tOfficial 2008 Football Recruiting Thread

[EMSP]

Originally Posted by Jason Grilli's Sofa

Grades aren't the only issue with CoJo. After what happened with RoJo last year, a lot of schools backed off.

Meaning what? A top 20 player leaving the state of MI to go to a Top 3 program in the country? Waiting until the last minute to announce?

[Stats]

Originally Posted by spartyguy

Meaning what? A top 20 player leaving the state of MI to go to a Top 3 program in the country? Waiting until the last minute to announce?

No, the Muskegon coaches stopping any contact with anyone other than UM.

[EMSP]

Originally Posted by StatsETC

No, the Muskegon coaches stopping any contact with anyone other than UM.

Ahhh. Good call, i forgot about them keeping info from the players. Yea, that was pretty shady. I thought the initial comment was insinuating more about the Johnson's.

[Larry Harrisons Lotion]

Originally Posted by Plate of Shrimp

Dude, you're a ****ing bigot.

Hey Shrimp, you rockin the White Man's Guilt, or are you minority? Take a freaking pill you little oversensitive nancy boy.

[Plate of Shrimp]

Originally Posted by The Banned User

Hey Shrimp, you rockin the White Man's Guilt, or are you minority? Take a freaking pill you little oversensitive nancy boy.

[DantonIzzo]

Originally Posted by mitch cumstein

imagine this scenario for perry:

he knows he wants to be close to home, so even though he is flirting w/ usc and miami, he already knows its between msu and um. he goes to um, and is not blown away by shredriguez or um in general, maybe he doesn't get that warm-tingly. maybe he knows where he wants to go, has an in-home with MD with both parents there and says "you know, coach...i think i want to be at MSU."

not saying that's the way it has gone or will go down, or that he is who the orange is, but i'm just saying. you don't know what is going through the mind of a recruit. not everybody bolts to the "premier" programs.

also, if everybody was discounting when perry said "and that's what i'm going to play there for" at the banquet, then why is everybody so quick to give up when he lists msu 4th (in a um interview, no less)

anyway, this is just me being wishful, but at the same time, i have been in sales for a long, long time, and if nothig else, i have the ability to read people, and what i'm reading from perry from afar is that, well, all may not be what it seems.

I hope you're right, mitch. I really do.

I want Perry and Ingram to come to MSU, but not just because they're superb 4* football prospects. They both seem like high character guys who will work hard for any program and have a good head on their shoulders regardless of where they go.

Sometimes you get an athlete who "transcends" and becomes a cornerstone recruit because he's a great person as well. Perry and Ingram seem to be the total package from what I've read and heard. Their abilities and potential as players go without saying, but they could also really stand for something as pillars in a rising football program. At least, that's what I envision.

I'm still holding out hope.

[ninowesco]

Originally Posted by DantonIzzo

It's never fair to analyze a class -- good or bad, football or basketball -- until you have the hindsight to do so, which is why I've never understood why a typical MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, etc. fan shouts from the rooftops when Rivals deems their Class a Top 15-20 or why they're ready to slit their throats if it's in the 30-40 range.

Frankly, there isn't much difference between a No. 20 and a No. 35 class, especially when you take the coaches and the kind of development/guidance they'll receive once they get on campus into consideration. That has been 's bread and butter -- he has the track record of a practice and game-day developer, vs. a living room legend. His classes will never blow you away numbers-wise, but I think we'll be more than pleased with the results when all is said and done. Keep the long-term in mind if the short-term has you down on Feb. 6.

how many times have you contradicted yourself in this thread?

25? 30?

[GreenMeany]

Originally Posted by BillOGoods

I take your point, BBA. But, before you trivialize the Clinton's bigotry, read this from one of the most perceptive and intelligent political commentators in America, Christopher "God Is Not Great" Hitchens: see It should be no surprise that the Clintons are playing the race card. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine

I don't agree with the premise of his book, God Is Not Great (in fact, the whole premise is misleading and sophomoric, unusual for CH), but his political ear is well tuned.

Priceless on so many levels. BillOGoods, a far-right warrior, advises another poster not to "trivialize Clinton's bigotry" and, to buttress his "argument," links to an article by Christopher Hitchens, a former lefty who jumped ship over Iraq. The article, for those of you who haven't bothered to read it, relies on Dick Morris (professional cynic who, like Hitchens, has worked both sides of the political divide) and calls Toni Morrison "self-hating" because she labeled Clinton the "First Black President." Oh, and no mention of the fact that after Clinton left office he moved to Harlem.

Also priceless, the praise heaped on Hitchens for his acumen except in his views on religion, which BillOGoods derides as misleading and sophomoric. "He's incredibly astute when he agrees with me. When he doesn't, he's an idiot."

For the record, I'm for Obama.

[Martin Spartan]

Originally Posted by GreenMeany

Priceless on so many levels. BillOGoods, a far-right warrior, advises another poster not to "trivialize Clinton's bigotry" and, to buttress his "argument," links to an article by Christopher Hitchens, a former lefty who jumped ship over Iraq. The article, for those of you who haven't bothered to read it, relies on Dick Morris (professional cynic who, like Hitchens, has worked both sides of the political divide) and calls Toni Morrison "self-hating" because she labeled Clinton the "First Black President." Oh, and no mention of the fact that after Clinton left office he moved to Harlem.

Also priceless, the praise heaped on Hitchens for his acumen except in his views on religion, which BillOGoods derides as misleading and sophomoric. "He's incredibly astute when he agrees with me. When he doesn't, he's an idiot."

