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Old 07-31-2008, 05:21 PM   #51 (permalink)
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The guy will be a STUD in college football, no doubt. It sucks we prolly don't have room for him. In a normal class we have him for sure. At 6 5 he has future 1st/2nd round receiver written on him
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Old 07-31-2008, 05:32 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves calling this guy a future 1st rounder and Randy Moss. He is tall, lets see if he can play D1 before the Lions pick him in the 1st round
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:07 PM   #53 (permalink)
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It is EASY to see his superstar talent on film. I don't care who he's playing against. I watched Charles Rogers many times in high school and he wasn't this impressive. I say that without hesitation. If this kid has his act together, MD will get him on board. If we don't end up with him, then there were things off the field that weren't right. You don't pass on this type of talent. And yes, he looks like NFL talent.
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:17 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves calling this guy a future 1st rounder and Randy Moss. He is tall, lets see if he can play D1 before the Lions pick him in the 1st round
I only pointed out he has a long stride ala Moss....It's not like I said he was the next Randy Moss or anything...
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:23 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves calling this guy a future 1st rounder and Randy Moss. He is tall, lets see if he can play D1 before the Lions pick him in the 1st round
I don't think anyone is projecting him as a 1st or 2nd Rounder at this time but like I said barring injury he will eventually be playing WR in the NFL.
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:22 AM   #56 (permalink)
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It is EASY to see his superstar talent on film. I don't care who he's playing against. I watched Charles Rogers many times in high school and he wasn't this impressive. I say that without hesitation. If this kid has his act together, MD will get him on board. If we don't end up with him, then there were things off the field that weren't right. You don't pass on this type of talent. And yes, he looks like NFL talent.

Wow, Rogers was one of the top ranked players in the country and could have gone to any school he wanted to. This kid originally had offers from Minnesota, Cinn. ,Purdue, and a few others.

I hear you guys though, I just get tired sometimes of the comparisons. I have been a subscriber to spartanmag for a long time and have read that this guy is the next Tim Duncun and he turns out to be Herzog. Not saying this kid doesn't have the potential to be very good, his tape looks great, and if he comes to MSU I hope he performs as well as Rogers did.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:46 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Wow, Rogers was one of the top ranked players in the country and could have gone to any school he wanted to. This kid originally had offers from Minnesota, Cinn. ,Purdue, and a few others.

I hear you guys though, I just get tired sometimes of the comparisons. I have been a subscriber to spartanmag for a long time and have read that this guy is the next Tim Duncun and he turns out to be Herzog. Not saying this kid doesn't have the potential to be very good, his tape looks great, and if he comes to MSU I hope he performs as well as Rogers did.
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:01 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Wow, Rogers was one of the top ranked players in the country and could have gone to any school he wanted to. This kid originally had offers from Minnesota, Cinn. ,Purdue, and a few others.

I hear you guys though, I just get tired sometimes of the comparisons. I have been a subscriber to spartanmag for a long time and have read that this guy is the next Tim Duncun and he turns out to be Herzog. Not saying this kid doesn't have the potential to be very good, his tape looks great, and if he comes to MSU I hope he performs as well as Rogers did.
I get that, but I'm not Spartanmag. I watched Charles Rogers in person many, many times. I'm telling ya, Howard is more impressive from his tape. Not saying he'll be better than CR in college, but he looks better at the high school level. I'll 100% stand by that.
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:59 PM   #59 (permalink)
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The guy will be a STUD in college football, no doubt. It sucks we prolly don't have room for him. In a normal class we have him for sure. At 6 5 he has future 1st/2nd round receiver written on him
I don't care what has to happen (aside from removing a scholarship from someone already committed, that wouldn't sit well) but good lord fellas, we HAVE to pick this kid up in my opinion. He is an absolute stud, and the catch he makes about a minute and a half in to that YouTube vid (where he pulls the ball from behind the defender) is just plain unreal.

Kids like this, we have to find room for. Period.
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:54 PM   #60 (permalink)
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If we get him we would be absolutely loaded with talent at wide receiver but that is why we are Wide Receiver U
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:58 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I don't care what has to happen (aside from removing a scholarship from someone already committed, that wouldn't sit well) but good lord fellas, we HAVE to pick this kid up in my opinion. He is an absolute stud, and the catch he makes about a minute and a half in to that YouTube vid (where he pulls the ball from behind the defender) is just plain unreal.

