tOfficial 2008 Football Recruiting Thread

AASpartan · 01-07-2008, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gods03

We have roughly 9 -11 spots left with Hoover/Adams coming in early, and landing Ingram could give us some much needed momentum in the recruiting process to help us fill those holes. He is a huge recruit in terms of momentum. I still have faith in Enos, I think he will get him here. I just hope it's sooner rather than signing day. EIther way, I'll take him.

Ingram will likely decide soon after his Alabama visit. Hoover and Adams coming in early doesn't free up any more scholarships. Even with Devin leaving it's still going to be tight trying to get 9 more in.

msuferd · 01-07-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozymandias

He said that Iowa was recruiting the hardest because the entire staff sent him 15 letters a day this past month...BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A ****ING BOWL GAME TO PREPARE FOR. Ingram even admitted that that was the reason.

Did you honestly expect him to commit before he took all his visits? Do you blame Dantonio for the kid and his family deciding to take all their visits and THEN deciding?

Didn't say that. But I'd expect a legacy recruit to name us as the slight leader at this point, not Iowa. I don't give a damn about playing time, these are the kids that they need to sign. "Oh gosh, Iowa has more playing time available, we've got not shot, better just let him go. "

Christ, I didn't say to string Dantonio up. I just said it was disappointing that he said Iowa was recruiting him the hardest, and -here's a shocker - they're his slight leader. No, that doesn't mean the world is coming to end, and I still expect he'll be a Spartan in the end. I'd just like to hear that MSU is the leader, from a legacy recruit, when a 1-11 Minnesota team is outrecruiting us at the moment.

Ozymandias · 01-07-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by msuferd

Didn't say that. But I'd expect a legacy recruit to name us as the slight leader at this point, not Iowa. I don't give a damn about playing time, these are the kids that they need to sign. "Oh gosh, Iowa has more playing time available, we've got not shot, better just let him go. "

Christ, I didn't say to string Dantonio up. I just said it was disappointing that he said Iowa was recruiting him the hardest, and -here's a shocker - they're his slight leader. No, that doesn't mean the world is coming to end, and I still expect he'll be a Spartan in the end. I'd just like to hear that MSU is the leader, from a legacy recruit, when a 1-11 Minnesota team is outrecruiting us at the moment.

You know who else was out-recruiting MSU earlier in the year and everyone started getting pissed about? Nebraska.

You concern yourself too much with the decisions and actions of HS kids that aren't your own.

PortlandSpartan · 01-07-2008, 12:55 AM

Adams is coming in early? If so, AWESOME.

GoGreen122093 · 01-07-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by clocker

is not impressing me in this all star game

You made that conclusion on 3 carries?

You should be working for an NFL team scouting the combines. He touched the ball 3 times and ended up with the longest run in the game. Your hatred blinds you

clocker · 01-07-2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GoGreen122093

You made that conclusion on 3 carries?

You should be working for an NFL team scouting the combines. He touched the ball 3 times and ended up with the longest run in the game. Your hatred blinds you

no hatred at all - he just didnt impress me nor did he impress me in the game earlier in the year on espn - with all the hype that the kid has recieved "the white Reggie Bush" i fully expected the kid to perform much better which would result in getting more then 3 carries in the game, am i wrong to assume that??? (if i remember the real reggie bush had 10 plus carries for like 75 yards)

DantonIzzo · 01-07-2008, 02:34 AM

I've seen the kids Iowa has coming back at RB (i.e., no one), and the kids they're bringing in (no one particularly impressive), and trust me when I say Ingram could start from day one.

When Pugh left the team, I had a feeling Ingram immediately had a new leader and that Scout article sadly confirms it. Hope Enos seals the deal down the stretch, though.

DantonIzzo · 01-07-2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

The staff has brought him in numerous times. He had a great official visit. He was invited to come to and showed up to a bowl practice instead of taking an official visit elsewhere. He loves MSU and the staff. The fact that Iowa can offer him something that we can't is the only reason that he hasn't already committed to us. I really don't know how anyone can look at it as a knock on the staff or the job they've done with him.

As always, AA is the voice of reason.

The timing might just not be right with Ingram. It's happened before and it'll happen again. Too bad he isn't a TE, DB or LB. I'm still hoping for the best out of this one, but that's just the way it goes sometimes.

DantonIzzo · 01-07-2008, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozymandias

He said that Iowa was recruiting the hardest because the entire staff sent him 15 letters a day this past month...BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A ****ING BOWL GAME TO PREPARE FOR. Ingram even admitted that that was the reason.

Did you honestly expect him to commit before he took all his visits? Do you blame Dantonio for the kid and his family deciding to take all their visits and THEN deciding?

Bingo, Ozy. Bingo.

ATL SPARTAN · 01-07-2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by '86

' Want no part of this scrap but that's damned funny.

Sparty2QP · 01-07-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozymandias

You concern yourself too much with the decisions and actions of HS kids that aren't your own.

Ozy, Let me correct you here. He concerns himself WAY too much with the comments high school kids, who are not his own, make about a decision they are going to make in a month.

(In my best Allen Iverson)....NOT decisions, not the school that they play for, but COMMENTS!! We talkin bout COMMENTS!! Not the decision, not the decision..... COMMENTS!

Sparty2QP · 01-07-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

I've seen the kids Iowa has coming back at RB (i.e., no one), and the kids they're bringing in (no one particularly impressive), and trust me when I say Ingram could start from day one.

