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Old 06-26-2008, 04:48 PM   #3011 (permalink)
Chitown_Badger
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Originally Posted by Donnyrotten View Post
The quotes i cited in that post are directly from the Nist report.

The fact is, NOWHERE did they find any temps hot enough to melt steel.All you have to do is read the report (like i have)to see it.


The LATEST Nist revision to the cause is quite "out there". Now they say that dislodged fireproofing from the impact area is why things gave way

Seriously, read the report. Thats exactly what they are telling us now. Remember those beams and steel met 2000 degree temps for two hours unfireproofed just to meet code(they performed perfectly). No fire burned two hours, nothing got anywhere near 2000 degrees.Hydrocarbon fires cant and dont burn that hot.

So how does Nist test for dislodged fireproofing to back they're story?

They shoot a 12 gauge shotgun into a plywood box 15 times coated with fireproofing. Thats exactly how. Google it and get an education
Quote:
JET A-1
Flash point: 38 °C (100.4 °F)
Autoignition temperature: 210 °C (410 °F)
Freezing point: −47 °C (-52.6 °F). (−40 °C (-40°F) for JET A)
Open air burning temperatures: 287.5 °C (549.5 °F)
Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C (1796 °F)
Density at 15 °C (59 °F): 0.8075 kg/L
Pretty darn close...the beams were significantly weakened.
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