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Old 01-19-2009, 04:17 PM   #2526 (permalink)


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I agree that you should not constantly bank scholarships, but we know that there is lots of 2010 talent to be had, and we are once again low on ships to give. When I was talking about Heuter, all I was trying to state was that it is a luxury not to have to do that this year. I wasn't talking about the other 3 guys at all. I think Gardiner was a steal, Rolf was obviously solid, as he worked his way into the two-deeps as a freshman, and hopefully Jude turns out to be a stud, god knows we need D-Line help.

We have three spots open as of right now. Do you expect Coach D to swoop in and grab Cody Petit, Adam Schnied and Shamari Benton tomorrow if we lose out on Nunez, Conway and Jones? Of course not. We are in a much stronger position as a program than we were a year ago.
There is a lot of talent in 2010 certainly but we will see what happens. Obviously a lot of us are counting on a few Michigan kids fulfilling their potential and if they don't we may have to look out of state for a little while.

Clearly there will be new targets in 2010 emerging in the coming months but it isn't a slam dunk that we haul in a top 15 class next year. This year we hit on a lot of Plan A's, to early to tell if we will do that for next year. You think about it and we hit Plan A's or close to it for QB, TE, RB, WR, OL and LB. Could argue CB as well if you wanted to.
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Is there any recent validity to Drummond having interest in ? The Chicago papers have him seriously considering playing for Houston Nutt at Ole Miss.

Morgan Park's Drummond rescinds commitment to Illini :: The SouthtownStar :: Sports

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Man I sure hope so . . . after Ill DE-Michael Buchannon canceled his visit to MSU this past weekend it would be sweet justice to get the top player in Ill and a top 100 overall player in Drummond . . . in the articles he indicates he will visit ol Miss this weekend . . .whats the word on his potential interest in ? I gotta believe the Spartans would reciprocate any interest after what happened this past weekend
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Did we recruit Drummond before he committed to Illinois?
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There are a few big-time DL prospects that (I believe) the staff is going to try and go after. Quinn, who was mentioned before is someone that we are really pushing hard for, and no JOHNNYDRAMA, he has not re-commited to BC as of this morning. Craig Drummond is a major DE prospect who just de-commited from the Zooker yesterday (perhaps because of Buchanan?), and I would have to believe that we really go after him as well. His offer sheet is ridiculous. You still have Nunez out there (for now), and Jarius Jones is a possibility. Noboday has gotten any feedback from Henry Conway on his visit, so it looks like he may be headed elsewhere. Justin Jones is another kid we are getting in touch with. He is an enourmous DE prospect out of Georgia that originally commited to Kentucky. The staff will not go after DJ Hunter, and Brad MacDougal is headed to Colorado it would seem. Kevin Muma (K)could still end up with a ship. The coaches really like him it seems. Farrington's not gonna happen, and if Delano Collins ended up with a ship at this point, it would reek of the Zac Heuter schollie last year. Sticking bodies on the team because we have to is not something we have to do anymore, especially with the talent available in 2010. We will only have 17 spots for next year unless we bank some scholarships or kids leave.
You're right Quinn hasn't "re-committed" to BC because he's always been a verbal to them, a soft verbal is still a verbal commitment. I must've missed where he said in his article that he wanted to play close to home after being at prep school for so long. You should probably know what you are talking out before you try to call someone out.

No, Craig Drummond did not de-commit because of Buchanan. Speculation is that Drummond tried to enroll early at Ill. and was denied entry, that is why he is looking at offer schools and decommitted. I doubt he would be able to get into MSU if he can't get into Ill., unless the requirements are different for EE. If he can't get into MSU then why would we go after him?

Nunez is going to Pitt IMO with his friend. Though maybe MSU has a chance, but I doubt it. I would think that MSU leads for Jairus Jones, but Iowa and OK State are the competition. As long as his commitment wouldn't impact Dontae Johnson I hope we get him. Who knows with Conway, I've seen some people think he is cincy bound, but I still think MSU gets him, though who knows right now. BC fired its head coach and they won't retain the O-Coor. With that kind of stability I think we have a great shot at getting him.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:01 PM   #2531 (permalink)
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I don't see MSU on there...so I'm going to ask again did MSU recruit him before?
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I agree that you should not constantly bank scholarships, but we know that there is lots of 2010 talent to be had, and we are once again low on ships to give. When I was talking about Heuter, all I was trying to state was that it is a luxury not to have to do that this year. I wasn't talking about the other 3 guys at all. I think Gardiner was a steal, Rolf was obviously solid, as he worked his way into the two-deeps as a freshman, and hopefully Jude turns out to be a stud, god knows we need D-Line help.

We have three spots open as of right now. Do you expect Coach D to swoop in and grab Cody Petit, Adam Schnied and Shamari Benton tomorrow if we lose out on Nunez, Conway and Jones? Of course not. We are in a much stronger position as a program than we were a year ago.
we will have plenty of scholarships to go around in 2010. banking scholarships in football is usually a bad move
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:38 PM   #2533 (permalink)
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we will have plenty of scholarships to go around in 2010. banking scholarships in football is usually a bad move
I'm not advocating banking scholarships or anything, but by my count next year's football team will have 17 Sr.'s (including KDC) and 14 Jr.'s (including Jenrett). Correct me if I am wrong but it looks like we will be low on scholarships to hand out for the next two years.

EDIT: The 14 Jr.'s also includes Ish Johnson. I wasn't sure if he redshirted this year.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:42 PM   #2534 (permalink)
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We don't want Hunter.

