'10 MI DB Dior Mathis (MSU Offer)

Nigea Carter · 07-11-2009, 10:30 PM

Saw him at him at the camp today. As a matter of fact, when it concluded Mathis was the first player Coach Dantonio went up and was talking to. It was an extended conversation. I really like that William Gholston walked up and threw his two cents in. I heard them talking about the number 2 jersey, Mathis said only one person can wear the number 2 and they all started laughing. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. By the look on Mathis face when talking with Dantonio we have a serious shot at this kid.

arfabe16 · 07-12-2009, 01:02 AM

Heard from someone in the program today that our coaching staff is feeling really good about Mathis.

However, we're not going to full-court press him for a commitment (not this coaching staff's style) and I think that it might be risky with a kid like Mathis who has changed his mind many times about which schools are at the top. But that's just my personal opinion without ever having met the kid.

DrTre11 · 07-12-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nigea Carter

Saw him at him at the camp today. As a matter of fact, when it concluded Mathis was the first player Coach Dantonio went up and was talking to. It was an extended conversation. I really like that William Gholston walked up and threw his two cents in. I heard them talking about the number 2 jersey, Mathis said only one person can wear the number 2 and they all started laughing. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. By the look on Mathis face when talking with Dantonio we have a serious shot at this kid.

Great to hear, love that the #1 player in the state is workin for the Spartans already!

usual suspect · 07-12-2009, 10:04 AM

still find it hard to believe that we could break into Cass Tech and Glenville in the same recruiting season. Another sign that things are changing in EL. Go Green!

spartanMF · 07-12-2009, 12:23 PM

MD apparently made a huge impression on Mathis this weekend. The pipeline is cracking.

Cal · 07-12-2009, 12:56 PM

July 12, 2009
Detroit's Mathis 'loves' his MSU camp experience

Jim Comparoni
SpartanMag.com

EAST LANSING - Dior Mathis, one of the best cornerbacks in the nation, had one of the best camp experiences of his career, Saturday at the July edition of the Michigan State Elite Camp.

http://michiganstate.rivals.com/barr...&tid=&mid=&rid=

DrTre11 · 07-12-2009, 01:20 PM

Can somebody please paraphrase, other than obviously loving it haha. Loved when I visited rivals this morning to see Dior standing in front of Spartan Stadium with a green jersey on and the words "I love it" making up the title.

usual suspect · 07-12-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spartanMF

MD apparently made a huge impression on Mathis this weekend. The pipeline is cracking.

Yes, very positive quotes although I will believe it when I see it

usual suspect · 07-12-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DrTre11

Can somebody please paraphrase, other than obviously loving it haha. Loved when I visited rivals this morning to see Dior standing in front of Spartan Stadium with a green jersey on and the words "I love it" making up the title.

spartanMF · 07-18-2009, 12:13 AM

Was never mentioned here but Mathis was taken back by MD teaching him DB techniques during the camp and stated something along the lines of "most head coaches would be in their office doing paperwork or something during camp". Loved that MD was teaching him.

Guess it pays not to be climbing a mountain during football camp.

ctspartan · 07-18-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spartanMF

Was never mentioned here but Mathis was taken back by MD teaching him DB techniques during the camp and stated something along the lines of "most head coaches would be in their office doing paperwork or something during camp". Loved that MD was teaching him.

Guess it pays not to be climbing a mountain during football camp.

Some of us got mercilessly ripped for suggesting this when JLS was riding high. The apologists were doing all kinds of justifications.

The simple truth is that the two reasons some coaches are more successful than others is that they work harder and they're smarter.

spartan80 · 07-18-2009, 03:16 PM

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Some of us got mercilessly ripped for suggesting this when JLS was riding high. The apologists were doing all kinds of justifications.

The simple truth is that the two reasons some coaches are more successful than others is that they work harder and they're smarter.

You were correct. This staff takes a vacation too, just not during camps. When you see it done right, you wonder WTF the other guy was thinking.

DrTre11 · 07-18-2009, 10:24 PM

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You were correct. This staff takes a vacation too, just not during camps. When you see it done right, you wonder WTF the other guy was thinking.

