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Old 08-19-2008, 01:24 AM   #36 (permalink)
Jacks Smirking Revenge
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Originally Posted by IndoSpartan View Post
I'm against killing JSR. I would be against killing doctors and women. You are right it would be difficult to police miscarriages. We could stop abortions in some states and the sale of morning after pills. If people break the law then they should face the consequences... same with those that engage in civil disobedience by preventing abortions.

All women are poor JSR and discriminated against. I am tired of society pressuring poor women to kill their babies. My moral stand is based on money and geography? That's why I give to Right to Life? Where's your middle ground JSR?

I want all abortions stopped. I want all killing stopped. I seem to have no voice on other people's lives or what goes on in my country in this except I have validity when it comes to my taxes so that is where I am approaching it.
It's fine to say that if people break the law, they should face the consequences - no one is arguing with that. But if your proposed laws give zygotes the same consideration that current laws give you and me, the result would include killing doctors and women. First degree murder is a capital crime.

You also seem to have a pretty cavalier attitude about investigating miscarriages. It wouldn't just be difficult from a law-enforcement standpoint, it would also be extremely rough on women who suffer miscarriages and then would have to suffer police interrogations. They'd also lose their right to a private patient-doctor relationship.

None of this bothers you, just as long as you can stop some abortions in some states. You claim you're taking some sort of middle ground, but all you're doing is targeting all women - hoping to scare some and criminalize others. It's a scattershot approach and it won't work.

Your support of "Right to Life" is just being used to get mostly right-wing candidates elected. With Republicans owning all three branches of government for the first six years of Bush's presidency, the abortion rate still didn't go down. It may have eased your conscience, but it's not having any effect on abortions.

The reality is that abortion is impossible to eliminate. Even if abortion were illegal, women would still have abortions, and most wouldn't get caught. If you want to lower the abortion rate, concentrate on eliminating some of the reasons women get abortions: unwanted pregnancy, lack of medical insurance, difficulty for single moms to work and raise children, etc.

Unlike you, I don't pretend to have a middle ground. Criminalizing women and doctors, depriving them of privacy, and putting government into the uterus is unacceptable to me. Helping women prevent unwanted pregnancy and eliminating the obstacles of having children is the most reasonable and effective strategy.

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