Right now he is being charged with felonous assualt. It isn't like he got into a fight over somebody talking trash to a friend or something like that. He shot a kid (15) in the face twice for no reason when he was walking home from school.

I am not sure what is sealed and what isn't sealed but the Middletown Journal reported on Friday that he also kicked in his girlfriends locked door and assualted her. This happened as a juvenile so I don't know if this will factor into his sentencing. Forget about this guy, he may in fact need to do time on this charge.

I, and I think most MSU people, can handle kids who make mistakes but are good kids deep down. MSU has had these people in the past and usually they grow up. However, I don't know that I want a guy in EL that is a convicted felon who also beats women...thos individuals generally don't just clean up their acts all of a sudden.
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I don't see MSU on there...so I'm going to ask again did MSU recruit him before?
We recruited him early but he crossed us off of his list very early on. I would not expect us to jump into his list of consideration.
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Per the Chicago Tribune and recruitingplanet.com Drummond is still sticking with Zookie.

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We recruited him early but he crossed us off of his list very early on. I would not expect us to jump into his list of consideration.
that was 9 wins ago for us and 7 losses ago for Illinois, things change constantly
in recruiting.
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Per the Chicago Tribune and recruitingplanet.com Drummond is still sticking with Zookie.

'09 IL DE Craig Drummond (Illinois Soft Verbal) - Page 3 - Recruiting Forums
complete opposite from what he said in another article, will see
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I don't see MSU on there...so I'm going to ask again did MSU recruit him before?
I'm unsure but it's interesting that Scout has MSU, Ill. and Ole Miss. as the only 3 schools he's interested in. There have been some reports that he may stick with Ill., we'll know in two weeks for sure. Here is the link to the page and a new article:

Scout.com: Craig Drummond Jr. Profile
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By no means am I trying to hate on Zack. I hope that he can contribute, and he may well do that. All I am saying is that this year, we wouldn't have cherry picked from CMU's class. We lost out on some guys late in the process last year and we scrambled to fill spots.
How many offensive lineman has CMU sent to the NFL within, say, the last 5 years? How bout MSU in the same time span? I'll take any offensive lineman that CMU is recruiting, period.
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Per the Chicago Tribune and recruitingplanet.com Drummond is still sticking with Zookie.

'09 IL DE Craig Drummond (Illinois Soft Verbal) - Page 3 - Recruiting Forums

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By A Trieu. Interview with Drummond's coach who does say Craig is no longer committed to Illinois. Coach Stovall was the main reason he verballed to Illinois, and the fact he is no longer with the Illini played a big role in Drummond's choice. Ole Miss and Tennessee are mentioned.

We are on Scout listed as his top 3 with Ill. and Ole Miss. I read that he will be able to enroll after this semester. It probably depends on how bad he wants to go to Ill. and if we are pursuing him. Anyone, A. Trieu, have any info regarding MSU and where we stand or if he is likely to leave Ill.? Hopefully, MSU can get his last visit.
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Now we know why DJ Hunter suddenly dropped off OSU's radar last summer right after supposedly getting an offer and why we suddenly stopped hearing anything about him on the MSU sites right around the same time: turns out his recent firearm escapades aren't his first brush with the law.

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The Middletown Journal reported that Hunter was also arrested in July and charged as a juvenile with aggravated trespassing, assault and criminal damaging after kicking in the door at a residence and assaulting a girl.
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Just created the Craig Drummond thread and now I can't even open it!
This used to happen with game threads during the football season because of the embedded videos that I would forget to delete, and I see now that his ESPN profile has a video.
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We possibly recruited an entire starting OL in the 2009 class.

Barrent and Conway - OT
Klatt - C or G
Reynolds - G
Treadwell - DT or C/G
France - DT or OG
Hoebing - TE, or could bulk up and move inside to G

I like the versatility of this class with respect to the interior lines on both sides of the ball to compliment the bookend OT's in Barrent and Conway.

Overall this class is outstanding, addressed RB, QB, LB, OL, TE and DL very well. With Dixon and White likely to play DB and CB respectedly, we added there too.

We are at 20 verbals, 1-2 more to go. Freeman being backdated to 2008 apparently.
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We are at 20 verbals, 1-2 more to go. Freeman being backdated to 2008 apparently.
I hadn't heard that any of our early enroll recruits were being backdated...don't even think that we had any 2008 schollies left. Likely only one spot left at most as far as I know.
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With conway on board does that mean the last spot is either Jones or a DE? Does Jones get cut?
I would think that most likely Simpkins at DE is the first priority, but doesn't have an offer yet. If we offer Simpkins he will most likely commit this weekend, if we don't offer then we will compete with Iowa and OK State for Jones. I know there are reports, but I wouldn't competely rule out Drummond until a credible site lists him as a commit to Ole Miss. Even if they don't though, it seems very unlikely that MSU will get Drummond. If the staff doesn't offer Simpkins and misses on Jones they could offer Baskins or Pitts. If this happens I would rather see the scholarship used towards the 2010 class.
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I hadn't heard that any of our early enroll recruits were being backdated...don't even think that we had any 2008 schollies left. Likely only one spot left at most as far as I know.
I saw that on Scout, they had Freeman backdated to the 2008 class. Thought it was odd, if not true, we have one spot left.

Nice to be a couple weeks from signing day with a full class full of good players at positions of need, and not scrambling to fill spots at the last minute, and carrying scholarships forward.

What are we looking at for 2010, 17 scholarships?
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