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Old 11-01-2007, 02:20 PM   #196 (permalink)
cickyle
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Originally Posted by Heathens '87 View Post
It's pretty simple - I don't think Todd Jones is a better option at closer than Joe Borowski. I also don't think Borowski is a better option than Todd. They're both mediocre and arguing which one is "more bad" actually bolsters the strength of my position.

I'd actually argue that the only reason is wasn't more of an issue in 2007 for either team is because they're both in the Central. Either team would've been motivated to upgrade last year had they been in any other division.

Heading into '08, both teams need to upgrade at the position. If Jones is back in Detroit, it's as a hand-cuff for Zumaya. The Indians will likely hand-cuff someone to Borowski as well if they bring him back. Both are Plan B closers, at best, for a playoff team......

I don't disagree with what you think will actually happen, but the logic that the Indians and Tigers kept Borowski and Jones around because of the division is laughable. The division is the exact reason that they would want better closers. They were in the TOUGHEST division in baseball which is even more of a reason to try and get a top flight closer because you have to face such tough competition so often.

This is just a hunch but I bet Borowski and Jones would have had better numbers had they been on the Angels, Red Sox or Yankees because they would have been closing out games against the Rangers, A's, D Rays, Jays and O's instead of the W Sox, Twins, Indians, tigers and Royals (who had a good 2nd half). That is another example of why the numbers can be deceving.
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