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Old 02-08-2008, 06:57 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Ending up #47 according to rivals, and #56 according to scout, does not get it done. 1-11 Minnesota ended up #17 according to rivals. The Gophers must be selling the hell out of the new stadium. To turn the corner you have to get 4 star players like Perry, and Ingram. They shoud have 5-6 four star players every year, not just one. scUM had 15 4 star players, I think State should end up with 5-6 per season.
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RIVALS or SCOUT or RECUITING PLANENT or SOME FAILED COACH ON THE BIG 10 NETWORK or ANYONE ELSE NOT NAMED DANTONIO don't know s***.


I don't know either. Let's wait until we see the new guys play before making any judgement. I have no idea if any of these recuits can compete at this level or whether they're all Big 10 Team caliber. Neither do you, neither do the recuiting expert assbags.

In the meantime, there's some very good threads on here that deal with recuiting rankings and their utter failure in predicting future results. Literally it's a 50/50 crapshot. Sometimes these rankings are absolutely laughable when you compare the rankings to the actual results.

Do your own research using Rivals Database - it's free and it's easy to use. Go back and look at the top recuiting classes over the past 5 years, then look at the final polls. Hint: Look at Mizzou or Va Tech rankings going back 5years. Compare their recuiting rankings to UM or Miami over the same time frame. Then look at how those teams finished this year. Draw your own conclusions.

If you come back here after doing 20 minutes of research on this board and Rivals and see if you still want to post something as ignorant as you did. If you do, I won't refrain from then calling you a f'n idiot.
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:19 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Ending up #47 according to rivals, and #56 according to scout, does not get it done. 1-11 Minnesota ended up #17 according to rivals. The Gophers must be selling the hell out of the new stadium. To turn the corner you have to get 4 star players like Perry, and Ingram. They shoud have 5-6 four star players every year, not just one. scUM had 15 4 star players, I think State should end up with 5-6 per season.

As I said in a different thread: If you like recruiting no OL, signing 13+ WRs/DBs, and have numerous JUCOs then by all means, like minni. We've been there, done that and it never came close to working out. All you did was go see what the ranking was and made an uninformed comment. This **** has been discussed TO DEATH but I guess you still didn't get it. Go root for the team that will have over 1/3 of its roster made up of WRs/DBs, but that **** isn't going to happen at MSU anymore. Either jump on board now or go cheer for the gophers.

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Old 02-09-2008, 11:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 02-09-2008, 12:47 PM   #29 (permalink)
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With USF, UCF, and FAU all making a rise, gettng FSU and UF's rejects is simply getting harder.

Why would a kid from florida want to play in a cold state like Michigan when he can just as easily get a scholly at one of those 3 programs that are on the rise and stay in florida?
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Old 02-09-2008, 05:04 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Ending up #47 according to rivals, and #56 according to scout, does not get it done. 1-11 Minnesota ended up #17 according to rivals. The Gophers must be selling the hell out of the new stadium. To turn the corner you have to get 4 star players like Perry, and Ingram. They shoud have 5-6 four star players every year, not just one. scUM had 15 4 star players, I think State should end up with 5-6 per season.
We are one season removed from slappy and a 4 win season. It isnt like MSU is suddenly a top tier program that kids are going to be fighting to get scholarships...give Dantonio time....we got a bowl game, next step we need to win one. Each year we should get better because A. Dantonio has another year to coach these kids and B. we have less of John L's problems on the roster, and more of Dantonio's guys. Give him a break, lets be realistic. We don't need a magical flash in the pan one year thing, but to build for consistent success, both now and in the future...
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Old 02-10-2008, 10:29 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Also note that Michigan has no recruits from Florida this year, either. It's not just us.

I can't hardly imagine why any kid would choose to leave this area to play football in the north. Especially with most recruiting occuring during the winter.
Except it seems to work for Rutgers....and frankly, I'd rather play in the state of Michigan than in New Jersey....
You can't turn a corner down here without seeing huge Rutgers billboards on the highways...
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:25 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Also note that Michigan has no recruits from Florida this year, either. It's not just us.
IIRC M has two Fl commits.
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:44 AM   #33 (permalink)
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IIRC M has two Fl commits.
Correction, make that three.
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Old 02-11-2008, 01:57 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Dantonio wants to chart a different course from the way MSU has operated for the last 40 years. Hmm.....I'm on board!
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Old 02-11-2008, 05:47 PM   #35 (permalink)
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We had kids like Rhonne Sanderson, Lorenzo White Jr., and Yourhighness Morgan in from Florida. What they love not mentioning is that we had a kids in from Texas, Georgia (including commit Brynden Trawick), California, New Jersey, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. Still they claim that we constricted our recruiting territory. Despite the fact that we actually were recruiting all over the country. DiNardo doesn't know what he's talking about. Just because we don't have commits from Florida doesn't mean that we're ignoring the state.


