tOfficial 2008 Football Recruiting Thread

[Martin Spartan]

Originally Posted by State00

They haven't even gotten to Omar's yet. Patience.

Keep us abreast on the situation!

[Kenny Powers]

Originally Posted by CheerBear

Apparently nobody wants to spook them as they are already committed to other schools. If their names came out it would look bad and they might be too embarrassed to come and just dismiss it as a rumor.

usually the kids are coming in for a reason. what generally happens is that the school that the kid is committed to calls them up and convinces the kid to cancel the trip or possibly lose his spot.

[nicho197]

Originally Posted by Gods03

They are all committed to other schools. Those that know have decided to keep the info private, even from those of us who pay for said information.

Originally Posted by msuferd

Actually, in case like this where it's best for the program, it's a great idea to keep it quiet.

yep you are correct. Earlier in the year a few commits from other schools were going to show up at MSU for unofficials. The word got out and the players ended up not going. The unnamed players are anywhere from 1 to 5. People speculate they may include commits from UM, ND, UCLA, and one or two others from Cali. We will know this weekend or next week who ended up showing up.

[Gurkha Legend]

How did Notre Dame get 2 ***** and 15 **** commits?!

[Gods03]

Originally Posted by CheerBear

How did Notre Dame get 2 ***** and 15 **** commits?!

[Gods03]

Originally Posted by nicho197

yep you are correct. Earlier in the year a few commits from other schools were going to show up at MSU for unofficials. The word got out and the players ended up not going. The unnamed players are anywhere from 1 to 5. People speculate they may include commits from UM, ND, UCLA, and one or two others from Cali. We will know this weekend or next week who ended up showing up.

Hey, for what it's worth, I don't mind paying for non-information if it means we get a couple of these kids...

[Gurkha Legend]

Originally Posted by Gods03

[barberb6]

Originally Posted by Plate of Shrimp

Not for a while.

that's pretty hilarious

[spartan80]

Originally Posted by m_sell31

Any recruits on campus yet? Any early orals?

The recruits will probably get orals all weekend, the big question is have any committed?

[49ers169]

Those that know who the visitors are, are advising Matt and Comp not to release the names.

That would be a smart move as the point was even if they get on campus, the schools that they are committed to may give them an earful and it may not pan out.

However if all of this is done in secret, it could make MD look like a shady character in some eyes.

My opinion is that they should release the names. Honestly if the kids are blown away by their visit they will commit regardless if another coach is in their ear.

Dorsey just posted that he can confirm 1 of the magentas made it but did not release a name. Also stated he is unsure if all 5 will make the trip.

[Green n Mean]

Originally Posted by mandarich

Interesting article on LB Eteyen Edet

Sideline Report This Week in Prince George's High School Football - washingtonpost.com

Pic of Edet in action

- washingtonpost.com

Have Edet watch some film of Brynden Trawick. Together these two would be an absolute holly terror on defense. I think Trawick may eventually be as good a Spartan as anyone who's put the uniform on. I think he'll be called The Terminator before he leaves. Yea I know it's not original but it fits...watch his film.

[ToP]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

Those that know who the visitors are, are advising Matt and Comp not to release the names.

That would be a smart move as the point was even if they get on campus, the schools that they are committed to may give them an earful and it may not pan out.

However if all of this is done in secret, it could make MD look like a shady character in some eyes.

My opinion is that they should release the names. Honestly if the kids are blown away by their visit they will commit regardless if another coach is in their ear.

Dorsey just posted that he can confirm 1 of the magentas made it but did not release a name. Also stated he is unsure if all 5 will make the trip.

Who should release the names? I thought the coaches couldn't talk about the recruits and, if they can't release names, it won't reflect badly on them at all.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

Originally Posted by ToP

Who should release the names? I thought the coaches couldn't talk about the recruits and, if they can't release names, it won't reflect badly on them at all.

exactly. Who cares if the insiders seem secretive and shady. It's better they not say anything. Is it really that big of a deal that you don't know? Are people going to have trouble sleeping over this? Just be patient

[JBSpartan4life]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

Those that know who the visitors are, are advising Matt and Comp not to release the names.

That would be a smart move as the point was even if they get on campus, the schools that they are committed to may give them an earful and it may not pan out.

However if all of this is done in secret, it could make MD look like a shady character in some eyes.

My opinion is that they should release the names. Honestly if the kids are blown away by their visit they will commit regardless if another coach is in their ear.

Dorsey just posted that he can confirm 1 of the magentas made it but did not release a name. Also stated he is unsure if all 5 will make the trip.

How could it make look like a shady character?

It's a good idea to keep the names quit. We don’t need any more things working against us, plus it's a courtesy to the kids and their families. We’ll all know eventually I’m sure.

[Martin Spartan]

Originally Posted by spartan80

The recruits will probably get orals all weekend, the big question is have any committed?

If that was the case they sure would have have gotten a commit from me when i was 18.

