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For the second one- that seems to me to be quite honest a ******ed hypothetical-
The idea that a version of the movie exists yet the creators or the rights owners and they are not releasing does not mean you can go around copy right laws--it is a decision they make.
The argument follows this- there's a picture of your favorite actor/artist/whatever on their cellphone, should you have access to it? It's ridiculous.
The owners have the HD version for themselves and if they see fit they'll release to the market. It's still their property and not yours. You have no right to download/hack/steal that and it should be illegal.
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**** me for giving up on this team and posting "ball game" over and over again.
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Tanfan on 2008 Football (game against Wisconsin)
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