For the record, I'm for Obama.

mods please delete this post and posts like it!

[SpartanGA]

Originally Posted by m_sell31

mods please delete this post and posts like it!

Agreed. Take this **** to Wells. We dont give a **** who you like and what you think.

[Listerine]

Originally Posted by burnsmi4

The kid from Ohio, Will Fleming, commited to Akron. The coaching staff was thinking about making him a LB but im not sure if they did offer him at the end.

He was scheduled to visit, but the coaching staff cancelled and told him they had received an LB commit. That is why if I guessed on the orange reported by SM, I'd go with Steve Gardiner.

[usual suspect]

Originally Posted by Listerine

He was scheduled to visit, but the coaching staff cancelled and told him they had received an LB commit. That is why if I guessed on the orange reported by SM, I'd go with Steve Gardiner.

So, it seems that the orange is either Morgan or Gardiner. Any chance we take both?

[usual suspect]

Originally Posted by burnsmi4

The kid from Ohio, Will Fleming, commited to Akron. The coaching staff was thinking about making him a LB but im not sure if they did offer him at the end.

From Rivals...Akron (Ohio) Hoban three-star safety Will Fleming said it would always be tough to turn down his father's offer to play for him at Akron.

[Flying Polack]

Originally Posted by Bruce Banner Ad

4. I realize that beggars can't be choosers, but I'm not wild about getting a kid named "Yourhighness." Two reasons: a) what kind of parenting could this kid possibly have? Who would hang a handle like that on their kid? b) the nationwide negative headlines if the kid ever gets busted with drugs.

Holy crap. I can't believe you said this.

You don't want to get a kid because his name will be embarrassing to MSU if he's ever busted for drugs? Do you have a particular reason to think he'll be busted by drugs?

Can't believe MODS don't delete this crap. Welcome to my ignore list jerkoff.

[Springfield Duvel]

The thing that cracks me up about the Yourhighness name haters is that if the kid is a bad apple he is going to be an embarrassment no matter what his name is.

For example what is so unusual about a name like Stephen Holman?

Let's see what kind of judge of the individual Coach D is before we heap on stupid remarks. Yourhighness might be a Jehuu type of guy and not a Batman/SirD.

[o4k13k]

Originally Posted by Flying Polack

Holy crap. I can't believe you said this.

You don't want to get a kid because his name will be embarrassing to MSU if he's ever busted for drugs? Do you have a particular reason to think he'll be busted by drugs?

Can't believe MODS don't delete this crap. Welcome to my ignore list jerkoff.

While we are on the topic of names, here is a good one a found from awhile ago...

DL: LeQuantum McDonald (Baylor)

[Jovi]

The last 2-3 pages of this thread are particularly sucky.

[Lost in Cyberspace]

Originally Posted by Jovi

The last 2-3 pages of this thread are particularly sucky.

I concur. It sucks when lame ass mods don't do their jobs.

[Tommyboy]

Takes walk-on offer

"(Coach Mark Dantonio) is a great guy, he really is. You can talk to him easily, say what's on your mind, and he respects ... your opinion." - Dan Conroy

Scout $

No Info from scout
Scout.com: Dan Conroy Profile


Some vitals from Rivals
Dan Conroy - Football Recruiting

According to www.Kohlskicking.com he is a 4-4.5 star kicker, Rated #26

[mandarich]

The MSU Scout site dropped another ball when they reported FL DE Quincy Barr was visiting East Lansing this past weekend. Barr was at Hofstra instead and gave them a verbal. Thanks Scout !

From the Saint Petersburg Times:

Sharks' Barr chooses Hofstra

Riverview defensive end Quincy Barr didn't want to waste another trip when his "heart was with Hofstra."

Barr orally committed to Hofstra late Monday night, just one day after returning home from an official visit to the Long Island area campus. The 6-foot-5, 223-pound senior, who racked up 63 tackles last season, said he was offered a visit to Boise State for this weekend, but "didn't want to go anywhere else."

"Everything is right (at Hofstra)," Barr said. "It was a good atmosphere - it felt like my second home."

[kevdawg911]

would this be the worst recruiting year since 2003 and 2005? or would this even be worse than both of those years?

[Tommyboy]

Originally Posted by kevdawg911

would this be the worst recruiting year since 2003 and 2005? or would this even be worse than both of those years?

yes because we will go 0-13 next year if we dont land them

[Sonny SixKill]

Originally Posted by mandarich

The MSU Scout site dropped another ball when they reported FL DE Quincy Barr was visiting East Lansing this past weekend. Barr was at Hofstra instead and gave them a verbal. Thanks Scout !

From the Saint Petersburg Times:

Sharks' Barr chooses Hofstra

Riverview defensive end Quincy Barr didn't want to waste another trip when his "heart was with Hofstra."

Barr orally committed to Hofstra late Monday night, just one day after returning home from an official visit to the Long Island area campus. The 6-foot-5, 223-pound senior, who racked up 63 tackles last season, said he was offered a visit to Boise State for this weekend, but "didn't want to go anywhere else."

"Everything is right (at Hofstra)," Barr said. "It was a good atmosphere - it felt like my second home."

Hofstra over MSU, can't figure that one out

[newduke]

MSU needs a couple Illinoisesque recruiting years to get back on track. Not going that way so far.

[Big Kahuna]

Originally Posted by kevdawg911

would this be the worst recruiting year since 2003 and 2005? or would this even be worse than both of those years?

fire dantonio






























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