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Originally Posted by Detroiter
Hatcher, Nediermayer, and Pronger. Not sure of the years. Those guys really aren't all that great anyways and aren't really competition. Let me put it to you this way, out of Lidstrom's competition how many of those defenseman fall in the top 30 greatest players of all-time? Only Bourque. Out of Yzerman's competition, how many of those players fall in the top 30? Gretzky, Mario, Messier, Sakic, Jagr, Forsberg, etc.
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Show me why Hatcher, Niedemayer and Pronger were better defensemen than Lidstrom. Conveniently, you don't know the years and you keep clinging to your own contradiction that players that were not very good were better than Lidstrom, even though you admit Lidstrom was the the best. Is Lidstrom the best of the defensemen in the last 10 years or is he not? It's a simple question.
Show me a list of Top 30 players all-time. Where is that list? You do realize, don't you, that list will have more forwards on it than defensemen?
Lidstrom, at age 37, not only won his 6th Norris Trophy, he was second in the NHL in plus/minus rating of plus 40, one point behind Pavel Datsyuk. The next closest guy was a plus 33. Lidstrom had 70 points, more scoring than most forwards. If you cannot admit that he is, in the latter stages of his career, a dominant player, you are extremely misinformed. The guy is a ****ing machine.
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