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11-26-2007, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JBSpartan4life
kendal davis is not an awful football player. he's certainly not very good in man to man coverage but he's not awful.
Kaleb played a lot more snaps in a different D. Fein definitely could've improved our lb'er depth.
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Zero interceptions, gets burned all the time.
But yeah, hes real good....
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11-26-2007, 10:24 PM
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Thanks for the memory. Dan Bass was a ferocious LB. If he got you in his sights you were going down end of discussion. Played Canadian ball I believe after graduation.
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The 70's were a different era. Would Howard "Hop-along" Cassidy contend today for the heisman?
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11-26-2007, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Punisher99
Zero interceptions, gets burned all the time.
But yeah, hes real good.... 
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Comp and Dorsey said that this guy would be our best cover CB ever. Therefore KDC is really good.
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11-26-2007, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommyboy
The 70's were a different era. Would Howard "Hop-along" Cassidy contend today for the heisman?
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11-26-2007, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommyboy
The 70's were a different era. Would Howard "Hop-along" Cassidy contend today for the heisman?
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1955 - 21st Award
Howard Cassady
Ohio State Back
"Hop along" was one of Ohio State's best ever, scoring 37 touchdowns in 36 games for 222 points. He gained 2,466 yards rushing for an average of 5.6 per try. A player's player, his 964 yards with a total of 15 TDs was his greatest ever. Overlooked were his sparkling defensive plays; he never had a pass completed over him in four years of Big Ten competition. He held the Buckeyes' yardage-gained record for many years. He was voted All-American during the '54 and '55 seasons. Cassady also played baseball for Ohio State for four years. In 1955, the Associated Press also named Cassady “Athlete of the Year”. He played 8 years with the Detroit Lions, one year with the Philadelphia Eagles, and one year with the Cleveland Browns, and then formed his own company, which manufactured concrete pipe. That company was sold in 1968 when he moved into selling steel with Hop along Cassady Associates. Howard later worked for American Shipbuilding in Tampa and is currently a scout and coach for the New York Yankees. He and his wife Barbara reside in Tampa, FL. They have three children and four grandchildren.
Howard was elected to the National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame in 1979.
The Voting
Place Name School Class Position Points
1 Howard Cassidy Ohio State Sr. HB 2,219
2 Jim Swink Texas Christian Jr. HB 742
3 George Welsh Navy Sr. QB 383
4 Earl Morrall Michigan State Sr. QB 323
5 Paul Hornung Notre Dame Jr. QB 321
6 Bob Pellegrini Maryland Sr. C-NG 294
7 Ron Beagle Navy Sr. E 212
8 Ron Kramer Michigan Jr. E 192
9 Bo Bolinger Oklahoma Sr. G 148
10 Calvin Jones Iowa Sr. G 138
Howard "Hopalong" Cassady was the first Heisman winner to exceed 2,000 total points and his 1,477-point edge over Jim Swink of TCU was the biggest victory margin to that time. Swink won the Southwest but Cassady won all the other regions, compiling a 594-128 edge in first place votes in voting by 1,324 members of the media.
Heisman.com - Heisman Trophy
Factor in the variables like todays emphasis on training and physical conditioning, artificial turf, platooning, no full game 2 way players, equipment improvements, medical attention and advancements, etc.
Who's to say he wouldn't.
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11-27-2007, 02:00 PM
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BJ Machen
Good-Bye Chan Gailey...hello BJ Machen *** LB from OH
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11-27-2007, 02:02 PM
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Good-Bye Chan Gailey...hello BJ Machen *** LB from OH
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11-27-2007, 03:03 PM
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Good-Bye Chan Gailey...hello BJ Machen *** LB from OH
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Before verbaling to GT he didn't have MSU in his top 5. Why would he end up at state now?
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11-27-2007, 04:11 PM
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Below is the profile of a two star that Dantonio recruited to Cinci. He red shirted his first year and is now on the 1st team rivals all freshmen team. For those of you that care about stars.
Marcus Barnett
Marcus BARNETT BIO NOTES
Barnett was named second team all-WCAC receiver.
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11-27-2007, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by izzo75
Below is the profile of a two star that Dantonio recruited to Cinci. He red shirted his first year and is now on the 1st team rivals all freshmen team. For those of you that care about stars.
