tOfficial 2010 Football Recruiting thread

[Coached By Duffy]

Originally Posted by MD4Prez

I agree. Looking through some early lists, DT might be an issue throughout the Midwest, not just in Michigan. Very important that Hankins drops some weight and impresses at camp. I think DT's might be hard to come by in 2010 as well. At least at this early juncture.

DT is a tough position to fill every year and there is a premium on getting the type of athletes you need to fill this position. You need big, athletic kids with quickness who can get a "push" up the middle on the pass rush, pursue down the line of scrimmage and also have the strength to anchor against the run. That's why many of the big kids coming out of HS end up on the OL, because athleticism isn't as important.

[burnsmi4]

OSU is having their junior day this weekend. i am not sure if they get to go to the MSU/OSU basketball game but i hope they do. that way they can witness a MSU win

[Coached By Duffy]

Originally Posted by JOHNNYDRAMA08

I agree that the 2010 class is very important in terms of getting the right players to fit the teams needs and add depth. Though every player listed above is in either MI, OH or Ind. The midwest is loaded at WR, DB and OL in 2010. The DB year may be down compared to 2009, but OH and Ind. have some great prospects. MI has at least 3 that could get major offers as well. MSU will only need to add 1 more LB to this class and they could soon with Gray. Also, Snow may be a LB and OH has some more good prospects at the LB position. This class could be just as good or better than the 2009 class.

MSU had a banner year in 2009 for in-state recruiting with commitments from 10 of the top 11 players in-state (according to Rivals). Eight of these ten are 4* players. The 2009 class in-state was one of the best and deepest in several years. Currently, the 2010 class in-state doesn't appear to be as deep with quality players as the 2009 class. Of course, some of these Juniors may have "break-out" Senior seasons, thus improving the depth of the 2010 in-state class. I still think MSU is going to have to score some top out-of-state recruits to continue the recruiting momentum and match the 2009 class.

[Randolph Junuh]

Originally Posted by Coached By Duffy

MSU had a banner year in 2009 for in-state recruiting with commitments from 10 of the top 11 players in-state (according to Rivals).

I can't see the new rankings,who is no longer in the top 11?

Will Campbell?
James Jackson?
Cam Gordon?

[Big M]

Originally Posted by Randolph Junuh

I can't see the new rankings,who is no longer in the top 11?

Will Campbell?
James Jackson?
Cam Gordon?

I think he's using SpartanMag's completely unbiased and reasonable ratings.

Using the recent Rivals 250, there are at least 3 of the top 6 going to schools other than MSU (Campbell, Jackson, C. Gordon).

[Big M]

Originally Posted by Coached By Duffy

The 2009 class in-state was one of the best and deepest in several years. Currently, the 2010 class in-state doesn't appear to be as deep with quality players as the 2009 class. Of course, some of these Juniors may have "break-out" Senior seasons, thus improving the depth of the 2010 in-state class. I still think MSU is going to have to score some top out-of-state recruits to continue the recruiting momentum and match the 2009 class.

Agree. The top talent in-state seems to be very very good, but I'm a bit doubtful that it will have the depth of 4 star kids that Michigan had this year.

[Coached By Duffy]

Originally Posted by Randolph Junuh

I can't see the new rankings,who is no longer in the top 11?

Will Campbell?
James Jackson?
Cam Gordon?

The rankings are from Rivals Post Season state of Michigan Player Rankings based on each player's performance during their Senior season.
Campbell # 12
C. Gordon # 14
Jackson # 21

[Randolph Junuh]

Originally Posted by Coached By Duffy

The rankings are from Rivals Post Season state of Michigan Player Rankings based on each player's performance during their Senior season.
Campbell # 12
C. Gordon # 14
Jackson # 21

I think those are the SpartanMag rankings. Rivals is currently updating their state of Michigan post season rankings.

[Big M]

Originally Posted by Randolph Junuh

I think those are the SpartanMag rankings. Rivals is currently updating their state of Michigan post season rankings.

Correct

[Gods03]

Originally Posted by Big M

Correct

Campbell will be #1 on the Rivals rankings, especially if they honor the final rivals250 list.

Big Will is overrated, although I don't think he's 12th, probably more like third or fourth. Baker & Norman are superior, maybe Treadwell also.

[Coached By Duffy]

Originally Posted by Big M

I think he's using SpartanMag's completely unbiased and reasonable ratings.

Using the recent Rivals 250, there are at least 3 of the top 6 going to schools other than MSU (Campbell, Jackson, C. Gordon).

Why are you hUMmer's Club members skulking on a MSU forum ? If you don't like SpartanMag, don't post on an MSU forum. Go to the hUMmer's club forums and whine !

