tOfficial 2008 Football Recruiting Thread

[PortlandSpartan]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

I say naming your kid "Yourhighness" is a stupid thing to do, which it most certainly is, and I'm a racist.

Except thats not really what you said. You said that his name is a "danger sign". Not racist, but certainly dumb.

[Big Kahuna]

Originally Posted by Tommyboy

How about Yo Morgan

YoMo it is! YoMo for Heisman! There goes YOMO!

YoMama!

[Plate of Shrimp]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

Yeah, I'm a bigot.

Thank you.

[Topopo]

Originally Posted by MSU_Basketball08

Hilarious. My day is better now. Thank you for that.

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by PortlandSpartan

Except thats not really what you said. You said that his name is a "danger sign". Not racist, but certainly dumb.

Hey, sometimes the light goes off on your dashboard, but everything's fine. All I'm saying is if we're after two equal players, one named Yourhighness and the other named Fred, I want the latter. As it is, we don't have a choice, so welcome aboard, Yohigh.

[Ozymandias]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

Hey, sometimes the light goes off on your dashboard, but everything's fine. All I'm saying is if we're after two equal players, one named Yourhighness and the other named Fred, I want the latter. As it is, we don't have a choice, so welcome aboard, Yohigh.

But why should a kid's name have anything to do with it? That's something he cannot control, so why "punish" him for it?

[Plate of Shrimp]

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

But why should a kid's name have anything to do with it? That's something he cannot control, so why "punish" him for it?

But you don't understand, if he was white and had a million dollars in his hand and was the queen of england and could prove that the moon landing was real and dewey DID defeat truman, Bruce still wouldn't want him on his team if there was a kid named John that also had a million dollars in his hand and was the queen of england and could prove that the moon landing was real and dewey DID defeat truman.

So you see he's not a bigot, he's not a bigot because of hyperbole. Don't you get it.

[mitch cumstein]

imagine this scenario for perry:

he knows he wants to be close to home, so even though he is flirting w/ usc and miami, he already knows its between msu and um. he goes to um, and is not blown away by shredriguez or um in general, maybe he doesn't get that warm-tingly. maybe he knows where he wants to go, has an in-home with MD with both parents there and says "you know, coach...i think i want to be at MSU."

not saying that's the way it has gone or will go down, or that he is who the orange is, but i'm just saying. you don't know what is going through the mind of a recruit. not everybody bolts to the "premier" programs.

also, if everybody was discounting when perry said "and that's what i'm going to play there for" at the banquet, then why is everybody so quick to give up when he lists msu 4th (in a um interview, no less)

anyway, this is just me being wishful, but at the same time, i have been in sales for a long, long time, and if nothig else, i have the ability to read people, and what i'm reading from perry from afar is that, well, all may not be what it seems.

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by Plate of Shrimp

But you don't understand, if he was white and had a million dollars in his hand and was the queen of england and could prove that the moon landing was real and dewey DID defeat truman, Bruce still wouldn't want him on his team if there was a kid named John that also had a million dollars in his hand and was the queen of england and could prove that the moon landing was real and dewey DID defeat truman.

So you see he's not a bigot, he's not a bigot because of hyperbole. Don't you get it.

How about you ease up with the name-calling? That's a pretty serious thing to accuse someone of. I never said anything about race. You're the one making that connection.

Do you have any kids? What are their first names? All I've said is you've got to wonder about parents who would name their kid Yourhighness. I think I'll stand by that statement. The people I can think of with similar names are pretty ****ed up.

[Bruce Banner Ad]

he knows he wants to be close to home, so even though he is flirting w/ usc and miami, he already knows its between msu and um. he goes to um, and is not blown away by shredriguez or um in general, maybe he doesn't get that warm-tingly. maybe he knows where he wants to go, has an in-home with MD with both parents there and says "you know, coach...i think i want to be at MSU."

Thank you.

[calispartan]

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

Wow...talk about a very stupid comment right there. You don't want a kid based on his ****ing name?

yeah his thought process is way out there. almost like giving up football because you once bumped into an actor that killed himself.

btw: the above comment about the name could have been said better, but pt taken. i.e: SirDarean

[DMBSparty]

Originally Posted by Plate of Shrimp

But you don't understand, if he was white and had a million dollars in his hand and was the queen of england and could prove that the moon landing was real and dewey DID defeat truman, Bruce still wouldn't want him on his team if there was a kid named John that also had a million dollars in his hand and was the queen of england and could prove that the moon landing was real and dewey DID defeat truman.

So you see he's not a bigot, he's not a bigot because of hyperbole. Don't you get it.

Dude drop the race crap, this is a recruiting thread if you two need to have a dsf do it over PM or a seperate thread

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

But why should a kid's name have anything to do with it? That's something he cannot control, so why "punish" him for it?

I think that's obviously a fair point. I'm just saying it gives one pause. Unless one is out to blindly defend one of the only three verbals we've gotten since the bowl game, (maybe). Clearly this kid wasn't plan A. But if he signs, I'll support him, just like I did Sirderean right up until he got suspended for the bowl game.