My prediction is that we get the first commit Monday around 4pm.

[49ers169]

Originally Posted by JBSpartan4life

How could it make look like a shady character?

It's a good idea to keep the names quit. We don’t need any more things working against us, plus it's a courtesy to the kids and their families. We’ll all know eventually I’m sure.

I have no inside information on these recruits but I know a lot on this board have taken cheap shots at Meyer and Weis for their recruiting tactics.

I assume that they are committed prospects and if that is the case I will ask you a hypothetical question.

Lets say that Rich Rod or Charlie Weis secretly bring up one of our most prized recruits. He keeps it quiet and then lets say for the sake of argument that the prospect decides to switch his commitment. What percentage of this board would go into outrage and call the other coach unethical??? I would figure a large majority would.

I understand the need to keep this secret and I follow the national recruiting scene pretty closely. This move has worked wonders for Urban Meyer in the past. He brings committed prospects down and keeps it on the down low. Sometimes it works and others it doesn't but I know some of our fans have made mention about his recruiting tactics.

I just think we are turning into U of M spinners in my opinion. I remember when Jonas Gray decommitted from Nebraska and it was reported that Dantonio told him that he would not recruit a committed prospect. Now a lot on this board applauded Dantonio and were glad to have someone of such character. I thought it was a bad move as I felt that we should look at kids who are looking around.

But for those that applauded his move then, why are they now pumped about this news?? Its just because it benefits MSU. That seems a lot like flip flopping to me. Look I understand this is part of the recruiting world and I am very glad that we are doing this. If we did not, we wouldn't be able to get in with some of the major prospects near the end of the process. But if some of these magentas come to fruition I wouldn't blame the other fanbases for being angry.

[Gods03]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

I have no inside information on these recruits but I know a lot on this board have taken cheap shots at Meyer and Weis for their recruiting tactics.

I assume that they are committed prospects and if that is the case I will ask you a hypothetical question.

Lets say that Rich Rod or Charlie Weis secretly bring up one of our most prized recruits. He keeps it quiet and then lets say for the sake of argument that the prospect decides to switch his commitment. What percentage of this board would go into outrage and call the other coach unethical??? I would figure a large majority would.

I understand the need to keep this secret and I follow the national recruiting scene pretty closely. This move has worked wonders for Urban Meyer in the past. He brings committed prospects down and keeps it on the down low. Sometimes it works and others it doesn't but I know some of our fans have had made mention about his recruiting tactics.

I just think we are turning into U of M spinner in my opinion. I remember when Jonas Gray decommitted from Nebraska and it was reported that Dantonio told him that he would not recruit a committed prospect. Now a lot on this board applauded Dantonio and were glad to have someone of such character. I thought it was a bad move as I felt that we should look at kids who are looking around.

But for those that applauded his move then, why are they know pumped about this news?? Its just because it benefits MSU. That seems a lot like flip flopping to me. Look I understand this is part of the recruiting world and I am very glad that we are doing this. If we did not, we wouldn't be able to get in with some of the major prospects near the end of the process. But if some of these magentas come to fruition I wouldn't blame the other fanbases for being angry.

Nice post. Agreed, if we want to get all giddy and excited about "Magentas", then we need to be prepared to have the rug pulled out from underneath us at some point in the future as well.

[chitownsparty86]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

I have no inside information on these recruits but I know a lot on this board have taken cheap shots at Meyer and Weis for their recruiting tactics.

I assume that they are committed prospects and if that is the case I will ask you a hypothetical question.

Lets say that Rich Rod or Charlie Weis secretly bring up one of our most prized recruits. He keeps it quiet and then lets say for the sake of argument that the prospect decides to switch his commitment. What percentage of this board would go into outrage and call the other coach unethical??? I would figure a large majority would.

I understand the need to keep this secret and I follow the national recruiting scene pretty closely. This move has worked wonders for Urban Meyer in the past. He brings committed prospects down and keeps it on the down low. Sometimes it works and others it doesn't but I know some of our fans have had made mention about his recruiting tactics.

I just think we are turning into U of M spinner in my opinion. I remember when Jonas Gray decommitted from Nebraska and it was reported that Dantonio told him that he would not recruit a committed prospect. Now a lot on this board applauded Dantonio and were glad to have someone of such character. I thought it was a bad move as I felt that we should look at kids who are looking around.

But for those that applauded his move then, why are they know pumped about this news?? Its just because it benefits MSU. That seems a lot like flip flopping to me. Look I understand this is part of the recruiting world and I am very glad that we are doing this. If we did not, we wouldn't be able to get in with some of the major prospects near the end of the process. But if some of these magentas come to fruition I wouldn't blame the other fanbases for being angry.

Good post

[Plate of Shrimp]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

I have no inside information on these recruits but I know a lot on this board have taken cheap shots at Meyer and Weis for their recruiting tactics.

Not that I disagree with what you said but there is a big difference.

