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Old 08-14-2008, 11:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Vlad_the_Impaler View Post
My point was this: Any nation that has veto power in the UN has the power to invade any other nation, justified or not! (And as far as justification goes, there are two sides to every story. Russia has a much different version of what's going on in Georgia.) The fact is, when one of these "veto nations" invades or takes any other kind of military action, there ain't a whole lot any other nation can do about it, short of starting a war. This is especially true for the good ol' US of A, now that we've overthrown a leader and installed our own government.

A few other points:

1. For those who think that Georgia has a "democratically elected government", you may want to read up a little bit. The election of Saalikashvile was more heavily disputed than the election of Dubya over Gore.

2. If you think the US of A is not interested in land grabs, thing again. We're not into annexing other nations, but once we invade a nation, we never really leave. There will always be a US miltary presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the "democratically elected governments" of these two nations will be puppets of the US for the forseable future.
You are wrong about point #2. Yes, we likely will have a permanent military presence in Afganistan.

However, we will NOT have a permanent military presence in Iraq, unless it is with the Kurds in a split of what is now Iraq. That is still a possiblity. Much is yet to play out in Iraq as regards to its final shape. The current Iraqi government is pretty much a failure, although you won't hear much about it. Kirkuk is a major dilema which has already caused the originally scheduled October Iraqi provincial elections to be postponed into a yet to be determined date in 2009 (bet most people don't have a clue about that little development).

Funny, but as it stands, If a central Iraq "unity" government succeeds, the U.S. military will be OUT, period. If the country becomes split into 3 entities, either totally seperate or as semi-autonomous states in a weak federal goverment, the U.S. might be able to work out a deal with the Kurds to maintain a military presence.

Watch and see. Lots of interesting developments going on beneath the surface in Iraq that 99.9% of Americans haven't a CLUE about.
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