'09 IL DE Craig Drummond (Ole Miss Verbal)

Stats · 01-20-2009, 09:11 PM

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Craig Drummond

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Chicago (IL) Morgan Park
Ht: 6-foot-5
Wt: 260 lbs
Class: 2009 (High School)

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Position Ranking: 7

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<table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>Position: </td><td align="right">DE </td></tr></tbody></table><table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top">Year: </td><td valign="top" align="right">Class of 2009</td></tr></tbody></table><table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><nobr>High School:</nobr> </td><td valign="top" align="right">Morgan Park HS
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Size </td></tr></tbody></table></td><td valign="top" width="50%"><table width="100%" bgcolor="#cc0000" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffeeee"><td align="middle">AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td valign="center">

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Intensity/Effort </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td>Has a naturally large frame, long arms and big hands. Is very athletic and explodes off the ball. Has good closing speed, but doesn't always pursue downfield. As a pass rusher, his speed rush is very effective and he has the quick feet to get around defenders. When he gets to the ball carrier, he gets there in style, often delivering punishing hits. His upside is high, but he must play hard for 60 minutes to reach his full potential.</td></tr></tbody></table>
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<table style="border: 1px solid rgb(192, 192, 192);" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#e3e3e3">Biography:</td></tr><tr><td>Craig Drummond finished his junior season (All-State and All-City) with 67 tackles, 18 sacks, two fumbles caused and one touchdown on defense.
Through his team's first seven (4-3) games, Drummond has failed to play as a senior because of a high ankle sprain.
Drummond says he plans to major in business and reports a 2.5 core GPA and a 22 ACT. Drummond: "I have a lot of power and am a great run stopper. I can do it all. I'm just very quick and strong, but I still want to improve my backside pursuit. I also want to read plays better and will try and watch more film and prepare before every game." Asst Coach Brookshire - Craig ran the 60 yd dash in 6.2 on 2/1/2007, he runs 200m and 400m hurdles on the varsity team this year 2007, his sophomore track season.
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Craig Drummond | DE

Rank: #98

Hometown: Chicago, IL
Morgan Park High School
Position rank: DE # 7
Ht: 6'5" Wt: 260

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Evaluation / Notes On the Trail / Features

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Verbal

Scouts Grade

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Notes

Uncertainty regarding his commitment to Illinois. Quoted saying he would, and would not attend Illinois in mid-January 2009. Official Visits: Illinois - October 17th, Wisconsin - October 24th. No. 67-rated overall Class of 2009 prospect prior to injury senior year. 2008: Sat out senior year with a high ankle sprain. Sustained a broken foot in summer of 2008. 2007: Registered 22 sacks. All-state and all-area selection. Also being recruited by Miami, Ohio State, Florida, USC, Minnesota...

staterules · 01-20-2009, 11:02 PM

There are rumors that Coach D was in Chicago today visiting Drummond. Bring him home coach!!!!

Polo04CDs · 01-20-2009, 11:34 PM

We got plenty of room a for a talented guy like this at MSU. A January 30th visit would be a great way to end your recruiting process.

ClarkstonGreen · 01-20-2009, 11:52 PM

have you seen this guy's video? whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude is a monster stud........

this would be quite a way to wrap up this '09 recruiting class.......with a nice bow on top.

kid is a flat out stud on the edge.......combine him with Will Gholston and wowza!

come on up for a visit Mr. Drummond, E. Lansing is only a couple of hours north of Chicago and there are a TON of MSU alums in your fabulous city of Chicago......

ClarkstonGreen · 01-20-2009, 11:55 PM

take a look at this kid's video.........unreal.......FAST!

YouTube - #90 - Craig Drummond, Morgan Park H.S., 2007 Highlight Video

Stats · 01-21-2009, 12:12 AM

Meant to post this right after I made the thread, but I couldn't get into my own thread!

(thanks to whichever mod fixed it for me):

Doesn't get any more credible on free boards than diehard.

JOHNNYDRAMA08 · 01-21-2009, 12:29 AM

[quote=Polo04CDs;5465133]We got plenty of room a for a talented guy like this at MSU. A January 30th visit would be a great way to end your recruiting process.[/quote]

This tells me two things regarding MSU football. One, the coaches are willing to do everything necessary to bring in the talent needed (ie. Coach D in Chicago doing what he can to get Drummond). Two, that we REALLY need help at DE. Even if we get Gholston we need 2-3 more good prospects that can help. If we get the last visit, Jan. 30th, from Drummond it could get interesting. Scout changed his profile a few days ago to Ill., MSU and Ole Miss. Hopefully, we can get him to visit MSU and see the PT that is available.

