'09 IL DE Craig Drummond (Ole Miss Verbal)

[JOHNNYDRAMA08]

Originally Posted by Coached By Duffy

He was never going to qualify at a Big Ten school. It was all about academics and core classes. The MSU staff poured over his transcripts and saw there was no way he would qualify. SEC schools are much easier to qualify for entry than most conferences around the country along with the Big East and Big 12. MSU quickly arranged a visit by VA DE Clinton Simpkins for this week-end because they realized Drummond would never qualify.

That's a good point, Simpkins visit may be saying something about our status with Drummond. I still am not sure if he committed to Ole Miss. It hasn't been confirmed by a credible source yet that I have seen. He will qualify to a big ten school from what I have read. He tried to commit to a school within the college that had stronger requirements and they wouldn't accept him to that school from what I understand. I would think that he would be able to enroll at MSU into a different major and then switch his major later in the year. We should know soon whether he has committed to Ole Miss or if he is still considering MSU.

[JOHNNYDRAMA08]

Drummond is still committed to Ill. He is looking around and will still visit Ole Miss. on Jan. 30th. MSU and Tenn. are trying to get him to visit before signing day, most likely this weekend. Coach Dantonio and Coach Enos both visited him this week and he is interested in MSU. I still think Ill. leads but if we get him to visit MSU will have a chance to get him.

[Bailey1149]

Originally Posted by JOHNNYDRAMA08

Drummond is still committed to Ill. He is looking around and will still visit Ole Miss. on Jan. 30th. MSU and Tenn. are trying to get him to visit before signing day, most likely this weekend. Coach Dantonio and Coach Enos both visited him this week and he is interested in MSU. I still think Ill. leads but if we get him to visit MSU will have a chance to get him.

he was quoted in saying that it wasnt going to work i thought

[JBSpartan4life]

Originally Posted by Coached By Duffy

He was never going to qualify at a Big Ten school. It was all about academics and core classes. The MSU staff poured over his transcripts and saw there was no way he would qualify. SEC schools are much easier to qualify for entry than most conferences around the country along with the Big East and Big 12. MSU quickly arranged a visit by VA DE Clinton Simpkins for this week-end because they realized Drummond would never qualify.

Not True, his transcripts are not beautiful by any means but I've been told he can qualify but maybe not mid-year like he wanted.

Believe me looked at his scores before he drove 4 hours

you should really quit trying to derrive facts from internet here-say.

MSU has scheduled two visitors at the same position many times, you always need a back up plan

[JBSpartan4life]

Originally Posted by JOHNNYDRAMA08

That's a good point, Simpkins visit may be saying something about our status with Drummond. I still am not sure if he committed to Ole Miss. It hasn't been confirmed by a credible source yet that I have seen. He will qualify to a big ten school from what I have read. He tried to commit to a school within the college that had stronger requirements and they wouldn't accept him to that school from what I understand. I would think that he would be able to enroll at MSU into a different major and then switch his major later in the year. We should know soon whether he has committed to Ole Miss or if he is still considering MSU.

I doubt simpkins has anything to do with drummond, remember last weekend the staff had scheduled visits for nunez and buchanan.

I dont even think simpkins has an offer.

I believe everything else you wrote is true.

I'm not buying the super-prep article either. They don't scoop both scout and rivals very often

[MSUFB2009]

Drummond committed to Ole Miss.

http://www.prepstar.com/

[Stats]

Originally Posted by MSUFB2009

Drummond committed to Ole Miss.

PrepStar.com

A) I already posted that earlier in the thread
B) There's been an update since then on GSN that JohnnyDrama refers to above. I think PrepStar has some bad info.

[trash]

Originally Posted by MSUFB2009

Drummond committed to Ole Miss.

PrepStar.com

Nothing in that article confirms a commit.

[JOHNNYDRAMA08]

Originally Posted by JBSpartan4life

I doubt simpkins has anything to do with drummond, remember last weekend the staff had scheduled visits for nunez and buchanan.

I dont even think simpkins has an offer.

I believe everything else you wrote is true.

I'm not buying the super-prep article either. They don't scoop both scout and rivals very often

The difference with Buchanan and Nunez is that the staff had been recruiting them for months. Simpkins has come out of nowhere to get a visit. IMO, I have no information to back this up, but I think he will get an offer after his visit and commit soon after. Drummond could still visit, but there has been no source stating that he will.

I wouldn't have believed that article based on grammar mistakes alone. Drummond is still committed to Ill., but is interested in MSU, Ole Miss and Tenn. We should know in a few days if we will get a visit from Drummond.

[The Armchair Quarterback]

From some blog.