MSU doesn't have every advantage in the world that places like ESPNBC's own ND or Florida. MSU gets crapped on every day. Besides we actually badly need the players...where as Florida or UM or ND just get another third stringer (or Oklahoma as it were *cough* Nichol).

Those guys have Yankees syndrome, while we are far far away catching that.

So let's hold off judging him until we find out who the kids are and where they're from. If the're from a program in flux like UM or WVU then I don't see how you could fault Dantonio or the kids. I don't think anyone was too pissed or had the right to be pissed (*cough* Nichol) after last year when commits decided to go elsewhere.

[49ers169]

Originally Posted by Plate of Shrimp

Not that I disagree with what you said but there is a big difference.

MSU doesn't have every advantage in the world that places like ESPNBC's own ND or Florida. MSU gets crapped on every day. Besides we actually badly need the players...where as Florida or UM or ND just get another third stringer (or Oklahoma as it were *cough* Nichol).

Those guys have Yankees syndrome, while we are far far away catching that.

So let's hold off judging him until we find out who the kids are and where they're from. If the're from a program in flux like UM or WVU then I don't see how you could fault Dantonio or the kids. I don't think anyone was too pissed or had the right to be pissed (*cough* Nichol) after last year when commits decided to go elsewhere.

I don't see a problem with any of it. Don't confuse me and think that I am angry that Dantonio is doing this.

I am more informing people of this stance before we know more. Do these schools have an advantage over us?? Of course they do as they have better program prestige and tradition than we do. Are they supposed to say oh well we will let other programs get to our level?? No they are going all out to get the best players in the nation.

Even if they are commits to other schools that aren't in flux I would have no problem with it. It is recruiting and if the kids want to come, you let them come.

I just don't want to see people get all happy if some of these magentas turn into reds. Then if next year we get the rug pulled from under us, the board turns into a pissing match about how unethical the other coaches are.

[Plate of Shrimp]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

I just don't want to see people get all happy if some of these magentas turn into reds. Then if next year we get the rug pulled from under us, the board turns into a pissing match about how unethical the other coaches are.

I think like most things, it should be considered on a case by case basis.

[Venomous Green Duck]

Originally Posted by spartan80

The recruits will probably get orals all weekend, the big question is have any committed?

You gotta give something to get something

[Llyod Christmas]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

I have no inside information on these recruits but I know a lot on this board have taken cheap shots at Meyer and Weis for their recruiting tactics.

I assume that they are committed prospects and if that is the case I will ask you a hypothetical question.

Lets say that Rich Rod or Charlie Weis secretly bring up one of our most prized recruits. He keeps it quiet and then lets say for the sake of argument that the prospect decides to switch his commitment. What percentage of this board would go into outrage and call the other coach unethical??? I would figure a large majority would.

I understand the need to keep this secret and I follow the national recruiting scene pretty closely. This move has worked wonders for Urban Meyer in the past. He brings committed prospects down and keeps it on the down low. Sometimes it works and others it doesn't but I know some of our fans have made mention about his recruiting tactics.

I just think we are turning into U of M spinners in my opinion. I remember when Jonas Gray decommitted from Nebraska and it was reported that Dantonio told him that he would not recruit a committed prospect. Now a lot on this board applauded Dantonio and were glad to have someone of such character. I thought it was a bad move as I felt that we should look at kids who are looking around.

But for those that applauded his move then, why are they now pumped about this news?? Its just because it benefits MSU. That seems a lot like flip flopping to me. Look I understand this is part of the recruiting world and I am very glad that we are doing this. If we did not, we wouldn't be able to get in with some of the major prospects near the end of the process. But if some of these magentas come to fruition I wouldn't blame the other fanbases for being angry.

exactly, case in point is Keith Nichol and Oklahoma

[Ari Gold]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

I don't see a problem with any of it. Don't confuse me and think that I am angry that Dantonio is doing this.

I am more informing people of this stance before we know more. Do these schools have an advantage over us?? Of course they do as they have better program prestige and tradition than we do. Are they supposed to say oh well we will let other programs get to our level?? No they are going all out to get the best players in the nation.

Even if they are commits to other schools that aren't in flux I would have no problem with it. It is recruiting and if the kids want to come, you let them come.

I just don't want to see people get all happy if some of these magentas turn into reds. Then if next year we get the rug pulled from under us, the board turns into a pissing match about how unethical the other coaches are.

fanbases react emotionally when good and bad things happen to their teams. Its not going to stop. If something good happens we will be happy, if something bad happens we will be pissed. Good luck trying to stop it.

[Ari Gold]

Originally Posted by Green n Mean

Have Edet watch some film of Brynden Trawick. Together these two would be an absolute holly terror on defense. I think Trawick may eventually be as good a Spartan as anyone who's put the uniform on. I think he'll be called The Terminator before he leaves. Yea I know it's not original but it fits...watch his film.

Trawick is one of the hardest hitters I've ever seen in HS. That guy is going to be a fan favorite from day one.