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Old 07-13-2008, 10:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Word on the street is that he's the 12th commit for the 09 class.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They are listing him as a solid verbal. Nice.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He got the offer for TE.

And yes SpartanMag confirmed the commitment.

Written offers from UVA, Maryland and Northwestern.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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See how things change 49er?
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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See how things change 49er?
Haha yeah they change daily with this class. We may finish this thing off by the end of August the way things are going.

I think it is safe to say that 4.9 is a little off.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think it is safe to say that 4.9 is a little off.
Especially if he's committed as a TE
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow - where did this guy come from? How does this impact Edison?
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Wow - where did this guy come from? How does this impact Edison?
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow - where did this guy come from? How does this impact Edison?
Edison is I think out.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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let's hope for some new film to come out in the next couple days.

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Old 07-13-2008, 11:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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anyone know anything film shows gets off a block good at de only Te film is of him blocking but if offers it was for a good reason
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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POWERHOUSE 6-6 Maryland Terrapins?? AND tWildcats??

I'm just saying, we didn't even steal this guy from, let's say, tBelieve Train.
JLS fill in the class recruit = only MAC offers

JLS fill in the class recruit = first contact with him came in November
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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where was this commit listed publically?
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Would I trust JLS with an early commitment? NO!

Would I trust Dantonio with an early offer/commitment? ABSOFREAKINGLUTELY.

I'm not going to question this staff in terms of recruiting. If they offered, he was worth it. Man, with that size he could definately be a nice pickup. This has NOTHING to do with Sims either. We'll find a schollie for a potential Top 100 player in Sims if he wants to be here.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
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To the people who are questioning this verbal, what is your background in football recruiting and camp evaluations?
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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To the people who are questioning this verbal, what is your background in football recruiting and camp evaluations?
This is tInternets... I don't need to have a background in engineering to know if a plane will take off from a conveyor belt.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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JLS fill in the class recruit = first contact with him came in November
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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so is coach d going to pull Vushajs offer
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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To the people who are questioning this verbal, what is your background in football recruiting and camp evaluations?
No ****. I'd love to know where all of you coach at.

Anyway, if Dantonio likes the kid, I'll give him a chance. I'd rather not throw out insults. Up until 10 minutes ago, I didn't even know he existed.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:24 PM   #20 (permalink)
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No ****. I'd love to know where all of you coach at.

Anyway, if Dantonio likes the kid, I'll give him a chance. I'd rather not throw out insults. Up until 10 minutes ago, I didn't even know he existed.
No kidding. We have a bunch of arm chair recruiters in here, that were on the nuts of the MSU recruiters for the 2009 class. Now we get a guy that doesn't have any stars next to his name, and people are wondering what is going on.

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Old 07-13-2008, 11:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This is tInternets... I don't need to have a background in engineering to know if a plane will take off from a conveyor belt.
THis is a guy that they had at their camp. That means their coaches got to work with him one on one to see how he can fit into their system, they get to see if his strengths can make there style better. If this was a verbal just from watching tape then I could understand the questioning but when you get to work with the guy then you know if he's the right guy. Honestly I can tell you that informed coaches do not care about star systems or recruiting websites
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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where was this commit listed publically?
Article on Spartanmag now.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:30 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Honestly I can tell you that informed coaches do not care about star systems or recruiting websites
So, you're saying Dantonio doesn't care that a RCMB member's response to this recruit is a rabbit with a pancake on its head? He didn't check to see if Rivals rated the guy before he offered?
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:35 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Get it all out of your systems now. At midnight I'm cleaning up the thread. Just a heads up.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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As I explained, I have nothing against the kid having no stars.

It's just a lukewarm reception to a guy no one had ever heard of, and who is, in all honesty, our C option at the position.
I understand the lukewarm reception as we can't cheer, "we got a 4 star" which, quite frankly, I like doing. Still, I don't see how this could be a C option in July. We don't know why this guy is under the radar/not evaluated and have other BCS offers. I'm just of the opinion that if Dantonio offered the guy in July, he really thinks he's a good player that fits the system.
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