tOfficial 2008 Football Recruiting Thread

[spartan80]

Originally Posted by SCOTT'S BLOATED LIVER

Agree on the depth issue. Unfortunately, we are missing on some kids at LB. Thats the only real concern I have at the moment. We desperately need to start landing some playmakers at the skill positions to get us over the hump. We may not do it this year but string together a couple of winning seasons and things will turn around...

Based on what happened with Jones this season, I don't understand what LB recruits are thinking. Unless MSU has some silents at LB, it doesn't make sense that kids wouldn't be thinking, "Coach Tressell make me next year's Greg Jones.

[TreadHead]

I would like to see more LB prospects come our way like you guys all do, but even if we don't land any more great prospects, while VERY undesirable, it would NOT be apocalyptic.

No one has mentioned Misch and Rouse. I'm not saying they're world beaters, but I think they were at least serviceable this year, Misch until he got the injury at the end of the year.

But also consider, with Trevor Anderson entering the fray (need I remind you...All Big East DE two seasons ago), and some young undeveloped guys on DL (Wilson, Jordan, Jeremiah, Graham) we could always move Brandon Long back to LB. Someone up earlier suggested moving Jeanrette to LB, which is also a possiblity. Personally, based on his size and what I DID see of him, I viewed him as more suited for LB this year anyway, but got the idea that Narduzzi put in the secondary because that was our biggest area of need. I don't know; just speculation on my part. Bringing in Burrell, Trawick, and Adams (assuming they all hold to sign LOIs) beefs up the defensive backfield, so I could easily see Jeanrette playing some LB.

Don't get me wrong, we do need some depth at the spot, whether it be from Perry, J. Smith, Lucas, Edet, Balogun, etc. But if we don't get our target # of LB prospects, I don't think it will be the end of the world. Not necessarily saying you guys are all painting it that way, but it's the feeling I kind of get from some posts on here. Also consider how guys like Saint-Dic, Baldwin, Jones, Gordon, Wilson, and even some of the DBs (KDC, Wiley, Key) improved this year under Narduzzi's tutelage for less than a full year. I hope I'm not overly touting Narduzzi's ability here, but to me, as important as recruting is, player development can always trump it if you're good enough at it.

[Frank Ricard]

Originally Posted by TreadHead

I would like to see more LB prospects come our way like you guys all do, but even if we don't land any more great prospects, while VERY undesirable, it would NOT be apocalyptic.

No one has mentioned Misch and Rouse. I'm not saying they're world beaters, but I think they were at least serviceable this year, Misch until he got the injury at the end of the year.

But also consider, with Trevor Anderson entering the fray (need I remind you...All Big East DE two seasons ago), and some young undeveloped guys on DL (Wilson, Jordan, Jeremiah, Graham) we could always move Brandon Long back to LB. Someone up earlier suggested moving Jeanrette to LB, which is also a possiblity. Personally, based on his size and what I DID see of him, I viewed him as more suited for LB this year anyway, but got the idea that Narduzzi put in the secondary because that was our biggest area of need. I don't know; just speculation on my part. Bringing in Burrell, Trawick, and Adams (assuming they all hold to sign LOIs) beefs up the defensive backfield, so I could easily see Jeanrette playing some LB.

Don't get me wrong, we do need some depth at the spot, whether it be from Perry, J. Smith, Lucas, Edet, Balogun, etc. But if we don't get our target # of LB prospects, I don't think it will be the end of the world. Not necessarily saying you guys are all painting it that way, but it's the feeling I kind of get from some posts on here. Also consider how guys like Saint-Dic, Baldwin, Jones, Gordon, Wilson, and even some of the DBs (KDC, Wiley, Key) improved this year under Narduzzi's tutelage for less than a full year. I hope I'm not overly touting Narduzzi's ability here, but to me, as important as recruting is, player development can always trump it if you're good enough at it.

Sorry, far too rational for your first post. You won't last here long.











Welcome aboard.

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by spartan80

Based on what happened with Jones this season, I don't understand what LB recruits are thinking. Unless MSU has some silents at LB, it doesn't make sense that kids wouldn't be thinking, "Coach Tressell make me next year's Greg Jones.

Exactly.

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by TreadHead

I would like to see more LB prospects come our way like you guys all do, but even if we don't land any more great prospects, while VERY undesirable, it would NOT be apocalyptic.

