06-17-2008, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Detroiter
No, completely wrong. Lidstrom is the best defenseman because he didn't have any competition. The players mentioned were great, but they are nowhere near as great as Gretzky, Mario, Messier, Yzerman, Sakic, Jagr, Forsberg, etc. Yzerman wasn't the best forward in the league mainly because of Gretzky and Mario, but also because of his knee injuries. It also didn't help that he played with minor league caliber players for the first 8 years of his career. The team was lousy for more than 3 years, try 8 years. Without Yzerman that team weren't have even become good at all.
You are very biased because Lidstrom is your favorite player. Lidstrom is my favorite too, but that doesn't keep me from being too blind to see that Yzerman was better. If Lidstrom was truly the better player then Illitch wouldn't have retired Yzerman's number first. He would've waited until after retiring Lidstrom's number.
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Yzerman's my favorite player. Doesn't mean that I think he was a lot better -- or better at all -- than Lidstrom.
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