'10 MI DB Dior Mathis (MSU Offer)

ravenjaw · 07-02-2009, 01:38 PM

I wonder if Dior is really our #1 choice right now for the second CB position. I read that he has been less than impressive, but still good, at various camps. I personally would prefer to break into Glenville in Cleveland with a Christian Bryant type rather than Cass Tech. Take Hicks and Bryant and call it a day.

And while he may have offers from a lot of the big guys, I can't imagine Florida (with 4 DBs already committed for 2010) or FSU (2 DBs committed, lead for 5 star LaMarcus Joyner) or others still honoring those offers that were probably extended months ago.

Is my gut feeling wrong here?

Northcoast · 07-02-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bailey1149

Can someone confirm that he has cut Michigan?

He has not cut Michigan. Expect them to be there till the end.

Heaph · 07-02-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BtothejizA

UM is not on the list. It's us and Oregon.

Got it. I thought the other poster that wrote Oregon was joking (a nod towards the earlier recruitment of Mr. Bolden).

Well, given that, uM fans have to be freakin' just a bit. I'm not sure about anyone else but watching this circus unfold in AA is providing lots of entertainment for me. Obssessed? I don't think so, but it is fun. I am really hoping for an excuse laden seasoned for uM ending in a 5-7 record. That way, they can justify keeping Coach Rod around for another season yet miss out on another bowl season. I won't apologize for my disdain for those down by dar'

PortlandSpartan · 07-02-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bailey1149

Can someone confirm that he has cut Michigan?

He has not cut Michigan. He said they would still be in his top 5. He has just moved UO and MSU to the top.

BtothejizA · 07-02-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PortlandSpartan

He has not cut Michigan. He said they would still be in his top 5. He has just moved UO and MSU to the top.

Good enough for me.

MSUDancinBear · 07-02-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartyon2001

They must have a local recruiter, because your right, they get a lot of both football and basketball players from this area. That is ok though, because Hairston failed there and so will Jamil Wilson (actually from Wis) because they spurned

I have to believe the football recruiting is the direct result of the multiple schedulings and then drummings of UofM over the last few years. Have to take advantage of that kind of pub while you have it.

Spartan89 · 07-02-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Northcoast

He has not cut Michigan. Expect them to be there till the end.

Have to agree.
The Cass Tech kids seem to love playing the game of moving schools up and down. If this kid really is interested in State, then great. If this is just a game to get attention and have your name on all the boards then who cares. Reminds me of the WCampbell b.s.- decommitt and waste every ones time when all along he was going to scUM. I thought the schools that spent money on getting him to campus blew it. He had no interest other than free trips and that was pretty much a joke.

Agreed on the Glenville pipeline- that is one that we definitely have to become a solid number two and occassionally steal a head to head battle with OSU.

All Your Base · 07-02-2009, 02:18 PM

Don't get too excited on this one, fellas. I'm sure MD and Enos are recruiting the hell out of this kid, but if SCum picks up the attention at all they'll be right back at the top. He said in Hemdolt's article that Oregon came out of nowhere. If that happened and they're at the top of his list? Sounds like flavor of the month to me. This is way different than Gholston's recruitment, IMO.

burnsmi4 · 07-02-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by All Your Base

Don't get too excited on this one, fellas. I'm sure MD and Enos are recruiting the hell out of this kid, but if SCum picks up the attention at all they'll be right back at the top. He said in Hemdolt's article that Oregon came out of nowhere. If that happened and they're at the top of his list? Sounds like flavor of the month to me. This is way different than Gholston's recruitment, IMO.

well he is still deciding at the AA game so we can all just sit back and see what happens. i do know that Dantonio will keep the pressure on

All Your Base · 07-02-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by burnsmi4

well he is still deciding at the AA game so we can all just sit back and see what happens. i do know that Dantonio will keep the pressure on

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Originally Posted by spartanMF

whatever All Your Base. MSU was not even in this kids solar system several months ago. MSU keeps up the pressure and I like our chances. Its just nice seeing UM fans squirm. They can spin Nick Hill all they want but they would not be able to spin tihs one.

I agree guys. Hopefully MD & co will keep their foot on the gas and close the deal. He and Hicks would be a huge pair of lockdowns.

Cuchulainn · 07-02-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenjaw

I wonder if Dior is really our #1 choice right now for the second CB position. I read that he has been less than impressive, but still good, at various camps. I personally would prefer to break into Glenville in Cleveland with a Christian Bryant type rather than Cass Tech. Take Hicks and Bryant and call it a day.

And while he may have offers from a lot of the big guys, I can't imagine Florida (with 4 DBs already committed for 2010) or FSU (2 DBs committed, lead for 5 star LaMarcus Joyner) or others still honoring those offers that were probably extended months ago.