I see quite a change in your tune over arguements we had last summer...i was mentioning(at the time of the Kelly possibility)that he was a familiar face in michigan living rooms,you basically said so what,there is generally not a lot of talent here,and that we should focus on Ohio,what with MD'S great knowledge of that state.No where in your post do i hear Ohio mentioned
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Old 02-11-2008, 06:00 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I see quite a change in your tune over arguements we had last summer...i was mentioning(at the time of the Kelly possibility)that he was a familiar face in michigan living rooms,you basically said so what,there is generally not a lot of talent here,and that we should focus on Ohio,what with MD'S great knowledge of that state.No where in your post do i hear Ohio mentioned

That' b/c he was responding to Dinardo's comment that MSU 'shrunk' its recruiting base. Since Ohio is obviously part of the base and it didn't need mentioning dumb****. The only home that BK welcome in is one with free Krispy Kreme. Stop trying to defend your fat**** boyfriend.
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Old 02-11-2008, 06:12 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I see quite a change in your tune over arguements we had last summer...i was mentioning(at the time of the Kelly possibility)that he was a familiar face in michigan living rooms,you basically said so what,there is generally not a lot of talent here,and that we should focus on Ohio,what with MD'S great knowledge of that state.No where in your post do i hear Ohio mentioned
Huh? The whole premise of the initial discussion from DiNardo was that MSU was changing it's philosophy and restricting itself to recruiting a midwestern base of Michigan and Ohio. Why would I mention Ohio again? It was a given.
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:08 PM   #38 (permalink)
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WTF do you mean? He's doing exactly the same thing as the others have over the past 40 years....middle tiered, mediocre ranked, recruiting classes...it's the SOS
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Old 02-12-2008, 06:48 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Correction, make that three.
So sorry. I based my statement on a full page list in the Orlando Sentinel, which showed no Florida high school players signed with either Michigan or Michigan State. Here's a link to their online database, which lists over 400 players with none to UM or MSU.

Search: 2008 college football recruiting -- OrlandoSentinel.com
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:55 PM   #40 (permalink)
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WTF do you mean? He's doing exactly the same thing as the others have over the past 40 years....middle tiered, mediocre ranked, recruiting classes...it's the SOS

Ok then bearcat, break down the class if you know so much. Player by player please. Their strengths, weaknesses, etc. And then explain how this is the same thing JLS was doing. Thanks buddy.
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I'll defer to the recruiting experts...and they all picked MSU in the bottom tier of the BT.

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So unless you drink the kool-aid and speak the company line....don't say anything...even if it's true?

Your "truth" is a pile of **** and anti-MSU. So if you could just bash MSU on the main board instead of on here, I'd prefer it. I'm just going to start deleting your posts on DDFRB otherwise.
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:27 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:47 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Can you please point out all of the errors and untruths in my posts?

AASpartan, bearcat is just dumb enough to not know what was wrong with his post. Get a para-pro in here to work with bearcat.
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I'll defer to the recruiting experts...and they all picked MSU in the bottom tier of the BT.

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So b/c you haven't seen any of these kids play you decide to pass judgement without any knowlege? Sounds about right from you. Keep dodging, its funny. The more you dodge, the more you prove what an ignorant **** you are. Since you have proven you know absolutely nothing, can you stay off of here and shut the **** up? Thanks pal!
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:31 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Your "truth" is a pile of **** and anti-MSU. So if you could just bash MSU on the main board instead of on here, I'd prefer it. I'm just going to start deleting your posts on DDFRB otherwise.

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Old 02-12-2008, 04:52 PM   #47 (permalink)
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So you are saying the recruiting experts that rate the classes have no knowledge of recruits?

What ****ing moron.
This is pretty damning proof that they aren't infallible

http://www.spartantailgate.com/forum...tbal-news.html
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This is pretty damning proof that they aren't infallible

http://www.spartantailgate.com/forum...tbal-news.html
Picking out one rating is one thing...as a whole the "experts" gave us a lower tier Big Ten ranking.

I suppose they all know nothing
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