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04-05-2008, 05:16 PM
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'09 CA WR Jamar Howard (Cincy Verbal)
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Wide Receiver
Visalia (CA) College of the Sequoias
Ht: 6-foot-4
Wt: 210 lbs
Forty: 4.5 secs
Class: 2009 (Junior College - Dec Grad)
 
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04-05-2008, 05:34 PM
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#5 Johnny Adams
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We've only taken one JUCO kid total, so for Dantonio to offer this kid this early...he must have really seen something. I don't mind a couple Plaxico's (Although I believe he was a Prepschool kid, you get my point) and Peko's in there)
If MD really sees something, I'll trust him.
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04-05-2008, 05:41 PM
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I know  doesn't like to go after JC players, so for one to be offered so early and not as a last resort you know he has to be something special or this could show lack of confidence in the current young WRs...lets hope not. |
I'm guessing its the former
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04-05-2008, 08:37 PM
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Any idea if he has 2 or 3 years of eligibility remaining? I'm guessing two.
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04-05-2008, 08:51 PM
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#21 Otis Wiley
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Originally Posted by Spartan Pride
We've only taken one JUCO kid total, so for Dantonio to offer this kid this early...he must have really seen something. I don't mind a couple Plaxico's (Although I believe he was a Prepschool kid, you get my point) and Peko's in there)
If MD really sees something, I'll trust him.
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Wasn't Julian Peterson also a Juco or prep school player? Sometimes these guys make serious contributions.
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04-05-2008, 09:21 PM
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Wasn't Julian Peterson also a Juco or prep school player? Sometimes these guys make serious contributions.
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Devin Thomas?
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04-05-2008, 09:54 PM
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#61 Arthur Ray Jr.
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Originally Posted by Ivan Drago
Devin Thomas?
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just gonna post that.
Things and opinions have probably changed for MD considering what he saw in Devin Thomas.
I kid does the thing Thomas did and your evaluation changes and the way you approach changes. MD used to be against JUCO's now, with DT success, I think he realize that there is potential on a limited basis. (not the JLS JUCO route)
edit -- just read that, wow, I'm drunk
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04-06-2008, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ivan Drago
Any idea if he has 2 or 3 years of eligibility remaining? I'm guessing two.
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I read 3. But not positive. MD recruited him out of HS prior to JC, so he knows him well.
Not sure who we take / get out of the WRs we have offered.
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04-06-2008, 12:17 AM
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#53 Greg Jones
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Wasn't Julian Peterson also a Juco or prep school player? Sometimes these guys make serious contributions.
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And who was responsible for Peterson's recruitment to MSU in the late 90's? None other than Mark Dantonio.
Dantonio isn't against juco players, he just doesn't want to fill his roster with a bunch of two-year players the way JLS did. He will selectively target the juco's he wants, and you can bet that he has a higher standard for these players due to their limited eligibility. They have to be able to produce immediately and fill a void otherwise MD is going the high school route.
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04-06-2008, 01:29 AM
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#30 Brynden Trawick
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Originally Posted by spartaspartan
just gonna post that.
Things and opinions have probably changed for MD considering what he saw in Devin Thomas.
I kid does the thing Thomas did and your evaluation changes and the way you approach changes. MD used to be against JUCO's now, with DT success, I think he realize that there is potential on a limited basis. (not the JLS JUCO route)
edit -- just read that, wow, I'm drunk
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He has been in the game long enough to know what a juco can bring to the table, DT has nothing to do with this. MD obviously thought this guy was good enough for a scholarship even though he will only spend 2-3 years in the program, and would have offered no matter how Devin played last year.
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04-06-2008, 01:35 AM
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#21 Otis Wiley
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Originally Posted by Spartan4ever
And who was responsible for Peterson's recruitment to MSU in the late 90's? None other than Mark Dantonio.
Dantonio isn't against juco players, he just doesn't want to fill his roster with a bunch of two-year players the way JLS did. He will selectively target the juco's he wants, and you can bet that he has a higher standard for these players due to their limited eligibility. They have to be able to produce immediately and fill a void otherwise MD is going the high school route. |
I think that's a reasonable approach. JLS was treading water at best when trying to fill many of the holes we had (at many positions, not just WR). It's interesting that jucos were our best receivers the past two seasons (I feel Kerry Reed was the best in '06).
I trust that if Dantonio has offered Howard already that he must feel that the kid can play. We have quite a few offers out at WR at this point. I wonder how many we will end up taking.
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05-07-2008, 09:20 PM
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#21 Otis Wiley
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Rivals has MSU as the only school he has "High Interest". Very nice list
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05-07-2008, 09:55 PM
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According to his scout profile he was at Cinci as a freshman, so Dantonio was the one to recruit him out of high school. Scout.com: Jamar Howard Profile
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05-07-2008, 10:29 PM
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#21 Otis Wiley
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Let get him enrolled in General Studies and call it a day.....wait we don't have that
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05-07-2008, 11:20 PM
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#82 Keshawn Martin
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according to that profile and his current profile, he has shrunk an inch and gained 10 lbs. 
Still, 6'4", 210lb is a good sized guy to play NOW. Curious how he fits and where MD takes this one.
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05-08-2008, 11:36 AM
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#23 Javon Ringer
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wtf is Sequioa?
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05-08-2008, 11:57 AM
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wtf is Sequioa?
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It is a Com. College in California. It is one of those CCs that is basically a juco football factory if I am not mistaken (like those in Kansas). I believe this is the same juco that the huge TE (Graham) and LB (Dempsey) that we recruited last year were from.
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05-08-2008, 11:58 AM
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#43 Eric Gordon
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Any idea if he has 2 or 3 years of eligibility remaining? I'm guessing two.
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If he's a grad, that means he got his Associates, therefore probably has 3 to play 2. Could redshirt, but if Dantonio likes him enough to offer a JC, he must be pretty special.
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05-08-2008, 11:24 PM
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Ken Mannie
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there are rumblings that howard is a silent verbal over on enlightened spartan. i'm not sure if these are credible, but i like the sounds of it. even better, he may slide into a medical scholarship slot purported to be opening in the near future.
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05-08-2008, 11:40 PM
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#23 Javon Ringer
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Very interesting, loving the size and speed combo
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05-09-2008, 01:32 AM
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#82 Keshawn Martin
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there are rumblings that howard is a silent verbal over on enlightened spartan. i'm not sure if these are credible
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Enlightened Spartan and credible are utter antonyms, otherwise Dawawn Whitner would be a Spartan.
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05-09-2008, 10:24 AM
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#82 Keshawn Martin
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Enlightened Spartan and credible are utter antonyms, otherwise Dawawn Whitner would be a Spartan.
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I agree, but we certainly have some potential schollies opening up from medical....
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05-16-2008, 11:44 AM
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#23 Javon Ringer
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Youtube highlights of him.
YouTube - Jamar Howard highlights
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