tOfficial 2008 Football Recruiting Thread

49ers169 · 02-02-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gods03

Because Norman hasn't been assessed yet. They have only looked at their top 100 with any depth at this point. Look for Norman to be in the 5.7-5.8 range, teetering between 3-4 stars like Hoover, Burrell, Adams, and Ruhland. It sucks because if he would have signed with scUM or USC, he probably wouls have already been labeled a solid four star rating. My guess is that Norman doesn't care, he just wants to be a spartan, like Burrell.

He will be a 4* easily. Not a three star guy and it will definitely help that he will go to camp. I think he ends up a 5.8-6.0.

Barring a terrible year or an injury.

green night · 02-02-2008, 01:51 PM

What's Big M's stats on this thread?

It seems like he's always got these mini hijack sub threads going on.... maybe it's just me.

Maybe we can get a Big M 2008 Football Recruiting Thread?

AASpartan · 02-02-2008, 01:55 PM

Can you guys take the 2009 talk over to the 2009 thread?

ninowesco · 02-02-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Big M
"Curious- what kind of "people" do you have telling you these things, living in Iowa as you do?"

Originally Posted by Big M
"No, I'm being serious. You seem a unlikely person to have connections. No offense intended or anything like that. "

I have to agree with M here. Seems like you are full of ****.

Spartan_in_PA · 02-02-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by StatsETC

Conversely, UM reportedly has 7 or 8 guys visiting and Dick Rod + seven assistants are reportedly skipping out on all these guys to go watch Pryor play hoops Saturday night!

um is not want to hear about this Recruiting: Pryor '50-50' on delaying his decision

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Pryor had planned to announce his college decision live on ESPN Wednesday. But he said yesterday he might wait at least a few days to make his choice.
"I'd say it's about 50-50 that I'll push things back," Pryor said.
One of the main reasons Pryor might not sign Wednesday is because he is thinking about making an official visit to the University of Oregon some time next week.
Earlier this week, it seemed the race was down to Ohio State and Michigan because Pryor wasn't going to visit Oregon. If Pryor visits Oregon, the Ducks will still have a chance at landing him.

msusnee · 02-02-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan_in_PA

um is not want to hear about this Recruiting: Pryor '50-50' on delaying his decision

He's going to screw um out of a mobile quarterback if he waits until after signing day and he ends up at OSU. No quarterback will sign with michigan if they know that Pryor could come in and immediately move ahead of them.

He's going to sign with OSU the day after signing day after all of the other quarterbacks um is looking at have signed elsewhere and michigan will be screwed

Topopo · 02-02-2008, 02:58 PM

Pryor to Oregon would be awesome! Then we would only have to play him once a year... In the Rose Bowl!

SpartanGA · 02-02-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan_in_PA

um is not want to hear about this Recruiting: Pryor '50-50' on delaying his decision

This kid doesnt seem anywhere close to a decision. Reading between the lines, it doesnt seem Batch is 'mentoring' much either.

Quotes like this on Penn St ""It went OK," Pryor said of the meeting. "I just don't know about the area up there. I don't know if I'd like being in that kind of area.""

He will probably have to go to therapy after he signs as all the attention will go away.

And RR bringing SEVEN assistants to the BBall game? What the hell does that do? Does that prove to a 17 year old that you really really really really want him vs. just really want him?

DantonIzzo · 02-02-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smithsonga

And RR bringing SEVEN assistants to the BBall game? What the hell does that do? Does that prove to a 17 year old that you really really really really want him vs. just really want him?

I think it's kind of creepy actually, but whatever.

DantonIzzo · 02-02-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ninowesco

Originally Posted by Big M
"Curious- what kind of "people" do you have telling you these things, living in Iowa as you do?"

Originally Posted by Big M
"No, I'm being serious. You seem a unlikely person to have connections. No offense intended or anything like that. "

I have to agree with M here. Seems like you are full of ****.

Considering you have barely posted in this thread at all before today (other than taking weak ass shots at me), I'm seriously wondering if you log into this message board and immediately type my name into the search function.

You're starting to seriously freak me out.

Soylent Green · 02-02-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Topopo

Pryor to Oregon would be awesome! Then we would only have to play him once a year... In the Rose Bowl!

Because if went to OSU or Um we would play him multiple times per year (I guess possible if he plays bball)

Jason Grillis Sofa · 02-02-2008, 03:14 PM

I just think Pryor is a big attention whore. The fact that he might go on ESPN to announce his decision will be delayed proves just that.

DantonIzzo · 02-02-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Grilli's Sofa

I just think Pryor is a big attention whore. The fact that he might go on ESPN to announce his decision will be delayed proves just that.

Agreed.

Green Ninja · 02-02-2008, 05:20 PM

Someone on the UB stated that Ingram is between Alabama and Iowa. The poster has no creditability so we will see where this takes us, stay tuned for the impending meltdown.

TeamCaptainJohn · 02-02-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Ninja

Someone on the UB stated that Ingram is between Alabama and Iowa. The poster has no creditability so we will see where this takes us, stay tuned for the impending meltdown.

i wont melt down if we dont land ingram. we are stacked at RB with or without him

Green Ninja · 02-02-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fw190bvi

i wont melt down if we dont land ingram. we are stacked at RB with or without him

I agree but there are the posters who will flip out that we did not get a top level recruit. I think this puts us in a better position for the RB out of Battle Creek, Caper?