No one has mentioned Misch and Rouse. I'm not saying they're world beaters, but I think they were at least serviceable this year, Misch until he got the injury at the end of the year.

But also consider, with Trevor Anderson entering the fray (need I remind you...All Big East DE two seasons ago), and some young undeveloped guys on DL (Wilson, Jordan, Jeremiah, Graham) we could always move Brandon Long back to LB. Someone up earlier suggested moving Jeanrette to LB, which is also a possiblity. Personally, based on his size and what I DID see of him, I viewed him as more suited for LB this year anyway, but got the idea that Narduzzi put in the secondary because that was our biggest area of need. I don't know; just speculation on my part. Bringing in Burrell, Trawick, and Adams (assuming they all hold to sign LOIs) beefs up the defensive backfield, so I could easily see Jeanrette playing some LB.

Don't get me wrong, we do need some depth at the spot, whether it be from Perry, J. Smith, Lucas, Edet, Balogun, etc. But if we don't get our target # of LB prospects, I don't think it will be the end of the world. Not necessarily saying you guys are all painting it that way, but it's the feeling I kind of get from some posts on here. Also consider how guys like Saint-Dic, Baldwin, Jones, Gordon, Wilson, and even some of the DBs (KDC, Wiley, Key) improved this year under Narduzzi's tutelage for less than a full year. I hope I'm not overly touting Narduzzi's ability here, but to me, as important as recruting is, player development can always trump it if you're good enough at it.

I was very impressed by the improvement of a lot of guys defensively, considering this staff was basically starting from scratch when they arrived.

[Kenny Powers]

for whoever has access to the Fort. They are in a mini meltdown about Pryor.

[Sonny SixKill]

Originally Posted by izzo75

for whoever has access to the Fort. They are in a mini meltdown about Pryor.

about what

[Big Papi]

yeah, hopefully we have some silents. just doesn't make sense. i hope perry sees the great opportunity he has here!

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by izzo75

for whoever has access to the Fort. They are in a mini meltdown about Pryor.

I know I'm saying this at least partially because I hate Michigan, but what makes (or made) them think they had a snowball's chance in hell of getting him in the first place (especially over tOSU, LSU and PSU in his home state?)

[Kenny Powers]

Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

I know I'm saying this at least partially because I hate Michigan, but what makes (or made) them think they had a snowball's chance in hell of getting him in the first place (especially over tOSU, LSU and PSU in his home state?)

I think because Huge said so

Originally Posted by Sonny SixKill

about what

not sure. I don't have access so I don't know. I was bored and thread reading and it seems like they are all in a tizzy over it.

[TreadHead]

Originally Posted by Frank Ricard

Sorry, far too rational for your first post. You won't last here long.











Welcome aboard.

Haha, glad to hear it, because, though I put on a good smoke screen, I am far from rational.

[SpartanGA]

I am sure the mini meltdown is the news Pryor is taking an official to LSU.

I have good feelings that this sudden non interest from Edet (who we didn't know 1 week ago) and Lucas is not all their choice. I just feel from what I have heard that we have good news to follow this 'bad' news.

Here is how I see the class finishing, IMHO:
Perry
Ingram
Smith
Balogun
Bishop
OL (sanderson?)
1 of the Judes

Some surprises. Maybe Koger?

I think that class would shutup the doubters on here

[Kenny Powers]

Originally Posted by smithsonga

I am sure the mini meltdown is the news Pryor is taking an official to LSU.

I have good feelings that this sudden non interest from Edet (who we didn't know 1 week ago) and Lucas is not all their choice. I just feel from what I have heard that we have good news to follow this 'bad' news.

Here is how I see the class finishing, IMHO:
Perry
Ingram
Smith
Balogun
Bishop
OL (sanderson?)
1 of the Judes

Some surprises. Maybe Koger?

I think that class would shutup the doubters on here

I guess its that one of the UofM players told someone that Pryor is UofM bound and is playing UofM.

I don't see Sanderson. Granted FSU is getting short but I think its going to be tough to get him to come north.

Give me Ingram Balogun and Perry and I will be ecstatic.

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by smithsonga

I am sure the mini meltdown is the news Pryor is taking an official to LSU.

I have good feelings that this sudden non interest from Edet (who we didn't know 1 week ago) and Lucas is not all their choice. I just feel from what I have heard that we have good news to follow this 'bad' news.

