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Originally Posted by Jack's Smirking Revenge
It's fine to say that if people break the law, they should face the consequences - no one is arguing with that. But if your proposed laws give zygotes the same consideration that current laws give you and me, the result would include killing doctors and women. First degree murder is a capital crime.
You also seem to have a pretty cavalier attitude about investigating miscarriages. It wouldn't just be difficult from a law-enforcement standpoint, it would also be extremely rough on women who suffer miscarriages and then would have to suffer police interrogations. They'd also lose their right to a private patient-doctor relationship.
None of this bothers you, just as long as you can stop some abortions in some states. You claim you're taking some sort of middle ground, but all you're doing is targeting all women - hoping to scare some and criminalize others. It's a scattershot approach and it won't work.
Your support of "Right to Life" is just being used to get mostly right-wing candidates elected. With Republicans owning all three branches of government for the first six years of Bush's presidency, the abortion rate still didn't go down. It may have eased your conscience, but it's not having any effect on abortions.
The reality is that abortion is impossible to eliminate. Even if abortion were illegal, women would still have abortions, and most wouldn't get caught. If you want to lower the abortion rate, concentrate on eliminating some of the reasons women get abortions: unwanted pregnancy, lack of medical insurance, difficulty for single moms to work and raise children, etc.
Unlike you, I don't pretend to have a middle ground. Criminalizing women and doctors, depriving them of privacy, and putting government into the uterus is unacceptable to me. Helping women prevent unwanted pregnancy and eliminating the obstacles of having children is the most reasonable and effective strategy.
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Obviously if you change the abortion law you have the same ability to change the existing laws and come up with a fair punishment for those that break the law. Abortion is as impossible to eliminate, as is murder, as is drug abuse, as is theft, as is speeding... and yes I am and will do what I can to help women with their babies. Scattershot is what we do with all crime isn't it?
I read on one site (an abortion one) that said 1/2 the pregnancies in America are unwanted. Whether they are wanted or not means NOTHING to me... people are formed and alive and deserve to be wanted and loved. Ask me how many children I wanted? Ask me how many I would kill for a little more convenience and personal freedom? The answer to both is 0. I love my kids and I wouldn't trade them for anything. I take responsibility for all my actions.
I also know plenty of women who have tried to have children and continue to miscarry. You know what the insurance company calls someone that miscarries 3 times... a "habitual aborter". Privacy? You're kidding, right?
You know nothing about my support to Right to Life. Think locally JSR.
Are you saying you have no middle ground or that I am pretending to have a middle ground? I haven't criminalized any one JSR. I am not putting the government into anyone's uterus... in fact I want them out! The abortion business is alive and well in America. Cavalier? What do you call your attitude to the 40 million aborted?
How are you preventing unwanted pregnancies? Education? It would seem most people in America know where babies come from...at least more than when my parents were growing up; and so with this wealth of knowledge we have seen a drop in pregnancies? You are right to mention privacy as this is the basis of Roe vs. Wade... a privacy law. You really think that is the original intent of the privacy law... providing abortions on demand? Let me say it again. I am against killing of people.