4. Defensive End Craig Drummond Jr. - A cjrrent commit to Ron Zook’s Illinois program, Drummond will be visiting [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Oxford[/COLOR][/COLOR] this weekfnd. Seeming ly out of nowhere, the Rebels began pursuing the Chicago native and Army All-American very recently. Rumor has that he would like to get a head-start on college and footbsll by enrolling erly and Ole Miss gives him a bbetter opportunity than Illinois to so so. Rumor xlso has it thqt Ron Zook informed Houston Nutt of this situation at the recent college [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]football[/COLOR][/COLOR] doaches convention. I don’t mnow how true either rumor actually is, but they’re both plausible.

[cummin95]

Originally Posted by The Armchair Quarterback

From some blog.

4. Defensive End Craig Drummond Jr. - A cjrrent commit to Ron Zook’s Illinois program, Drummond will be visiting [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Oxford[/COLOR][/COLOR] this weekfnd. Seeming ly out of nowhere, the Rebels began pursuing the Chicago native and Army All-American very recently. Rumor has that he would like to get a head-start on college and footbsll by enrolling erly and Ole Miss gives him a bbetter opportunity than Illinois to so so. Rumor xlso has it thqt Ron Zook informed Houston Nutt of this situation at the recent college [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]football[/COLOR][/COLOR] doaches convention. I don’t mnow how true either rumor actually is, but they’re both plausible.

LUkS RelIUBLE!

[Coached By Duffy]

Originally Posted by JBSpartan4life

Not True, his transcripts are not beautiful by any means but I've been told he can qualify but maybe not mid-year like he wanted.

Believe me looked at his scores before he drove 4 hours

you should really quit trying to derrive facts from internet here-say.

MSU has scheduled two visitors at the same position many times, you always need a back up plan

I do not derive facts from internet hear-say (hear-say spelled correctly) ! I still have contact with people who are around the Spartan Football Program on a daily basis.
My information about the Simpkins visit is rock solid !
Drummond would not qualify mid-year at any Big Ten school. He may qualify mid-year at an SEC school but the clock is ticking on winter classes. If he is allowed to re-take some core classes in HS he might be able to enroll in the spring but more likely in the fall. Another option for him is a semester at a prep school.

[staterules]

Originally Posted by Coached By Duffy

I do not derive facts from internet hear-say (hear-say spelled correctly) ! I still have contact with people who are around the Spartan Football Program on a daily basis.
My information about the Simpkins visit is rock solid !
Drummond would not qualify mid-year at any Big Ten school. He may qualify mid-year at an SEC school but the clock is ticking on winter classes. If he is allowed to re-take some core classes in HS he might be able to enroll in the spring but more likely in the fall. Another option for him is a semester at a prep school.

I dunno about that . . . The rules on prep school attendance in relationship to using prep school attendance to gain eligibility were changed recently such that it is a far less attractive option (the time spent counts against the 5 year eligibility calendar). Seems that if there was something definitive about his grades it would have been known by the MSU staff before visiting Drummond this week . . .but who knows?

Hopefully geography and the chance to have his family be able to easily attend all home games and ALL league games will appeal to Craig.

[Coached By Duffy]

Originally Posted by staterules

I dunno about that . . . The rules on prep school attendance in relationship to using prep school attendance to gain eligibility were changed recently such that it is a far less attractive option (the time spent counts against the 5 year eligibility calendar). Seems that if there was something definitive about his grades it would have been known by the MSU staff before visiting Drummond this week . . .but who knows?

Hopefully geography and the chance to have his family be able to easily attend all home games and ALL league games will appeal to Craig.

Yes, attending a prep school is probably the poorest option. I think this young man is probably in a real quandary about what to do right now. I'm sure Coach Dantonio will be very honest with him and will give him solid advice about his future.

[IlliniJ]

[quote=JOHNNYDRAMA08;5471074]

Originally Posted by IlliniJ

You believe too much of what you read on the internet. Ohio St started that "Zook has offered 200 kids" crap because of his success on their turf, and it's simply not true.

When compared to other schools and looking on any of the recruiting sites Ill. consistently offers many more prospects. This has worked well for Ill. Zook really seems to offer many players very early, resulting in being their first offer, to get an advantage. Though don't claim that this isn't a common practice by Zook. Many Illini fans have no problem with this because it has mostly worked, but don't deny the fact that he offers many prospects and offers them very early. Also, you don't have defend this practice because it has helped bring in good talent to Ill. even though the results haven't been there. Zook has done a good job recruiting at Ill. and continues to bring in good talent.

Oh, I'll deny it alright. Many of these "recruiting sites" don't have a clue who actually has an offer and who doesn't. I've seen countless claims of offers that turn out to be false, especially in Ohio. I'll agree he has offered some early, mainly to force Ohio St's hand, but the accounts of "hundreds of offers" simply isn't true.