Here is how I see the class finishing, IMHO:
Perry
Ingram
Smith
Balogun
Bishop
OL (sanderson?)
1 of the Judes

Some surprises. Maybe Koger?

I think that class would shutup the doubters on here

That's a Top-25 class for sure.

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by izzo75

Give me Ingram Balogun and Perry and I will be ecstatic.

And Smith.

[Natron the Spartan]

Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

I know I'm saying this at least partially because I hate Michigan, but what makes (or made) them think they had a snowball's chance in hell of getting him in the first place (especially over tOSU, LSU and PSU in his home state?)

B/c the Freep/News told them so.

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

Nice recruit bashing.

You're right, sorry. I meant it more as a slam toward hoyer. He really hurt the program with that crap-fest in Orlando. I'm not going to stop being pissed at him until September. If we beat Cal, I'll forgive him.

[Ozymandias]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

You're right, sorry. I meant it more as a slam toward hoyer. He really hurt the program with that crap-fest in Orlando. I'm not going to stop being pissed at him until September. If we beat Cal, I'll forgive him.

I think his good season overall outweighed his bad bowl game. If a recruit watches the bowl game and says "I don't wanna go there because the QB threw 4 INTs", then I don't want that recruit.

[green night]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

You're right, sorry. I meant it more as a slam toward hoyer. He really hurt the program with that crap-fest in Orlando. I'm not going to stop being pissed at him until September. If we beat Cal, I'll forgive him.

He had a pretty good year. Better than expected. Sure he played like crap that game but he had a big piece in getting us there.

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by SpartanRocky

No joke, hopefully the new coach thing dissuades him.

BTW, for all you star nuts out there. . .this is the most 3-stars (11) we've had in a class since before 2002 (last year in the rivals database). For everyone clamoring for more depth, it's on the way. A team of well-coached 3-stars with a few 4 and 5 star playmakers is a damn good team (WVA, BC, Kansas, Mizzou, South Florida, Wake Forest, Wisky are all examples of teams like this)

I for one, am excited about the depth already in this class.

The thing that has hurt this program is not that we haven't had enough 4-stars, it's the attrition we've suffered. We need kids who pass their classes and don't run afoul of those bothersome Michigan felony statutes. If we need a team of all 2 and 3-stars to ensure our players aren't mugging their fellow students, that's just fine with me. Character counts. Don't forget, a lot of the kids we've lost to these problems were highly-regarded recruits, talent-wise. The more successful schools get the kids with talent AND character, we've often gotten stuck with the ones with talent only. It hasn't worked.

[Big M]

Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

I know I'm saying this at least partially because I hate Michigan, but what makes (or made) them think they had a snowball's chance in hell of getting him in the first place (especially over tOSU, LSU and PSU in his home state?)

1- He had UM in his initial top 4. It isn't like this came completely out of nowhere. He dropped UM because of the pro style offense.

2- His cousin is a WR on UM's team

3- He had WVU near the top of his list BECAUSE of RR, period.

4- RR's offense is absolutely perfect for him.

[truspart]

Originally Posted by Big M

1- He had UM in his initial top 4. It isn't like this came completely out of nowhere. He dropped UM because of the pro style offense.

2- His cousin is a WR on UM's team

3- He had WVU near the top of his list BECAUSE of RR, period.

4- RR's offense is absolutely perfect for him.

Yeah, yeah. And so does Chauncey Billups, Terrell Owens, 50 Cent, Michael Irvin......you get the idea.

Lemme guess, 5th removed? They grew up playing in the same conference against one another, so they're "cousins?"

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

I think his good season overall outweighed his bad bowl game. If a recruit watches the bowl game and says "I don't wanna go there because the QB threw 4 INTs", then I don't want that recruit.

I don't think recruits give a damn about what kind of season hoyer had. I think they look at the fact that we're 7-6, not 8-5, and that we lost our bowl game.

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by Big M

4- RR's offense is absolutely perfect for him.

How is it for Threatt?

[Ozymandias]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

I don't think recruits give a damn about what kind of season hoyer had. I think they look at the fact that we're 7-6, not 8-5, and that we lost our bowl game.

One game difference in record isn't enough to change their minds. One game doesn't change the depth chart, doesn't change the experiences on campus, doesn't change the relationship with the coaches.