[Big M]

Originally Posted by Gods03

Campbell will be #1 on the Rivals rankings, especially if they honor the final rivals250 list.

Big Will is overrated, although I don't think he's 12th, probably more like third or fourth. Baker & Norman are superior, maybe Treadwell also.

Yeah, it's up now. WC #1, Jackson 5, Gordon 6, then the rest are Spartans. Full kudos to Dantonio for an excellent job in-state.

[JOHNNYDRAMA08]

Originally Posted by burnsmi4

OSU is having their junior day this weekend. i am not sure if they get to go to the MSU/OSU basketball game but i hope they do. that way they can witness a MSU win

I thought the same thing, though this is OSU's second junior day I believe.

Originally Posted by Coached By Duffy

MSU had a banner year in 2009 for in-state recruiting with commitments from 10 of the top 11 players in-state (according to Rivals). Eight of these ten are 4* players. The 2009 class in-state was one of the best and deepest in several years. Currently, the 2010 class in-state doesn't appear to be as deep with quality players as the 2009 class. Of course, some of these Juniors may have "break-out" Senior seasons, thus improving the depth of the 2010 in-state class. I still think MSU is going to have to score some top out-of-state recruits to continue the recruiting momentum and match the 2009 class.

From what I have read and heard the 2010 in-state class should be better. Gardner, Gholston and White could be 5 star prospects (I'm not saying they will be but they have the potential). Bolden and Boisture are most likely elite 11 bound, with Gardner. RB Nick Hill is in the rivals 250 watch list. DE CJ Olaniyan is in the top 6 for Allen Trieu, making him a Scout 4 star. Johnathon Hankins and Tremondae Branch both could garner BCS offers. Jeremy Jackson (UM) and Brandon Banks could be 4 star receivers. Max Bullough (MSU) and Austin Gray could be 4 star LB's. CB Dior Mathis is most likely a top 100 player and CB Mylan Hicks could be a 4 star player. Colvin Voss is a solid TE. There are some good OL that could get some good offers. I'm not saying all of these players will get offers, but they are getting some major interest right now. I am sure that there are some players that I missed, but there's 16 that I named that could be very good prospects. 2010 should be just as good if not better than this past year for recruiting in-state. MSU should be able to continue to get great in-state talent.

[Polo04CDs]

2009 Top 20 Recruiting Class
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'10 MI LB Max Bullough (MSU Verbal)
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2009 Top 15 Recruiting Class
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'10 MI DE William Gholston (The piece that takes our momentum from a hill to a mountain)
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'10 OH OT Christian Pace
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'10 MI LB Austin Gray
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'10 GA RB Storm Johnson
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'10 OH DB LaTwan Anderson
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'10 MI DT Johnathan Hankins
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'10 MI QB Devin Gardner
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Top 10 2010 Recruiting class

[calispartan]

Originally Posted by Polo04CDs

2009 Top 20 Recruiting Class
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'10 MI LB Max Bullough (MSU Verbal)
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2009 Top 15 Recruiting Class
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'10 MI DE William Gholston (The piece that takes our momentum from a hill to a mountain)
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'10 OH OT Christian Pace
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'10 MI LB Austin Gray
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'10 GA RB Storm Johnson
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'10 OH DB LaTwan Anderson
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'10 MI DT Johnathan Hankins
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'10 MI QB Devin Gardner
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Top 10 2010 Recruiting class

[Island of misfit toys]

Originally Posted by calispartan

cause and affect

[Ron Jeremy]

Originally Posted by calispartan

I think we have a shot at everyone you list except Johnson, Pace and Anderson.

If tOSU goes after Pace and Anderson, we won't get them, Ohio is a different breed of recruiting, we get tOSU's leftovers, which isn't a bad thing. I would love to pull off an upset and take one of these kids from tOSU, but not likely.

Johnson will stay in the South, farthest north he goes in TN. He won't come North. We will focus on White, since we have a better shot with him, and we have limited offers next class.

[Spartan Pride]

Gardner just isn't gonna happen IMO.

[49ers169]

Originally Posted by Mitch C.

I think we have a shot at everyone you list except Johnson, Pace and Anderson.

If tOSU goes after Pace and Anderson, we won't get them, Ohio is a different breed of recruiting, we get tOSU's leftovers, which isn't a bad thing. I would love to pull off an upset and take one of these kids from tOSU, but not likely.

Johnson will stay in the South, farthest north he goes in TN. He won't come North. We will focus on White, since we have a better shot with him, and we have limited offers next class.

We have a great shot at Pace, OSU is most likely not going to offer that one.

A little early but if he isn't OSU doesn't offer I like our chances.

