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Originally Posted by mrob

I can't figure out if you are naive or obtuse.

Perhaps I'm neither, and the problem stems from you?

You argue that someone who "takes too long" to release a higher quality version of their movie forfeits their rights to the product--and that you should be able to pirate an HD copy because they didn't provide it on your timeline?

No, I never said anything of the sort. What I did say was that the movie industry moves slowly because they don't want to keep up with innovation, because it costs them money. In the meantime, there are ways to watch the content in a higher-quality form. So if someone has the most recent version they made available, and fully intends to buy the new version when it is available, should they have to just sit around and wait 5-7 years for them to release it, despite the fact that they could obtain it today?

And the root of the question was simply, could it even be constituted as copyright infringement, when there isn't even a product this copy was obtained from to begin with? At best, I would suppose you could call it copyright infringement because the source was taken from cable television, but that's more of a stretch, and introduces even murkier waters.

And you are seriously trying to parse the difference between copyright infringement and illegality?

Well, considering one has to do with a civil offense, and the other a criminal offense, yeah, I'd say it's pretty God damned important to make that distinction.

I'll bet money that you would be the first one going to court if you found someone had pirated a copy of Camtasia. Hypocrite.

Well firstly, I wouldn't be in the position to do that, as I am not the appointed legal representative for that scenario.

More importantly though, this has very little relation to do with what I was speaking of. In that case, they would not have paid for the software. What I am saying revolves around having already purchased the product in question. If you're simply downloading movies that you have not made any attempt to purchase when a viable option to purchase is available, then yes, that is certainly copyright infringement, and as such, the content owners would have the right to bring a case against you, if they found that to be in their best interest.

P.S. Glad you took the time to browse my site!

You are coming off like a whiny baby with this "argument." "I want my high-def version of "Star Wars," and I want it right now!"

A whiny baby? I simply put forth an interesting scenario that has no precedent set for it in legislation or judicial regards. My main point overall is to demonstrate how behind the times copyright law is, and these points are just two of the more interesting of many ways by which to do this.