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Old 05-14-2008, 01:39 PM   #33 (permalink)
One Eyed Jack
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Originally Posted by ISparticus View Post
Last night, I was at a Friday's having dinner with a friend of mine who happened to be black. We're friends, not dating and no relationship.

As we sat there, two unattractive white women sat sneering at us from a table next to us.

I heard "...take all the good men..."

And a lot of other racially charged comments. Luckily for them, my friend didn't hear them. (I have hyper-active hearing and I can hear **** like this all the time). That would have been an ugly scene and they would have looked like even bigger *******s than they were.

Have we really come anywhere in race relations? These women were about 28-35...so it's not like they were from the Brown V. Board of Education days. They've been raised in a society that encourages inclusion and tolerance of differences.

I was shocked. As I left, I looked directly at them and towards them. One of them got pissed, one of them buried her head in shame.

So, tRCMB...what's the deal? Do we talk a good game but don't follow through with it?

Does anyone here...honestly...have a problem with two people of different "races" and sexes having dinner together?
You'd be surprised at how much this thing happens. I remember when my ex wife and I went to the Denny's off of Grand River (1994--ish) one Sunday morning. We were talking about something when we noticed that an entire family sitting at the table next to us was watching us and listening to our conversation. They could not stop looking at us to the point where it was a little uncomfortable. They were a white family from BFE probably visiting their son for the weekend.

We both stopped talking and looked at the family for about 20 seconds (not saying a word) until they got the message to mind their own business.

When I first started dating my ex wife (in 1991), it was very uncommon for a black woman to date a white guy. It was way more common to see a white woman with a black guy. Now it isn't that uncommon to see a black woman with a white guy. Which is really cool. If I had a dollar for every stranger who walked past us, in a mall or on the street, singing "Jungle Fever,"; I'd a rich man now.

There are a lot of people who have problems with biracial relationships. In the African American community, some folks involved with someone from a different race is either looked upon as a "sellout," "someone with 'low self-esteem," "oreo," or (my personal favorite and one my wife was called several times--)"race traitor" etc...Plenty of black women are threatened by black guys going out with white women because there "are so few black men available for black women as it is" and, on the flip side, a lot of white guys feel threatened when white women date black guys.

White guys involved with black women, according to some black folks, have subconscious race/slave fantasies and/or they are trying to prove something to people.
It never can be for the fact that two people just like each other.

Gotta admit though that this is the first time I have heard of white women getting angry with black women for being with a white guy. Doesn't surprise me since this was the same thing black women had been saying about black men who date or marry white women for the past 50 or so years.

Biracial relationships even more common now and it's getting almost like a norm. And this is proof that even in our lifetime, things between the races have gotten better. Still have a ways to go, but it is better, I think. I think as long as your intentions are not because of sexual curiosity or a hidden agenda, biracial relationships are healthy. You still have to deal with a lot of baggage from both races, but if folks are genuine in their feelings, then it's worth all the crap biracial couples go through.

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