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Old 02-16-2008, 12:15 PM   #41 (permalink)
Frank Ricard
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Originally Posted by Mr. Tanfan View Post
Frank, I never said there weren't exceptions. You are going to have those years like Kansas had, where everything seems to work out perfectly with lesser talent. However, schools like USC, Michigan, OSU, LSU, Florida are consistently attracting the best talent and are always good. Yeah, they may have a bad year or two, players get injured, but for the most part, they have the most depth because of the quality of their classes.

If MSU had recruited like Saban did in Bama this year, that article never would have been posted. Fact is, Spartan fans are looking for any information to improve their disappointment with our coaching staff's inability to recruit as well as the big boys. If that article makes you feel better, well good.

I agree with most of the examples you give - USC, LSU, Florida, OSU. UM is one of the most overrated teams relative to their recuiting rankings there is. UM is maybe a Top 15 program, but not near a top 10 and obviously not a National title contender, although they like to think they are. I don't fear Michigan. Outside of Notre Dame, Um is the most fraudulent team there is in CF, especially the last 7-8 years.

My posts were based on facts that shows about a 67% disparity between what the recuiting rankings were and then seeing how close those rankings came to actual results. It's not subjective; it's cold hard numbers. Again, no arguement with USC, OSU, LSU and I'll give you Florida (although they were not a Top 10 team this year - I'm not going to argue against them - it's still a damn good program with a lot of upside). But those are the EXCEPTIONS - they fall in the 33%, not the 67%.

You mentioned Kansas. Maybe Kansas is a one hit wonder, who knows. But next year if they do fall, another program will jump in the top 10 out of nowhere to make up for it. Two seasons ago it was Boise State, this past year Kansas, next year somebody else that had recuiting rankings averaging in the 30's and 40's, which defines teams composed of 2 and 3*'s will break in the Top 10 and maybe go to a BCS bowl game.

If you believe in the hype of the 4/5 star, then don't lists the schools where it rings true like a USC. Explain Mizzou, Boston College, West Virginia, and Va Tech. Then also explain how a University of Miami that typically year after year has top ranked classes can't even break .500. Explain how a Florida State has fallen of the CF map. Lastly, explain a how a program like Notre Dame that has had two top 10 classes along with another ranked 12th. And even Navy beat them.

I didn't make anything up to make me feel better. Maybe Dantonio is completely failing in the recuiting battles. Maybe he isn't. I don't know, BUT NEITHER DOES RIVALS AND YOU CAN'T BASE YOUR OPINION ON HOW RECUITING IS GOING BASED ON A FLAWED SYSTEM THAT'S WRONG 2 OUT OF 3 TIMES.

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