Someone is posting on the bunker that we have two silent verbals that will come out early next week. I would assume one of them is Tre Bishop, who will find out tomorrow if he qualifies. The other I have no idea on, but am very hopeful that his dad played some ball here awhile back.
not sure how credible that info is...never heard of the poster before. I am not very confident that that is legit info. i am suspect as to where it came from. Could be from sparty pride who makes a lot of stuff up. he also said it sounds legit which makes me wonder even more. sorry for the run on paragraph, but the post also said it is from another site.
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not sure how credible that info is...never heard of the poster before. I am not very confident that that is legit info. i am suspect as to where it came from. Could be from sparty pride who makes a lot of stuff up. he also said it sounds legit which makes me wonder even more. sorry for the run on paragraph, but the post also said it is from another site.
It is from sparty pride...no idea how legitimate. But if true, I would not think that Bishop or Winston count. Maybe Fitz and Koger.
It is from sparty pride...no idea how legitimate. But if true, I would not think that Bishop or Winston count. Maybe Fitz and Koger.
btw, don't get your hopes up too much with this recruiting class. We will get some great guys, but all the ones you listed you hope (or maybe expecting to?) to get, we probably won't get all of them...prolly half. Just a heads up.
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Well, after watching Jacquies Smith's highlight reel...
I can't believe he was doing that against TEXAS talent. I gotta' think that his size as a DE is the only thing that's keeping him from being a four-star prospect because the kid is a beast. And it gives you a great idea of how well he reads the play. For a HS senior, his play recognition looks spectacular.
I would go as far as to say that this reel is more impressive than the one I saw of Perry. Which, of course, was no slouch.
I am not getting my hopes up on Perry. Could be ROJO v.2 all over again. Mark Ingram however is a must get and I expect MSU to get him. This offense is going to need a legit RB after Ringer graduates. I am not sold on Ashton Leggett or Andre Anderson being the #1 guy. Ingram is a #1 guy IMO.
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I am not getting my hopes up on Perry. Could be ROJO v.2 all over again. Mark Ingram however is a must get and I expect MSU to get him. This offense is going to need a legit RB after Ringer graduates. I am not sold on Ashton Leggett or Andre Anderson being the #1 guy. Ingram is a #1 guy IMO.
I agree on Perry, and my heart tells me that maybe I shouldn't be getting my hopes up either. But, honestly, one thing that I think COULD help us, believe it or not...All the Pryor hype. He is RR's #1 priority right now. Perry may be a distant second or third. But, with all due respect to Ingram and Smith, Perry is 's #1 right now.
Despite this, if I had to bet, I would bet on Perry going to UM because that's what my gut tells me.
Aren't there four players in the group below who could make good linebackers in the two-deep? If Pickelman is good, and we've got depth along the line, the coaches will want to get him PT somewhere. Just thinking. It doesn't seem desperate.
Rouse
Decker
Misch
Pickelman
Long
Hawken
Jennrette
Denson
Stevens
Williams
Winston
Trawick
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Aren't there four players in the group below who could make good linebackers in the two-deep? If Pickelman is good, and we've got depth along the line, the coaches will want to get him PT somewhere. Just thinking. It doesn't seem desperate.
Rouse
Decker
Misch
Pickelman
Long
Hawken
Jennrette
Denson
Stevens
Williams
Winston
Trawick
I actually never thought about Hawken playing there, but I wouldn't bet on Trawick being considered for LB, at least from what I've read about him. I'm not sure he's strong enough.
No. I'm not expecting to land him, so if he comes, great. RR definitely needs a QB commit, but overall I'm ecstatic with how things are going- 14 4 stars, in the running for several more, and it looks like worst case scenario is only losing a couple of kids. All I could have asked for after the coaching change.
Unbelievable. How is MSU ever even competitive with U-M? I know we've lost six straight in the series, but three could've easily gone the other way. Considering the talent gap on paper and the fact that our program's been dysfunctional practically every year during that stretch, I don't see how the games are even close.
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Lots of folks that ridicule the idea of moral victories, don't take the same approach with real wins.
Well, after watching Jacquies Smith's highlight reel...
I can't believe he was doing that against TEXAS talent. I gotta' think that his size as a DE is the only thing that's keeping him from being a four-star prospect because the kid is a beast. And it gives you a great idea of how well he reads the play. For a HS senior, his play recognition looks spectacular.
I would go as far as to say that this reel is more impressive than the one I saw of Perry. Which, of course, was no slouch.
