and Ohio so far. Great way to build a program if you ask me
| Trenton Robinson | DB |  | 5-10 | 171 | 4.4 | 5.4 | | Bay City, MI | | Caulton Ray | RB | | 5-9 | 185 | 4.47 | 5.5 |  | Birmingham, MI | | Charles Burrell | DB | | 6-0 | 204 | 4.6 | 5.7 | | Detroit, MI | | Fred Smith | WR | | 6-2 | 207 | 4.4 | 5.9 | | Detroit, MI | | Ethan Ruhland | OL | | 6-4 | 262 | 5.2 | 5.7 | | Lake Orion, MI | | Anthony Woods | OL | | 6-4 | 313 | 5 | 5.5 | | Melvindale, MI | | Tyler Hoover | DE | | 6-7 | 265 | 4.57 | 5.7 | | Novi, MI | | John Deyo | OL | | 6-6 | 270 | 5.1 | 5.4 | | Richland, MI | | Chris McDonald | DE | | 6-5 | 260 | 4.65 | 5.3 | | Sterling Heights, MI | | Johnny Adams | DB | | 5-11 | 157 | 4.4 | 5.6 | | Akron, OH | | Jerel Worthy | DT | | 6-2 | 288 | 4.9 | 5.6 | | Huber Heights, OH | | Drew Stevens | LB | | 6-4 | 203 | 4.53 | 5.2 | | Lewis Center, OH | | Jamiihr Williams | LB | | 6-2 | 224 | 4.65 | 5.4 | | Trotwood, OH |
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Originally Posted by spartaspartan
tuff Natron -- Leonardo DiCaprio – Leo is the man, period
Natron the Spartan – Serpentor (GI Joe) – supremely engineered and should replace Cobra Commander (Fletch)
Natron the Spartan – John Hancock – thinker, leader, and the founding father of another signature
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10-27-2007, 11:03 AM
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Nice observation, Natron. I think that's pretty solid as well. Of course, I wouldn't be disappointed with talent from other areas either. It's so nice not to have a clown as our coach finally.
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10-27-2007, 11:06 AM
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Nice observation, Natron. I think that's pretty solid as well. Of course, I wouldn't be disappointed with talent from other areas either. It's so nice not to have a clown as our coach finally. |
Agreed. In time, they'll start branching out, Florida and Texas for instance, but for the time being there are so many really good players in Michigan and Ohio that we can really build a good team by staying local. Once we're competing for championships, we'll get the big boys in the south, but the time being I like this tactic a lot.
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Originally Posted by spartaspartan
tuff Natron -- Leonardo DiCaprio – Leo is the man, period
Natron the Spartan – Serpentor (GI Joe) – supremely engineered and should replace Cobra Commander (Fletch)
Natron the Spartan – John Hancock – thinker, leader, and the founding father of another signature
Natron the Spartan – Elephant – Powerful dominant figure on the board
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