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Originally Posted by Z.Cavaricci
There are so many things wrong in this thread it kills me.
#1 - Yzerman having his jersey retired has nothing to do with being or not being better than Lidstrom
#2 - Nick plays more minutes than almost anyone in the league. Making that statement that he is out of position a lot is so far off. People around the NHL praise Nick because he is always in the right position.
#3 - Ask around the NHL and see what they say about Nick. You will hear nothing more than "He is one of the best players in the history of the NHL" Even Don Cherry admits that.
If Nick Lidstroms career ended today, he would go down as being one of the greatest D men of all time. BUT....he would not have been considered to have a better career than Yzerman. If he stays on this team and in the league up until 40 years old...the argument can be made.
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QFT. And the best one.....Lidstrom is a selfish player
I cannot think of why any sane person would say that (Detroiter...catch my drift?
) Lids has never campained for any award, never demanded anything from the team, has stayed away from the camera and is only becoming a focus now b/c Stevie has retired and people are finally realizing how great he has been over 15 years.
What's remarkable is how often you see forwards beat other defensemen but when it finally happens to Nick, we all notice and remember it since it's so extraordinary.
Seriously, one of the best arguments you can make is that Nick has played with guys such as Murph (at the end of his career basically being cut from the Leafs), Lilja (can you imagine having him as your D-partner on the top line and still performing at an elite level?) and now Rafalski (who was obviously good before) that suddenly have career years.
Also, Lids was what 4th in MVP voting (very rare for a D-man to rank that high) at age 37?
Stevie was a GREAT player and IMO Lids has reached that same level and is likely to surpass it if he plays another 2-3 years.