[BillOGoods]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

It's funny how we have and haven't gotten past race in this country. Obama can win Iowa, yet it's still a racial uproar just b/c Clinton uses the words "fairy tale" to describe his position on Iraq, (I favor Obama, btw).

I say naming your kid "Yourhighness" is a stupid thing to do, which it most certainly is, and I'm a racist.

I take your point, BBA. But, before you trivialize the Clinton's bigotry, read this from one of the most perceptive and intelligent political commentators in America, Christopher "God Is Not Great" Hitchens: see It should be no surprise that the Clintons are playing the race card. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine

I don't agree with the premise of his book, God Is Not Great (in fact, the whole premise is misleading and sophomoric, unusual for CH), but his political ear is well tuned.

[DMBSparty]

Originally Posted by BillOGoods

I take your point, BBA. But, before you trivialize the Clinton's bigotry, read this from one of the most perceptive and intelligent political commentators in America, Christopher "God Is Not Great" Hitchens: see It should be no surprise that the Clintons are playing the race card. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine

I don't agree with the premise of his book, God Is Not Great (in fact, the whole premise is misleading and sophomoric, unusual for CH), but his political ear is well tuned.

Why is this thread turning into a race/political debate?

[burnsmi4]

The kid from Ohio, Will Fleming, commited to Akron. The coaching staff was thinking about making him a LB but im not sure if they did offer him at the end.

[Plate of Shrimp]

Originally Posted by DMBSparty

Why is this thread turning into a race/political debate?

It's my fault, I made a stupid bigoted comment about a potential recruits name.........

[Bruce Banner Ad]

Originally Posted by BillOGoods

I take your point, BBA. But, before you trivialize the Clinton's bigotry, read this from one of the most perceptive and intelligent political commentators in America, Christopher "God Is Not Great" Hitchens: see It should be no surprise that the Clintons are playing the race card. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine

I don't agree with the premise of his book, God Is Not Great (in fact, the whole premise is misleading and sophomoric, unusual for CH), but his political ear is well tuned.

Thanks for the link, interesting read. My Clinton example was an isolated one, I find them very calculating, and I find their comparison of Obama to Jackson sickeningly cynical, (there's some alliteration for you!).

Sorry, I'll stop talking about politics, race, and parenting. I wouldn't want to waste any space in a 300-page thread about the twenty kids we'll be able to sign.

[msusnee]

Originally Posted by burnsmi4

The kid from Ohio, Will Fleming, commited to Akron. The coaching staff was thinking about making him a LB but im not sure if they did offer him at the end.

I thought I read on here that he was supposed to visit last weekend, but the coaches called him and told him that they had just received a linebacker commit so they no longer had room for him.

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by msusnee

I thought I read on here that he was supposed to visit last weekend, but the coaches called him and told him that they had just received a linebacker commit so they no longer had room for him.

True, which is why we're all assuming the "orange" almost has to be Morgan.

[Tommyboy]

Originally Posted by Plate of Shrimp

It's my fault, I made a stupid bigoted comment about a potential recruits name.........

you, or bruce?

[Plate of Shrimp]

Are any of our recruits from divorced families? Because I don't want anyone coming from a divorced family because you know, bad parenting. You never know when they'll mug some one after a party.

[BillOGoods]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

Thanks for the link, interesting read. My Clinton example was an isolated one, I find them very calculating, and I find their comparison of Obama to Jackson sickeningly cynical, (there's some alliteration for you!).

Sorry, I'll stop talking about politics, race, and parenting. I wouldn't want to waste any space in a 300-page thread about the twenty kids we'll be able to sign.

No, that wasn't my point. I love to talk about race. Remember, it was Bill Clinton that told us all we need to have a national discussion about race. I'm just following through.

My only point that the slander wasn't about the "fairy tale" comment. That's all. I understood your premise quite well and thought it was a fair point to make. You made it clear: Hey, the kid could be the greatest, but . . . . You wonder what the hell the parents are thinking. It's like the movie stars of the 60s that give their kids weird names "moonstruck" and the like or "zeible" (was that Frank Zappa?). Spare me.

As far as divorced kids, that's truly irrelevant. This is the "boy named Sue" genre of wonderments. Totally different.

[49ers169]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

Thanks for the link, interesting read. My Clinton example was an isolated one, I find them very calculating, and I find their comparison of Obama to Jackson sickeningly cynical, (there's some alliteration for you!).

Sorry, I'll stop talking about politics, race, and parenting. I wouldn't want to waste any space in a 300-page thread about the twenty kids we'll be able to sign.

Well we will soon have to open up a 2009 official recruiting thread .

[Yellowledbetter]

Originally Posted by Plate of Shrimp

Are any of our recruits from divorced families? Because I don't want anyone coming from a divorced family because you know, bad parenting. You never know when they'll mug some one after a party.

no poor recruits either, dont know what they will do to make ends meet