[Mean Joe Green]

Scout talk from Senior Bowl, East-West Shrine Game -- chicagotribune.com

Illinois, meanwhile, lost perhaps its second-best recruit when Morgan Park defensive end Craig Drummond decommitted.

Published reports had Drummond vacillating, but his father, Craig Sr., left little doubt Friday. "Illinois is out," he said by phone.

Drummond would not elaborate on the reasons, including whether there was an academic issue. Drummond said his son already has graduated from Morgan Park with a 2.5 grade-point average and he scored a solid 22 on his ACT.

Drummond plans to visit Ole Miss, but he hasn't written off the Big Ten. Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio visited last week and made a terrific impression.

"Oh, man," Drummond Sr. said. "It was an awesome visit. I liked his sincerity and his passion."

[The Armchair Quarterback]

http://olemiss.rivals.com/barrier_no...fid=&tid=&mid=

Drummond on the front page of olemiss.rivals.com

[ClarkstonGreen]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports....column?page=2

Originally Posted by Mean Joe Green

Scout talk from Senior Bowl, East-West Shrine Game -- chicagotribune.com

oh, man!

Love it!

Love the fact the father is involved in the recruiting and is helping his son make an important decision in his life. Because of this, I suspect Ole Miss might be too far away............

I just moved my odds of getting this kid from "less than 10%" to 50%

The official visit, if we get one, and if his father comes along, could seal the deal.

Nice work, Coach D!

[Leave Cousins in!!]

**** yea I love it.

Come on seal the deal.

Mississippi is one of the ****iest states in the South.

[Spartan Pride]

Offers-wise, this would be MD's biggest pickup thus far. Was a 5* until scout most recently updated their rankings...

Not getting my hopes up yet though.

[ClarkstonGreen]

Originally Posted by Spartan Pride

Offers-wise, this would be MD's biggest pickup thus far. Was a 5* until scout most recently updated their rankings...

Not getting my hopes up yet though.

classic Scout........he's a five star through his entire senior year, even though he doesn't play a down due to a left foot injury. Then, when he plays in the Army All-American game and dare I say dominates, Scout drops him to a four star...........

[ClarkstonGreen]

man, I hope Rock Baker and Mr. Barrent are calling this kid left and right........hopefully, they had a chance to kick it in San Antonion together for the game........this could pay off huge right now..........

considering, it was the Army teammates that got him thinking about Ole Miss.......

[JBSpartan4life]

Originally Posted by Coached By Duffy

I do not derive facts from internet hear-say (hear-say spelled correctly) ! I still have contact with people who are around the Spartan Football Program on a daily basis.My information about the Simpkins visit is rock solid !

Drummond would not qualify mid-year at any Big Ten school. He may qualify mid-year at an SEC school but the clock is ticking on winter classes. If he is allowed to re-take some core classes in HS he might be able to enroll in the spring but more likely in the fall. Another option for him is a semester at a prep school.

Who are you Spartan Pride no one cares if you're friends with the janitor at the Skandalaris Center.

WOW so you knew about the simpkins visit from reading rivals and scout good for you.

The kids sporting a 2.5 gpa and a 22 ACT with all his core classes completed, that really should be good enough to work him in.

He wasn't accepted for his applied major at Illinois I know that. I know wouldn't be driving to chicago for an in home and giving him and his family the hard sell if getting him enrolled was in possible.

[49ers169]

Originally Posted by JBSpartan4life

Who are you Spartan Pride no one cares if you're friends with the janitor at the Skandalaris Center.

WOW so you knew about the simpkins visit from reading rivals and scout good for you.

The kids sporting a 2.5 gpa and a 22 ACT with all his core classes completed, that really should be good enough to work him in.

He wasn't accepted for his applied major at Illinois I know that. I know wouldn't be driving to chicago for an in home and giving him and his family the hard sell if getting him enrolled was in possible.

I just don't see how if he wants to enroll this semester he can come to MSU.

By the time his visit is complete we would have just completed 3 weeks worth of classes.

Unless you want to acknowledge that MSU is similar to U of M in regards to academics and athletes, it would be borderline insane for a kid to start the semester almost a month after classes have started.

I think if he comes to MSU he is going to enroll in the summer, if enrolling immediately is that important to him, Ole Miss is where he will go.

[ERR]

Originally Posted by 49ers169

I think if he comes to MSU he is going to enroll in the summer, if enrolling immediately is that important to him, Ole Miss is where he will go.

Putting myself in his situation, I would have to think of it like this: what is a few months when compared with a life-altering decision? I don't know what he and his family are thinking, but for me, enrolling early at this point would be a secondary consideration after making sure that I am at the right school for me. It's not really that long of a time to wait when considering it affects the entire course of your life. Hopefully he will feel that MSU is the right place for him and waiting a few months is worth it.