The reason for his decommitment from Ill. is that he tried to enroll early and was denied, though he should be fine for the fall semester. Also, his recruiting coach has left for another position. These are the two reasons that I have read about. We should know more about where we stand after he visits Ole Miss this weekend. If we get a visit it will at least make it interesting for us around signing day.

ClarkstonGreen · 01-21-2009, 12:36 AM

[QUOTE=JOHNNYDRAMA08;5465309]

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Originally Posted by Polo04CDs

We got plenty of room a for a talented guy like this at MSU. A January 30th visit would be a great way to end your recruiting process.[/quote]

This tells me two things regarding MSU football. One, the coaches are willing to do everything necessary to bring in the talent needed (ie. Coach D in Chicago doing what he can to get Drummond). Two, that we REALLY need help at DE. Even if we get Gholston we need 2-3 more good prospects that can help. If we get the last visit, Jan. 30th, from Drummond it could get interesting. Scout changed his profile a few days ago to Ill., MSU and Ole Miss. Hopefully, we can get him to visit MSU and see the PT that is available.

The reason for his decommitment from Ill. is that he tried to enroll early and was denied, though he should be fine for the fall semester. Also, his recruiting coach has left for another position. These are the two reasons that I have read about. We should know more about where we stand after he visits Ole Miss this weekend. If we get a visit it will at least make it interesting for us around signing day.

Being an Army All-American, I wonder if Rock Baker or Barrent might have met him and be willing to give him a call........

Izztonio · 01-21-2009, 12:40 AM

He had a very good Army AA game. I believe he was going against Fluker the #1 OT in the country. We have the playing time a shot at the Big Ten title and still close enough to home for his parents to see him play. I don't know are chances but I won't put anything past Coach D. He is able to legitimately sell bigger dreams to the kids then he could this time last year.

ClarkstonGreen · 01-21-2009, 12:43 AM

uh, oh, what do you make of this article........says he's "still committed to Illinois"

Drummond: I'm still committed to Illinois -- chicagotribune.com

burnsmi4 · 01-21-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ClarkstonGreen

uh, oh, what do you make of this article........says he's "still committed to Illinois"

Drummond: I'm still committed to Illinois -- chicagotribune.com

nothing. Zook is a very aggressive recruiter that probably does some shaddy things here and there. the consequences of that are soft verbals and multiple visits to other schools. its ultimately up to the kid in what he wants from a school. i dont think Dantonio changes what he says to kids. gives them an honest answer as much as he can. maybe in the short run we wont steal a Drummond, but i would bet we will in the long run

JBSpartan4life · 01-21-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by StatsETC

Meant to post this right after I made the thread, but I couldn't get into my own thread!

(thanks to whichever mod fixed it for me):

Doesn't get any more credible on free boards than diehard.

wow the guy has a bunker membership so now all of a sudden he's an insider recruiting guru.

All he did was steal dorseys info and run to a free board with it.

Bailey1149 · 01-21-2009, 11:52 AM

somebody sent me something saying that he wont go to Illinios because of grades and has a visit to Ole Miss and potentially one at MSU on the 31st or something. Also that USC is back in the mix.

This is just what I was told, so kinda take it as it is, no real reliable source so ya...

but if we got this kid, it would really really make this class from good to great.

JOHNNYDRAMA08 · 01-21-2009, 12:48 PM

Here's a link and the article of an interview and an opinion of an Ill. insider:

http://www.illinihq.com/chats/...day/#submitform

OK, here is the latest word on Craig, per the Asmussen's HQ chat today.

"Let me tell you what I think happened based on talking to some of those folks close to Craig.
First, he graduated early from Chicago Morgan Park with the hope of enrolling early at Illinois. When that didn't happen, he decided to look for other spring options, which include Mississippi, Syracuse and Michigan State.
Houston Nutt came to Chicago on Monday and had a great visit with Craig. Craig will be in Oxford later this week. If I had to guess, I think it is very possible he signs with the Rebels and enrolls right away.
However, if he can't get into Mississippi or Michigan State at the semester, then I think Illinois gets back in the picture.
The problem for Drummond is that because he is out of school now, he wants to begin college. The last thing the Drummond family wants is for Craig to have to stay at home for the next few months while waiting to go to college. But if that becomes necessary, they will do it.
When I talked to Craig, I asked him specifically, "Does Illinois remain a possibility?" He said yes. I know there are different reports out there about Craig, but all I can go by is what he said to me. I'm not going to take the word of another source when I talked to Craig myself.
One thing that I didn't put in the story was the answer Craig gave when I asked him "What do you think about the recruiting business?" and he said "It's pretty stressful."
We have to remember that these are 18-year-olds making life choices with a whole lot of outside pressure. I feel sorry for him in this case because I think he is dealing with the situation in the best way possible. He didn't rip the Illinois coaches. In fact, he had nice things to say about them.
And he made it clear that the departure of Tom Sims didn't force his decommit. But, from what I understand, had Coach Sims stayed, it would have been another selling point for Illinois. The two had apparently developed a good relationship."