I wouldn't go that far, but now you see why some of us have been saying he's a close third in the running for most important recruit left on the board.
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Lots of folks that ridicule the idea of moral victories, don't take the same approach with real wins.
Aren't there four players in the group below who could make good linebackers in the two-deep? If Pickelman is good, and we've got depth along the line, the coaches will want to get him PT somewhere. Just thinking. It doesn't seem desperate.
Rouse
Decker
Misch
Pickelman
Long
Hawken
Jennrette
Denson
Stevens
Williams
Winston
Trawick
It isn't. That's just the chicken littles talking.
Our LBs won't be great (other than Jones), but they aren't necessarily a concern either IMHO.
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Lots of folks that ridicule the idea of moral victories, don't take the same approach with real wins.
As a new member of this board, I don’t want to step on any toes, but we need to keep things in perspective. The star rating system isn’t everything…if anything at all. Here’s a comparison of Cincy and Notre Dame using the star system for the past 4 recruiting classes:
Cincy: 76/85 recruits were 2* stars or lower with NO 4* or 5*star recuits. They finished the season ranked #17 with a 10-3 record.
ND: 10/77 recruits were 2* stars or lower with 26 4*star and 3 5*star recruits. They finished the season unranked with a 3-9 record.
Charlie Weis may be a great recruiter, but his staff doesn’t know how to develop talent and prepare his players. Dantonio finds players with great upside, willing to learn, hard working, and that stay out of trouble (FloridaState knows how important that last point is.)
Remember that Silva guy from BostonCollege that intercepted 2 of our passes? He was a lowly 2*star recruit and was the lowest rated player taken by BC. I’m not worried about this class at all. Dantonio has seen these guys in person and knows them better than us. He will find guys that fit his system and his staff will push them to their limitations. Trust in Dantonio, he’s not new to this game.
A bit of an off-MSU question regarding a player from my alma mater, and one that MSU didn't recruit.
Dan Vandreumel, the State's all-time leading touchdown passing QB. Anyone know where he's likely headed? If he was three or four inches taller, he'd have everyone coming after him. TIA.
As a new member of this board, I don’t want to step on any toes, but we need to keep things in perspective. The star rating system isn’t everything…if anything at all. Here’s a comparison of Cincy and Notre Dame using the star system for the past 4 recruiting classes:
Cincy: 76/85 recruits were 2* stars or lower with NO 4* or 5*star recuits. They finished the season ranked #17 with a 10-3 record.
ND: 10/77 recruits were 2* stars or lower with 26 4*star and 3 5*star recruits. They finished the season unranked with a 3-9 record.
Charlie Weis may be a great recruiter, but his staff doesn’t know how to develop talent and prepare his players. Dantonio finds players with great upside, willing to learn, hard working, and that stay out of trouble (FloridaState knows how important that last point is.)
Remember that Silva guy from BostonCollege that intercepted 2 of our passes? He was a lowly 2*star recruit and was the lowest rated player taken by BC. I’m not worried about this class at all. Dantonio has seen these guys in person and knows them better than us. He will find guys that fit his system and his staff will push them to their limitations. Trust in Dantonio, he’s not new to this game.
Wow that's a pretty good comparison. However, even though the star system isn't EVERYTHING it definitely helps to have more stars.
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As a new member of this board, I don’t want to step on any toes, but we need to keep things in perspective. The star rating system isn’t everything…if anything at all. Here’s a comparison of Cincy and Notre Dame using the star system for the past 4 recruiting classes:
Cincy: 76/85 recruits were 2* stars or lower with NO 4* or 5*star recuits. They finished the season ranked #17 with a 10-3 record.
ND: 10/77 recruits were 2* stars or lower with 26 4*star and 3 5*star recruits. They finished the season unranked with a 3-9 record.
Charlie Weis may be a great recruiter, but his staff doesn’t know how to develop talent and prepare his players. Dantonio finds players with great upside, willing to learn, hard working, and that stay out of trouble (FloridaState knows how important that last point is.)
Remember that Silva guy from BostonCollege that intercepted 2 of our passes? He was a lowly 2*star recruit and was the lowest rated player taken by BC. I’m not worried about this class at all. Dantonio has seen these guys in person and knows them better than us. He will find guys that fit his system and his staff will push them to their limitations. Trust in Dantonio, he’s not new to this game.