Marcus Barnett
Marcus BARNETT BIO NOTES
Barnett was named second team all-WCAC receiver.
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just great coaching by God.
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11-27-2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Punisher99
Zero interceptions, gets burned all the time.
But yeah, hes real good.... 
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where did I say he was real good? I just said he wasn't awful. nice reading comprehension skills. Then again how many tackles have you made in a division 1 college football game?
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11-28-2007, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JBSpartan4life
where did I say he was real good? I just said he wasn't awful. nice reading comprehension skills. Then again how many tackles have you made in a division 1 college football game?
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So are we not allowed to have an opinion about a player unless we are better than him, or do we only have to have more tackles than he does.
FTR i will be upset will all of our db's until they learn to look for the ball and not just run through the receiver or just let the ball go right over their head and have no idea.
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11-28-2007, 10:43 AM
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anyone have subscription to scout? who is Glen Winston's leader? Where do we stand? What's the news on Trawick? You can PM me the articles if you want!
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11-28-2007, 10:47 AM
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anyone have subscription to scout? who is Glen Winston's leader? Where do we stand? What's the news on Trawick? You can PM me the articles if you want! 
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We are winstons leader. No one has offered but we will most likely on his official visit.
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11-28-2007, 10:54 AM
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We are winstons leader. No one has offered but we will most likely on his official visit.
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thanks  anyone know what Trawick said? Are we his leader as well?
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11-28-2007, 11:13 AM
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It looks as if Harmani Stevens is going to visit december 7-9.
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And we might get a "follow up" if we manage to beat out Big Ten powerhouse Indiana for the Insight Bowl. Because of the location of the bowl, Stevens said that he would attend that game if MSU ends up there, that would be big  .
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11-28-2007, 11:22 AM
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It will be an interesting couple of weeks. We could come close to filling up the class and have 3-4 spots left open to offer to kids who decommit from other schools. I really am impressed with how Dantonio runs his recruiting. He seems to have a very clear plan on how to evaluate kids, when to offer, and how to do the visits.
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11-28-2007, 11:30 AM
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By my count we only have 5 spots left open for this recruiting class. We need to get 2 LB's and 2 OL in their. Hopefully the next few commits met one of those 2 needs.
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11-28-2007, 11:33 AM
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By my count we only have 5 spots left open for this recruiting class. We need to get 2 LB's and 2 OL in their. Hopefully the next few commits met one of those 2 needs.
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 said he was going for 25 in this class. We have 15 commits. Doesn't that = 10 more???
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11-28-2007, 11:42 AM
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 said he was going for 25 in this class. We have 15 commits. Doesn't that = 10 more???
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Not sure when he said 25, but counting scholarship players we are returning next season I counted 65, leaving 20 spots for this class. We have 15 meaning we have 5 left to give. I am no expert, but if the limit is 85 I don't see how I can be wrong, atleast that wrong (off by 5).
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11-28-2007, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by m_sell31
Not sure when he said 25, but counting scholarship players we are returning next season I counted 65, leaving 20 spots for this class. We have 15 meaning we have 5 left to give. I am no expert, but if the limit is 85 I don't see how I can be wrong, atleast that wrong (off by 5).
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Well Dantonio said 25, and you say 20, who to believe???? He did say this too, was in a Spartanmag article....
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11-28-2007, 11:46 AM
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Well Dantonio said 25, and you say 20, who to believe???? He did say this too, was in a Spartanmag article....
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I think I heard him say 25 as well...
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11-28-2007, 11:46 AM
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Well Dantonio said 25, and you say 20, who to believe???? He did say this too, was in a Spartanmag article....
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Obviously believe  , just posting what I counted. do 5th year seniors lose their scholarships for their 5th year and no longer count? Otherwise I just don't get it? I counted players I knew to be on scholarship and got aprox. 65.
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11-28-2007, 11:47 AM
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I think I heard him say 25 as well...
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Great news if true! I wish someone could break down our roster and explain to me where those extra 5 are comming from.
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11-28-2007, 11:48 AM
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Obviously believe  , just posting what I counted. do 5th year seniors lose their scholarships for their 5th year and no longer count? Otherwise I just don't get it? I counted players I knew to be on scholarship and got aprox. 65.
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Maybe he is figuring Thomas and Ringer are leaving 
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