If he can enroll to MSU still I like our chances. Sounds like he wants to go to school now and begin to prepare for next season. His grades aren't an issue with enrolling, he has a 23 ACT, GPA is around 2.5-2.7. I believe this is good enough for an athlete to get in. He didn't get accepted to Ill. due to the school he tried to get into, but he could probably enroll to another school within the college and then switch into the major he wants to pursue after a year. We should know more in a few days to see if MSU will get a visit.

SpartyFever · 01-21-2009, 02:08 PM

Drummond would be a great get no doubt but if grades are such an issue at a school like Illinois this can't bode well for getting accepted into Michigan State either so he is close to qualifying or what's the case?

My first post and...

GO SPARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fritzdude · 01-21-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ClarkstonGreen

uh, oh, what do you make of this article........says he's "still committed to Illinois"

Drummond: I'm still committed to Illinois -- chicagotribune.com

I thought there was a "gentlemen's" agreement not to recruit players that have already verballed to another school. What's the protocol on this for other coaches?
Is this fair play or would UI consider this stealing their recruits...?

IMO - if this kid wants to keep his options open, he should pull his verbal.

pornstar jim · 01-21-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartyFever

Drummond would be a great get no doubt but if grades are such an issue at a school like Illinois this can't bode well for getting accepted into Michigan State either so he is close to qualifying or what's the case?

My first post and...

GO SPARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

As posted before, it looks like he did not get into the particular study he was trying to get into. If the 2.5-2.7 and 23 ACT is accurate he is definately qualified. Might just have to pick a different area to start out his education.

Would be a HUGE get for MD if he could pull it off though. He has great film and moves very well for a big guy.

ClarkstonGreen · 01-21-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritzdude

I thought there was a "gentlemen's" agreement not to recruit players that have already verballed to another school. What's the protocol on this for other coaches?
Is this fair play or would UI consider this stealing their recruits...?

IMO - if this kid wants to keep his options open, he should pull his verbal.

says he wants to "look around"........that means he's wide open.

no issue.

Fritzdude · 01-21-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ClarkstonGreen

says he wants to "look around"........that means he's wide open.

no issue.

I can see where this gets a little dicey... it's kind of like getting engaged but telling your fiancé that you're still open to dating other people.

If that's the case - don't get engaged.

For perspective, I imagine everyone would be getting all riled up if RR was planning to visit Dion Sims this weekend and try to get him to change his mind.

msuferd · 01-21-2009, 03:15 PM

I can't see how it's really the "other" schools fault.

The kid wants to start college right away, but the school he chose, won't let him.

His only option is to look around.

IlliniJ · 01-21-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by burnsmi4

nothing. Zook is a very aggressive recruiter that probably does some shaddy things here and there. the consequences of that are soft verbals and multiple visits to other schools.

You realize he had already committed to Illinois, but appears unable to be accepted to UI for Jan enrollment. You consider this "shaddy[sic]"?

I'd guess he's more likely to head off to an SEC school like Ole Miss if he really wants to start college immediately, otherwise he'll probably wait and see if he can get into Illinois or another B10 school in the fall.

ClarkstonGreen · 01-21-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritzdude

I can see where this gets a little dicey... it's kind of like getting engaged but telling your fiancé that you're still open to dating other people.

If that's the case - don't get engaged.

For perspective, I imagine everyone would be getting all riled up if RR was planning to visit Dion Sims this weekend and try to get him to change his mind.

your RR hypothetical is FAR different.......Dion has not come out and said "he is looking around" like Drummond did........Dion, conversely said, "I'm committed and my recruitment is over".........HUGE difference.

ClarkstonGreen · 01-21-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ClarkstonGreen

your RR hypothetical is FAR different.......Dion has not come out and said "he is looking around" like Drummond did........Dion, conversely said, "I'm committed and my recruitment is over".........HUGE difference.

burnsmi4 · 01-21-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniJ

You realize he had already committed to Illinois, but appears unable to be accepted to UI for Jan enrollment. You consider this "shaddy[sic]"?

I'd guess he's more likely to head off to an SEC school like Ole Miss if he really wants to start college immediately, otherwise he'll probably wait and see if he can get into Illinois or another B10 school in the fall.

he is shaddy for a lot more reasons then just this. hell, drummond has been quoted as basically saying the same thing. im ok with your program being dirty. it doesnt bother me.

Stats · 01-21-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JBSpartan4life

wow the guy has a bunker membership so now all of a sudden he's an insider recruiting guru.

All he did was steal dorseys info and run to a free board with it.

He posts a lot of stuff before it gets to the bunker, if you get my drift. Not the case this time of course, but his track record is pretty damn good.