Kids like this, we have to find room for. Period.
While we're at it, can we get their QB too?
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He is now a 5 star on scout. We need to make an exception here... period. You just cant pass on this sort of talent.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:34 AM   #63 (permalink)
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I'm not saying that you DON'T add a guy like a Jamar Howard. If he is as special as people say it would be hard to pass up on him. I might actually argue that Howard would be the wiser addition. Let's look at that depth chart again but adjust it for the fall of 2009 when Howard and the rest of the class would get on campus

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I look at that and I see a talented but young receiving corp. This is especially true when you consider that with the top 2 in experience you have a walk-on senior with 3 career catches, and an undersized junior with 0 career catches. Those two are role players at best.

Now, if you add Howard to the mix as a junior, he can instantly come in and add some experience and talent to that young receiver corp.

Is it a necessity? Absolutely not, but it is still a tantalizing option if the opportunity presents itself. Especially since he will be a december graduate who can be on campus for winter conditioning and spring ball.
Howard would come in as a Soph. with 3 years of eligibility left. Also, he appears to be D-1 ready, both in ability and physically and he can play and contribute right away in 2009, while Spencer and Fowler are red-shirted.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:46 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Howard would come in as a Soph. with 3 years of eligibility left. Also, he appears to be D-1 ready, both in ability and physically and he can play and contribute right away in 2009, while Spencer and Fowler are red-shirted.
According to a rivals article I read about him, it says he has 3 years to play 2. that means he comes in as a junior but he does have his redshirt year if you wish to use it.
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:51 PM   #66 (permalink)
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I getting more convinced Howard would be an awesome addition. If he has 3 years left and can contribute early. He appears to have the measurables and skill set.
That being said, MD knows him well. I bet it comes down to our current WR corps performance in camp and during the season combined with spots left.
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:55 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I getting more convinced Howard would be an awesome addition. If he has 3 years left and can contribute early. He appears to have the measurables and skill set.
That being said, MD knows him well. I bet it comes down to our current WR corps performance in camp and during the season combined with spots left.
He has 3 years left, but 2 to play. As wingfanjim stated as well
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:00 PM   #68 (permalink)
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He has 3 years left, but 2 to play. As wingfanjim stated as well
Which basically means he has two years left. With the talent we have coming up at WR, we don't need another guy who is going to redshirt. If MSU signs him, he's playing right away.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:34 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Which basically means he has two years left. With the talent we have coming up at WR, we don't need another guy who is going to redshirt. If MSU signs him, he's playing right away.
My prediction if Howard commits to MSU is that he plays right away as you mentioned. Our receiving corp. would be made up of Dell, Smith, Cunningham, and Howard on the top end of big performers. With quality depth provided by several young kids. Spencer, Fowler, White (depending on DB situation) might get a redshirt and come in a redshirt freshman ready to contribute big time.
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My prediction if Howard commits to MSU is that he plays right away as you mentioned. Our receiving corp. would be made up of Dell, Smith, Cunningham, and Howard on the top end of big performers. With quality depth provided by several young kids. Spencer, Fowler, White (depending on DB situation) might get a redshirt and come in a redshirt freshman ready to contribute big time.
you forget about Keshawn Martin. He's a big potential guy too.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:39 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Would be fun to see all of the different lineups we could use with the wideouts
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:44 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I getting more convinced Howard would be an awesome addition. If he has 3 years left and can contribute early. He appears to have the measurables and skill set.
That being said, MD knows him well. I bet it comes down to our current WR corps performance in camp and during the season combined with spots left.
well, if Dantonio helped him out and the kid wants to reciprocate by coming to MSU....that has the makings of a great story...I agree, sounds like MD has something already invested in this kid...if the kid has that kind of talent, MD will make room...although the sooner the commit the better

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Old 08-05-2008, 11:37 PM   #73 (permalink)
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you forget about Keshawn Martin. He's a big potential guy too.
I didn't forget, I just honestly don't know enough about him yet.
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:15 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Would be fun to see all of the different lineups we could use with the wideouts
yeah, we didn't get enough of that with JLS.

Are you people forgetting that MD runs a pro style set, all these wideouts are pointless
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