[spartaspartan]

keep in mind OSU is limited on scholies again next year -- something around 17.

That will help us with Ohio recruiting

[MD4Prez]

Originally Posted by JOHNNYDRAMA08

I thought the same thing, though this is OSU's second junior day I believe.



From what I have read and heard the 2010 in-state class should be better. Gardner, Gholston and White could be 5 star prospects (I'm not saying they will be but they have the potential). Bolden and Boisture are most likely elite 11 bound, with Gardner. RB Nick Hill is in the rivals 250 watch list. DE CJ Olaniyan is in the top 6 for Allen Trieu, making him a Scout 4 star. Johnathon Hankins and Tremondae Branch both could garner BCS offers. Jeremy Jackson (UM) and Brandon Banks could be 4 star receivers. Max Bullough (MSU) and Austin Gray could be 4 star LB's. CB Dior Mathis is most likely a top 100 player and CB Mylan Hicks could be a 4 star player. Colvin Voss is a solid TE. There are some good OL that could get some good offers. I'm not saying all of these players will get offers, but they are getting some major interest right now. I am sure that there are some players that I missed, but there's 16 that I named that could be very good prospects. 2010 should be just as good if not better than this past year for recruiting in-state. MSU should be able to continue to get great in-state talent.

The problem with 2010 is that many of the top players are not options for MSU. 3 of the qb's are top players, but MSU can only take one of them. Mathis and Jackson aren't going to MSU.

Also, many of the players you've mentioned above do not have offers from anyone yet. I count only 4 of the above with MSU offers. Last year, Jackson, Norman, Spencer, Maxwell, Baker, Caper, Sims, and Campbell had offers already. And that is just off the top of my head.

2010 is good at the top, but not as deep as last year. I think it will be a down year on the OL unless there are some names out there I haven't heard of yet.

[Stats]

Originally Posted by Mitch C.

I think we have a shot at everyone you list except Johnson, Pace and Anderson.

If tOSU goes after Pace and Anderson, we won't get them, Ohio is a different breed of recruiting, we get tOSU's leftovers, which isn't a bad thing. I would love to pull off an upset and take one of these kids from tOSU, but not likely.

UM routinely gets kids with OSU offers out of Ohio and Illinois has even makes the occasional dent. It can be done....

[Gods03]

Originally Posted by Spartan Pride

Gardner just isn't gonna happen IMO.

Agreed. Especially with an Elite 11 QB in our '09 class, it's not too likely. Plus, he seems to think that his offer sheet will be filled to the gills with the likes of USC, tOSU, Florida, etc. (Which it may well be...)

I want Bolden, because he gives us a great change of pace guy, but Boisture would be a great pick-up as well.

[JOHNNYDRAMA08]

Originally Posted by MD4Prez

The problem with 2010 is that many of the top players are not options for MSU. 3 of the qb's are top players, but MSU can only take one of them. Mathis and Jackson aren't going to MSU.


Also, many of the players you've mentioned above do not have offers from anyone yet. I count only 4 of the above with MSU offers. Last year, Jackson, Norman, Spencer, Maxwell, Baker, Caper, Sims, and Campbell had offers already. And that is just off the top of my head.

2010 is good at the top, but not as deep as last year. I think it will be a down year on the OL unless there are some names out there I haven't heard of yet.

I was only stating that there was more talent, I wasn't claiming the state was deeper in 2010. There are probably around 20 players that could get some good offers. IMO 2010 will have more talent based on the players named above alone. Mathis and Jackson are going to UM, IMO. Gardner will be going elsewhere and Bolden favors other schools right now. I hope MSU offers Boisture soon, he's most likely going to commit to a school before the summer.

Gholston, Bullough, Gray, Boisture, Bolden, Gardner, White, Hill and Jackson all have BCS offers that include MSU, UM, ND, Miami, Florida, OSU, Stanford, UCLA, Pitt, BC, etc. Name some players that received that kind of interest and offers this early last year in-state, you won't find as many. Maybe Campbell, Sims, Baker, Norman and Jackson had that type of interest, but no one else had those type of offers even throughout their senior year. 2009 was a great class, but 2010 will be more talented IMO, but maybe not quite as deep. If MSU takes care of the top tlanet in-state and can get some good players out of state 2010 could be a better class.

Dionte Savage is the only OL that I know that MSU could offer, but I'm sure that more names will surface. The OL could be just like this years with 4 prospects choosing BCS schools, though I don't know if there will be any 4 star prospects at the OL position.

[Big M]

Originally Posted by spartaspartan

keep in mind OSU is limited on scholies again next year -- something around 17.

That will help us with Ohio recruiting

I feel like we say that every year, and every year OSU manages to get 20+ kids.