Is my gut feeling wrong here?

Jim Tressel has called

the best evaluator of defensive secondary talent that he has ever seen. If we offer a kid at the DB spot he is going to be good, real good.

spartaspartan · 07-02-2009, 05:14 PM

Wolvies are in the "didn't really want him stage now"

Scout.com: The top two for Dior Mathis???

SpartanRocky · 07-02-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuchulainn

Jim Tressel has called

the best evaluator of defensive secondary talent that he has ever seen. If we offer a kid at the DB spot he is going to be good, real good.

The quote was that

was the best evaluator of defensive talent, period, not just DBs.

Thought you'd appreciate the clarification

Jason Grillis Sofa · 07-02-2009, 06:09 PM

I'm still surprised Miami fell off so quickly with Mathis. He nearly committed to them on multiple occasions in the last couple years.

spartan80 · 07-02-2009, 07:39 PM

I'm with the "I'll believe it when I see it" gang. If/when a Cass Tech recruit chooses MSU over a um offer it will be somewhat of a surprise and another nail in the coffin.

Stats · 07-02-2009, 10:13 PM

Boy....Hicks & Mathis + Gholson & Olaniyan = one hell of a pass defense over the next few years. Hope we can get it done here.

Stats · 07-02-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenjaw

I wonder if Dior is really our #1 choice right now for the second CB position. I read that he has been less than impressive, but still good, at various camps. I personally would prefer to break into Glenville in Cleveland with a Christian Bryant type rather than Cass Tech. Take Hicks and Bryant and call it a day.

And while he may have offers from a lot of the big guys, I can't imagine Florida (with 4 DBs already committed for 2010) or FSU (2 DBs committed, lead for 5 star LaMarcus Joyner) or others still honoring those offers that were probably extended months ago.

Is my gut feeling wrong here?

Bryant is a safety.

arfabe16 · 07-02-2009, 11:08 PM

BTW, the kid is friends with Will Gholston. The UM fan that broke the Gholston commitment to MSU on mgoblog said that Gholston had posted something on Mathis's facebook wall about joining him in East Lansing.

Not saying Gholston is playing a HUGE part in this, but it certainly can't hurt us.

Breaking through that Cass Tech pipeline would be BIG.

spartanMF · 07-02-2009, 11:37 PM

I don't see why the Cass Tech thing is such a big deal. If the people at Cass Tech send all top prospect to UM, then Mathis would not come out and say MSU is a co-leader. Obviously UM (or the Cass Tech people) is not doing enough to make him jump at the offer.

pornstar jim · 07-03-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by arfabe16

BTW, the kid is friends with Will Gholston. The UM fan that broke the Gholston commitment to MSU on mgoblog said that Gholston had posted something on Mathis's facebook wall about joining him in East Lansing.

Not saying Gholston is playing a HUGE part in this, but it certainly can't hurt us.

Breaking through that Cass Tech pipeline would be BIG.

Yeah if I recall correctly, Gholston mentioned something about trying to get a 'CB friend' to join him at MSU, shortly after he announced his own commitment. From what I understand Will is really trying to get some of the bigger names still out there to join him.

BtothejizA · 07-03-2009, 12:19 PM

I still have a little disbelief over this. It's hard to believe that a kid who refers William Campbell as his big bro would not go to UofM.

DrTre11 · 07-03-2009, 02:17 PM

I think Dior is football intelligent and that is why he is thinking MSU over UM. I mean, look at what Michigan put on the field last year and what they'll put on the field this year. I wouldn't sign up for that!

If Mathis and Olaniyan commit to MSU and combine with our other Detroit boys, we will need a nickname for sure. Right now I really like "The D Fence"

Step Right · 07-03-2009, 03:45 PM

MD is one of the best at coaching up DBs. If he can take pretty good DBs and get them to play at the level we are starting to see now, just imagine what he will do with a stable of guys like Hicks, Mathis, etc. Then mix in a much improved DL in the near future, which makes lives that much easier for DBs, and it's only a matter of time before Dantonio starts churning out NFL quality d-backs. Hopefully Mathis is open and smart enough to recognize this. I think he might be.

DrTre11 · 07-04-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Step Right

MD is one of the best at coaching up DBs. If he can take pretty good DBs and get them to play at the level we are starting to see now, just imagine what he will do with a stable of guys like Hicks, Mathis, etc. Then mix in a much improved DL in the near future, which makes lives that much easier for DBs, and it's only a matter of time before Dantonio starts churning out NFL quality d-backs. Hopefully Mathis is open and smart enough to recognize this. I think he might be.

I agree. Something about Dior's comments make me think he is different. It sounds like, "I don't care about a pipeline, this is my life and I like what these teams are doing on the field and in recruiting me." The kid just sounds like his own man and I like that, could be a good sign.

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