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As a new member of this board, I don’t want to step on any toes, but we need to keep things in perspective. The star rating system isn’t everything…if anything at all. Here’s a comparison of Cincy and Notre Dame using the star system for the past 4 recruiting classes:
Cincy: 76/85 recruits were 2* stars or lower with NO 4* or 5*star recuits. They finished the season ranked #17 with a 10-3 record.
ND: 10/77 recruits were 2* stars or lower with 26 4*star and 3 5*star recruits. They finished the season unranked with a 3-9 record.
Charlie Weis may be a great recruiter, but his staff doesn’t know how to develop talent and prepare his players. Dantonio finds players with great upside, willing to learn, hard working, and that stay out of trouble (FloridaState knows how important that last point is.)
Remember that Silva guy from BostonCollege that intercepted 2 of our passes? He was a lowly 2*star recruit and was the lowest rated player taken by BC. I’m not worried about this class at all. Dantonio has seen these guys in person and knows them better than us. He will find guys that fit his system and his staff will push them to their limitations. Trust in Dantonio, he’s not new to this game.
Great post, Cal. Do so more often! Like to hear from my BC bros....
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Originally Posted by WBill@
Lots of folks that ridicule the idea of moral victories, don't take the same approach with real wins.
As a new member of this board, I don’t want to step on any toes, but we need to keep things in perspective. The star rating system isn’t everything…if anything at all. Here’s a comparison of Cincy and Notre Dame using the star system for the past 4 recruiting classes:
Cincy: 76/85 recruits were 2* stars or lower with NO 4* or 5*star recuits. They finished the season ranked #17 with a 10-3 record.
ND: 10/77 recruits were 2* stars or lower with 26 4*star and 3 5*star recruits. They finished the season unranked with a 3-9 record. Notre Dame may be a great recruiter, but Charlie Weis and his staff Do not know how to develop talent and prepare his players. Dantonio finds players with great upside, willing to learn, hard working, and that stay out of trouble (FloridaState knows how important that last point is.)
Remember that Silva guy from BostonCollege that intercepted 2 of our passes? He was a lowly 2*star recruit and was the lowest rated player taken by BC. I’m not worried about this class at all. Dantonio has seen these guys in person and knows them better than us. He will find guys that fit his system and his staff will push them to their limitations. Trust in Dantonio, he’s not new to this game.
Wow that's a pretty good comparison. However, even though the star system isn't EVERYTHING it definitely helps to have more stars.
Obviously, though I doubt we'll ever be a consistent 4* school. My guess is we'll have a lot of classes in the Top 25-40 range under , with a lot of 8-4 type seasons. Occasionally better; very rarely worse. He'll coach "up" those kids on a consistent basis, meaning that the ones some of us may be disappointed in landing on signing day will become solid if not standout Big Ten players before all is said and done.
I trust 's eye for talent. He's not flashy, and I'm sure his classes won't be on paper very often either. But the kids who want to get better and want to be while running through a brick wall for our coach and our program will be on board, and that's just about all you can ask for as a fan in my book.
Remember, consistency is what we need here and what we've been lacking for a long, long time. is starting to give us an inch; I just hope our fan base doesn't want to immediately take a yard.
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Lots of folks that ridicule the idea of moral victories, don't take the same approach with real wins.
A bit of an off-MSU question regarding a player from my alma mater, and one that MSU didn't recruit.
Dan Vandreumel, the State's all-time leading touchdown passing QB. Anyone know where he's likely headed? If he was three or four inches taller, he'd have everyone coming after him. TIA.
.....with a very accurate arm as well. I think he's between 5'9" and 5'10". Almost in the mold of a Drew Brees coming out of HS....only a bit more fleet of foot. If he goes D-II, he'll kick some serious azz.
EDIT: Found a recent article. Some impressive accolades. Looks like he will end up in Div. II.
In Geoff Kimmerly's "Best of 2007," he mentions VanDreumel as being one of best Mid-Mich QB's ever:
5. Football records fall: East Lansing running back Issac Harper ran for an incredible area-record 2,498 yards in leading the Trojans to an unexpected state semifinal berth. One of the teams his defeated, DeWitt, was led by arguably the best area quarterback of all-time in Dan VanDreumel, who threw a state-record 38 touchdown passes.
Speaking of Isaac Harper, does anyone know where he is going? He seems pretty impressive from his highlight reel (which includes his TD's in his EL's win over Dewitt)
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while running through a brick wall for our coach and our program will be on board, and that's just about all you can ask for as a fan in my book.
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