As a coach, I can not fathom doing things the way John L. did. I had a coach tell me a couple of weeks ago (his kid committed to a major D1 program) that John L. would sit in his golf cart and not even give kids the time of day when at camp. Now I understand that JLS was going through a lot with his wife and for that I gave him a break with this and that...but if you are going to stick with coaching, you need to do it the right way.

The previous poster was right, the coaches that win are the ones that work harder and are smarter. It is really that simple and I see it time and time again. Some might get lucky with one year, but if a coach has sustained success...they worked their freaking tail off to get there.

ctspartan · 07-19-2009, 06:04 PM

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As a coach, I can not fathom doing things the way John L. did. I had a coach tell me a couple of weeks ago (his kid committed to a major D1 program) that John L. would sit in his golf cart and not even give kids the time of day when at camp. Now I understand that JLS was going through a lot with his wife and for that I gave him a break with this and that...but if you are going to stick with coaching, you need to do it the right way.

The previous poster was right, the coaches that win are the ones that work harder and are smarter. It is really that simple and I see it time and time again. Some might get lucky with one year, but if a coach has sustained success...they worked their freaking tail off to get there.

Exactly. When I first started coaching, I got a lot of advice from "experienced" coaches, most of which was bad because 1) it had been handed down from their mentor and had become gospel, and 2) it was formulaic. Most coaches think they have some "formula" for success that somehow makes up for effort and judgment, which makes them easy pickings. One coach refused to take small kids (soccer), another wouldn't take white kids (basketball), another would play only kids who looked good in a scrimmage, another would automatically bench a kid whose parents got too intrusive, etc. etc. I simply picked the best kids based on performance, spent a lot more time teaching than scrimmaging, spent a lot of time with their families to let them know I cared, and put the kids on the field that performed in real games. So simple. In my first year, I beat all the "experienced" coaches soundly. The worst coaches were generally former top athletes because they had no clue how to assess or organize a wide range of talent. I felt sorry for the kids on their teams. This is not about me, it's a shout-out to all coaches who do it right, and a Bronx cheer to all the formula coaches who take short-cuts and mess kids up under their "leadership".

Dantonio does the basics right, and it shows when the secondary is suddenly covering receivers instead of playing 10 yards off, and our middle linebackers are actually tackling properly instead of that weak arm-tackling stuff we used to see under JLS. I go nuts when these apologists say "it's the players making the mistakes, fool, not the coaches", which is total nonsense. You can tell the good coaches by the product on the field. I would take anyone's bet that we'll see mental errors go down over time under Dantonio, as one example. Evaluation of talent? "Experts" saw Greg Jones as a three-star, Dantonio saw something different. He was right - Jones is a five-star talent, stacked up against some of his contemporaries. Smart coaches know how to evaluate.

Leave Cousins in!! · 07-20-2009, 03:23 PM

Nick Hill said that Dior Mathis told him that he is close to committing to MSU.

Welcome to Hondo's House

GoBlueFromOhio · 07-20-2009, 03:47 PM

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time to spin...spin...spin...spin.....

I thought he would be and I think everything that was coming out at the time said the same thing. I can only hope it means that Cullen and Grimes are bigger UM leans then most people had thought.

Scully60 · 07-20-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ctspartan

Dantonio does the basics right, and it shows when the secondary is suddenly covering receivers instead of playing 10 yards off, and our middle linebackers are actually tackling properly instead of that weak arm-tackling stuff we used to see under JLS. I go nuts when these apologists say "it's the players making the mistakes, fool, not the coaches", which is total nonsense. You can tell the good coaches by the product on the field. I would take anyone's bet that we'll see mental errors go down over time under Dantonio, as one example. Evaluation of talent? "Experts" saw Greg Jones as a three-star, Dantonio saw something different. He was right - Jones is a five-star talent, stacked up against some of his contemporaries. Smart coaches know how to evaluate.

Love this. Agree 100%.

DUGVSUSPARTAN · 07-20-2009, 04:30 PM

its an upset at this point if he does not come to state which is a statement i never thought i would make

spartan80 · 07-20-2009, 04:59 PM

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its an upset at this point if he does not come to state which is a statement i never thought i would make

You guys are going off the deep end based on hearsay.

When the guy signs it's a done deal, not before. If it had happened before, a guy from a um feeder school where an ex-um player is the football coach, I could see some confidence. That isn't the case here.