SpartanRocky · 02-02-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fw190bvi

i wont melt down if we dont land ingram. we are stacked at RB with or without him

I disagree that we are "stacked" at RB. We have 1 proven RB. That's it. No one else on the roster has proven capable of PT yet. I realize most of them are Frosh, but we have to hope that someone out of the Ray, Anderson, Leggett, Jimmerson quartet emerges as a viable threat next year.

TeamCaptainJohn · 02-02-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartanRocky

I disagree that we are "stacked" at RB. We have 1 proven RB. That's it. No one else on the roster has proven capable of PT yet. I realize most of them are Frosh, but we have to hope that someone out of the Ray, Anderson, Leggett, Jimmerson quartet emerges as a viable threat next year.

and how does adding Mark Ingram change that?

SpartanRocky · 02-02-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fw190bvi

and how does adding Mark Ingram change that?

It doesn't.

I wasn't commenting on whether or not we get Ingram, I was just saying that we don't have a proven RB behind Ringer, contrary to your opinion that we're "stacked" at the position.

You're potentially correct, however I think it's an overstatement at this point. We won't know until this season.

newlander · 02-02-2008, 05:47 PM

Stacked? Not IMO by any means. Some good depth, but no studs whatsoever. Make no mistake, we'll be fine this year with Ringer, Leggett and Anderson but if Ringer goes down.........there's no other breakaway stud threat like Ingram would have provided. Well survive, but as I posted in another thread: and other people have posted on this board THOUSANDS of times over the years, until we start keeping Ingram, Perry and others like them at home, we won't turn the corner and win like we all want to.

Topopo · 02-02-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Soylent Green

Because if went to OSU or Um we would play him multiple times per year (I guess possible if he plays bball)

Thanks for that. I had no idea

Wow you missed the point. We will never play Pryor if he goes to Oregon unless it is in the rose bowl. And I'd be very happy with that because it is THE ROSE BOWL. With scum or OSU we will play him all the time and he will hurt us (except with OSU I think we could miss him for two years).

TeamCaptainJohn · 02-02-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by newlander

Stacked? Not IMO by any means. Some good depth, but no studs whatsoever. Make no mistake, we'll be fine this year with Ringer, Leggett and Anderson but if Ringer goes down.........there's no other breakaway stud threat like Ingram would have provided. Well survive, but as I posted in another thread: and other people have posted on this board THOUSANDS of times over the years, until we start keeping Ingram, Perry and others like them at home, we won't turn the corner and win like we all want to.

i just how everyone is discounting the kids we have, many of whom were highly touted. Anderson was gonna be the next marony (sp?) at minnesota. leggett was a state champion and a workhorse. jimmerson was as highly rated, if not higher, than ringer. ray's video is pretty damn impressive, and his measurables and numbers are sick.

spartan80 · 02-02-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartanRocky

I disagree that we are "stacked" at RB. We have 1 proven RB. That's it. No one else on the roster has proven capable of PT yet. I realize most of them are Frosh, but we have to hope that someone out of the Ray, Anderson, Leggett, Jimmerson quartet emerges as a viable threat next year.

Ingram isn't proven capable either.

He's a good H.S. player.

This happens all the time, and every year there's at least a couple of backs that step up and play. We don't get a Javon Ringer every year, but he's coming back, so if we get a kid that runs like Javon in the next class MSU is still ok.

Watch, 2 of the 4 guys you mentioned above will step up next season when Javon is getting a break.

msuferd · 02-02-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by newlander

Stacked? Not IMO by any means. Some good depth, but no studs whatsoever. Make no mistake, we'll be fine this year with Ringer, Leggett and Anderson but if Ringer goes down.........there's no other breakaway stud threat like Ingram would have provided. Well survive, but as I posted in another thread: and other people have posted on this board THOUSANDS of times over the years, until we start keeping Ingram, Perry and others like them at home, we won't turn the corner and win like we all want to.

Bingo.

While losing Ingram won't kill the program, you need to stock your program with talent if you ever want to compete w/ OSU at the top. Losing a recruit who seemed like a "gimme" isn't very helpful in accomplishing this. I also don't think it will help w/ Perry.

On to 2009, which is off to a good start.

spartan80 · 02-02-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by newlander

Stacked? Not IMO by any means. Some good depth, but no studs whatsoever. Make no mistake, we'll be fine this year with Ringer, Leggett and Anderson but if Ringer goes down.........there's no other breakaway stud threat like Ingram would have provided. Well survive, but as I posted in another thread: and other people have posted on this board THOUSANDS of times over the years, until we start keeping Ingram, Perry and others like them at home, we won't turn the corner and win like we all want to.

You've got it backwards. Until MSU starts producing consistently, the 4 & 5 star kids are going elsewhere. The only way they come to E.L. is when Dantonio & co. show they can win with 3 stars by coaching them up to occasionally upset a better team, and by winning the games against teams with similar talent. Other than that, the only way a kid like Gordon, Stanton, Duckett, etc. come to MSU is the family connection or they just grew up liking the Spartans.