tOfficial 2008 Football Recruiting Thread

[nicho197]

Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

Ouch.

yeah, ouch although we all knew louisville would be hard to beat. I guess the sinus infection he told people he had was a lie afterall.

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by nicho197

yeah, ouch although we all knew louisville would be hard to beat. I guess the sinus infection he told people he had was a lie afterall.

I was really hoping to see either Jacquies Smith or Scruggs in green and white, and figured worst-case-scenario that we'd land one of the two.

To come up empty and know our hopes are fading with Perry....

[mandarich]

Originally Posted by Gary in Bradenton

I already think this class is a step forward. The reason being they have recruited speed and lots of it and do have some solid athletes in this class. If these things happen I think it would make the step forward look more substantial but I already feel this class is a step forward.



You really are truly a worthless assbag of a poster. Get ****ing lost already.

I think a big factor on whether or not this class will be a success is attrition. So far it seems like has gone after quality guys that hopefully will keep their noses clean and remain academically elgible. This program deperately needs a solid foundation in order to build some depth that has been lacking for a long time. I think that one of the major downfalls of the JLS era was the enormous amount of attrition. That 2004 class was supposed to be a top ten class but it fell apart faster than JLS could slap himself.

[SpartanRocky]

Originally Posted by mandarich

I think a big factor on whether or not this class will be a success is attrition. So far it seems like has gone after quality guys that hopefully will keep their noses clean and remain academically elgible. This program deperately needs a solid foundation in order to build some depth that has been lacking for a long time. I think that one of the major downfalls of the JLS era was the enormous amount of attrition. That 2004 class was supposed to be a top ten class but it fell apart faster than JLS could slap himself.

QFT

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by mandarich

I think a big factor on whether or not this class will be a success is attrition. So far it seems like has gone after quality guys that hopefully will keep their noses clean and remain academically elgible. This program deperately needs a solid foundation in order to build some depth that has been lacking for a long time. I think that one of the major downfalls of the JLS era was the enormous amount of attrition. That 2004 class was supposed to be a top ten class but it fell apart faster than JLS could slap himself.

Well said.

In the grand scheme of things, regardless of who signs from here on out, none of us will be able to say one way or another what kind of class this is/was until we look back years from now.

[Gary in Bradenton]

Originally Posted by mandarich

I think a big factor on whether or not this class will be a success is attrition. So far it seems like has gone after quality guys that hopefully will keep their noses clean and remain academically elgible. This program deperately needs a solid foundation in order to build some depth that has been lacking for a long time. I think that one of the major downfalls of the JLS era was the enormous amount of attrition. That 2004 class was supposed to be a top ten class but it fell apart faster than JLS could slap himself.

You could also say the same for the BW era as well. There was a fair amount of attrition for one reason or another during his tenure as well.

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by Gary in Bradenton

You could also say the same for the BW era as well. There was a fair amount of attrition for one reason or another during his tenure as well.

Where we saw that, despite the # of big-name, high-profile guys BW landed, no depth and balance kills a class and eventually a program.

[Badfish]

Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

Well said.

In the grand scheme of things, regardless of who signs from here on out, none of us will be able to say one way or another what kind of class this is/was until we look back years from now.

Spartan Magazine had a section like this earlier this year where they analyzed the last five recruiting classes and how they turned out it was interesting to see how all the players compared to their rankings and how some of the higher ranked guy I had never heard of because they had "Issues"

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by Badfish

Spartan Magazine had a section like this earlier this year where they analyzed the last five recruiting classes and how they turned out it was interesting to see how all the players compared to their rankings and how some of the higher ranked guy I had never heard of because they had "Issues"

It's never fair to analyze a class -- good or bad, football or basketball -- until you have the hindsight to do so, which is why I've never understood why a typical MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, etc. fan shouts from the rooftops when Rivals deems their Class a Top 15-20 or why they're ready to slit their throats if it's in the 30-40 range.

Frankly, there isn't much difference between a No. 20 and a No. 35 class, especially when you take the coaches and the kind of development/guidance they'll receive once they get on campus into consideration. That has been 's bread and butter -- he has the track record of a practice and game-day developer, vs. a living room legend. His classes will never blow you away numbers-wise, but I think we'll be more than pleased with the results when all is said and done. Keep the long-term in mind if the short-term has you down on Feb. 6.

[SpartanRocky]

Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

Where we saw that, despite the # of big-name, high-profile guys BW landed, no depth and balance kills a class and eventually a program.

Give me a group of well-coached, disciplined "3-stars" for 4-5 years over some 4-5 stars who are prima dona's, play sparringly and like to rob their fellow students any day of the week.

If can consistently win 8 games a year (regular season) then we'll see the better classes coming in. As of right now, I think we're getting a lot of solid contributors, maybe a few will break out or wash out, but I think we're developing a solid core of players that will be the backbone of some very good teams in 09 and '10.