When Pugh left the team, I had a feeling Ingram immediately had a new leader and that Scout article sadly confirms it. Hope Enos seals the deal down the stretch, though.

They picked up a pretty decent RB out of Florida last week. Can't remember his name.

AASpartan · 01-07-2008, 10:47 AM

Out of the Stevens sweepstakes. He's down to Oregon, Arizona State, and BYU.

AASpartan · 01-07-2008, 10:49 AM

Plus a different comment from Ingram in an update from a Badger reporter:

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However, Ingram says his recruitment is still an open race heading into his final visit.

"Everybody is still is even. I don't really have a favorite right now," he said. "I'm looking for something to separate them."

mitch cumstein · 01-07-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

Plus a different comment from Ingram in an update from a Badger reporter:

the knee jerk reactions to these ingram comments over on the bunker are almost as bad as on this board

msusnee · 01-07-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

Out of the Stevens sweepstakes. He's down to Oregon, Arizona State, and BYU.

Damn, he would have been a big pickup

AASpartan · 01-07-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mitch cumstein

the knee jerk reactions to these ingram comments over on the bunker are almost as bad as on this board

Yeah. It's best to ignore all of them.

Martin Spartan · 01-07-2008, 11:07 AM

This might not be the best place for this but it does involve how many scholarships we have to give:

Will TJ Williams be back next season? The who starts along side Dell next season thread really made me realize that alot of people are not expecting him back. Is this based on something more than him currently being in court and the suspension filled 07'?

Whast is the status of the court case? when is the trial?

SpartyUp · 01-07-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by m_sell31

This might not be the best place for this but it does involve how many scholarships we have to give:

Will TJ Williams be back next season? The who starts along side Dell next season thread really made me realize that alot of people are not expecting him back. Is this based on something more than him currently being in court and the suspension filled 07'?

Whast is the status of the court case? when is the trial?

he needs to be sent packing...

Martin Spartan · 01-07-2008, 11:19 AM

I like Big M just fine but here is an update on who posts in the official MSU recruiting thread...

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 4,559

User Name Posts
Big M 217

Spartan Pride 202
nat006 173
AASpartan 150
fw190bvi 148
Golfnut 127
Ozymandias 109
OPSpartan 108
spartaspartan 100

SpartanGA · 01-07-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

Out of the Stevens sweepstakes. He's down to Oregon, Arizona State, and BYU.

Damn...I bet it was the distance.

AASpartan · 01-07-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by smithsonga

Damn...I bet it was the distance.

I really think that he's been looking for a reason NOT to commit to Oregon for months now. He's just trying to check out lots of different schools, but he'll be a Duck.

Scully60 · 01-07-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ToP

So Iowa needs him more than MSU does and needs to make up ground on MSU. Makes sense that they'd be working harder on him, doesn't it?

Agree. Sometimes more is less.

SpartanRocky · 01-07-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

I really think that he's been looking for a reason NOT to commit to Oregon for months now. He's just trying to check out lots of different schools, but he'll be a Duck.

I agree, it wouldn've been nice, but Nitchman is a RS Jr. this year, so we have a bit of time to find another center.

Overall, I'm impressed with the overall quality talent we've brought in, mostly 3* which means that we'll have some quality depth in the coming years. The gamebreakers will come eventually, but I think you win more with developing your mid-level talent and complimenting it with 1 or more "gamebreakers".

It seemed Bobby would get about 1/3 or 1/4 of the class in the 4/5* range and then just fill in the rest with lower quality talent. When a starter would go down, we'd be relatively screwed, especially along the lines.

It seems that we don't have the high ceiling of a Smoker/Rogers/Duckett, but the overall quality of talent seems to be improving, we saw frosh and back-ups (Nitchman, Cironi, Oren Wilson, of course Jones and Gordon) step in and make solid contributions.

Just my 2 cents, but I think we'll be looking good in the coming years.

*Note: Star system used as a general reference point, well aware that it's far from accurate.

DantonIzzo · 01-07-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartanRocky

I agree, it wouldn've been nice, but Nitchman is a RS Jr. this year, so we have a bit of time to find another center.

Overall, I'm impressed with the overall quality talent we've brought in, mostly 3* which means that we'll have some quality depth in the coming years. The gamebreakers will come eventually, but I think you win more with developing your mid-level talent and complimenting it with 1 or more "gamebreakers".

It seemed Bobby would get about 1/3 or 1/4 of the class in the 4/5* range and then just fill in the rest with lower quality talent. When a starter would go down, we'd be relatively screwed, especially along the lines.

It seems that we don't have the high ceiling of a Smoker/Rogers/Duckett, but the overall quality of talent seems to be improving, we saw frosh and back-ups (Nitchman, Cironi, Oren Wilson, of course Jones and Gordon) step in and make solid contributions.

Just my 2 cents, but I think we'll be looking good in the coming years.

*Note: Star system used as a general reference point, well aware that it's far from accurate.

As long as our fanbase doesn't get spoiled by the consistency, I think

will deliver a lot of 7-5/8-4 type seasons with decent bowl games. Sometimes better, but very rarely worse. Kids who never quit and play hard.

I don't expect MSU to ever become a traditional championship contender, but considering our track record,

could really make us more competitive than we've been on a regular basis in a long, long time. That's

in my book, but some unrealistic Spartans may wonder why the trophies and BCS games aren't rolling in on a yearly basis.