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Old 11-06-2007, 02:33 PM   #83 (permalink)
oscar novak
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This is the stupidest, most disingenuous argument for waterboarding I've seen. It's so incredibly obvious that the torture line is crossed dependent on how rigorously the technique is applied. If you think the technique experienced by our pilots during training is the same level that may be applied in captivity ... well, then you're an idiot.
Uhhh, the author of the quote said if it's the same. Can't we assume that he also thinks it shouldn't be used if it is not the same? Am I still and idiot? Please, oh please tell me I'm not - it is very important to me that you think I'm not an idiot!

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BTW, you do understand that when Assistant Attorney General Lavin went thru a trial waterboarding, as research, and was in the process of officially classifying the technique as torture, based on his experience .... he was fired by the W admin ... right?
Did not know that. Would appreciate a link so I can read for myself what happened and what his current position is. I Googled "attorney general lavin" and got no results. A first name will help, I can look from there. TIA
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