[Randolph Junuh]

Originally Posted by Gary in Bradenton

You could also say the same for the BW era as well. There was a fair amount of attrition for one reason or another during his tenure as well.

Based on the lists of recruits from rivals in the classes from 2002-2005, I couldn't remember half of them playing much, or at all. There were 101 players brought in over that time, and there were over fifty names that I don't recall doing much of anything.

[MrMojoRisin]

Originally Posted by SpartanRocky

Give me a group of well-coached, disciplined "3-stars" for 4-5 years over some 4-5 stars who are prima dona's, play sparringly and like to rob their fellow students any day of the week.

If can consistently win 8 games a year (regular season) then we'll see the better classes coming in. As of right now, I think we're getting a lot of solid contributors, maybe a few will break out or wash out, but I think we're developing a solid core of players that will be the backbone of some very good teams in 09 and '10.

I get what you are saying but to consistently win 8 games you are going to need a lot of good talent. The Big 10 is very competitive now.

[SpartanGA]

I guess this could also be the huge get...he was on campus weekend of 1/19.

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But still questionable as a HUGE get. But a flop from UCLA could be big news. 6'5", 270 is HUGE.

Also, maybe we pulled Scruggs offer because Perry committed and he is the HUGE commit.

[MikeE]

I don't follow recruiting very close, but just read the last few pages here. I see Corey Johnson is a 3 star prospect. Anyone know his status as far as has he visited MSU, been offered, being actively pursued by the staff?

[Big M]

Originally Posted by MikeE

I don't follow recruiting very close, but just read the last few pages here. I see Corey Johnson is a 3 star prospect. Anyone know his status as far as has he visited MSU, been offered, being actively pursued by the staff?

He isn't being persued by anyone.

I guess he wasn't a can't miss, top WR in the state prospect afterall....

[SpartanFan81]

Originally Posted by steve81

2009 info: Da Chairman said today that Dion Sims was offered a football scholarship yesterday at the game. He is the football and hoop player from Detroit. Does anyone know if Izzo has offered a hoop scholarship as well?

Heard Sims 2nd hand info from a source that talked to a family member of Sims and said there is no way Sims will pick MSU and hasn't given any thought to wanting to go here. He wants to go out of state, possilby UNC, but the draw to go to U of M could be there as well. His father works for U of M.

[SpartanFan81]

Originally Posted by Big M

He isn't being persued by anyone.

I guess he wasn't a can't miss, top WR in the state prospect afterall....

well he did win WR MVP down at the nike combine. I think he would have offers, but his grades suck. I don't think he's as hard a worker as rojo either.

[calispartan]

Originally Posted by SpartanFan81

Heard Sims 2nd hand info from a source that talked to a family member of Sims and said there is no way Sims will pick MSU and hasn't given any thought to wanting to go here. He wants to go out of state, possilby UNC, but the draw to go to U of M could be there as well. His father works for U of M.

Does anyone think this guy is really a MSU fan?? Pretty excited about T. Robinson to scUM a bit back I'd say, Wolvie

[nicho197]

Originally Posted by SpartanFan81

Heard Sims 2nd hand info from a source that talked to a family member of Sims and said there is no way Sims will pick MSU and hasn't given any thought to wanting to go here. He wants to go out of state, possilby UNC, but the draw to go to U of M could be there as well. His father works for U of M.

[SpartanGA]

Originally Posted by MikeE

I don't follow recruiting very close, but just read the last few pages here. I see Corey Johnson is a 3 star prospect. Anyone know his status as far as has he visited MSU, been offered, being actively pursued by the staff?

[nicho197]

Originally Posted by Smitty

How confident in that are you? I have no idea, but i doubt it's him.

SM has been pretty adamant about discrediting that guy's info, and SM (for reasons beyond my comprehension) are DMI backers.

I dont think they are the same guy.

i'm positive as paul or matt said it was him a week ago. They were backers, but are not anymore as he has been banned for a few months now.

[SpartanFan81]

Originally Posted by calispartan

Does anyone think this guy is really a MSU fan?? Pretty excited about T. Robinson to scUM a bit back I'd say, Wolvie

yea i was soooo excited. All i said was Big M did you hear, because I know he doesn't get scout

[Stats]

Originally Posted by SpartanFan81

Heard Sims 2nd hand info from a source that talked to a family member of Sims and said there is no way Sims will pick MSU and hasn't given any thought to wanting to go here. He wants to go out of state, possilby UNC, but the draw to go to U of M could be there as well. His father works for U of M.

Awfully strange that he'd visit a school he's not interested in as many times as he has.

[nicho197]

Originally Posted by StatsETC

Awfully strange that he'd visit a school he's not interested in as many times as he has.

yeah, was just about to post the same thing.

[bpmcgant]

Originally Posted by nicho197

yeah, was just about to post the same thing.

Morals aside, why wouldn't you go get wined and dined?