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08-25-2009, 06:06 PM
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Just in case anybody was interested in the other side of this story......
First of all, sorry to all you people not part of the RCMB baseball league for all this drama. Due to repeated posts and threads on tRCMB I had to change my name in order to play with other Spartans again. I had no idea until draft night that Parrot Head and Chin Music were in this league.
And yes, I ended up kicking out three people in our baseball league. Parrot, Chin, and the actual guy who jacked up our league, who was a former MSU classmate of mine. I kicked out Chin and Parrot after dozens of nasty PM's were sent to me, posts and threads were made about me on tRCMB and also for the fact that they were constantly writing messages on the league page everyday about me cheating even after I explained all that happened. All the league became was name calling and they wouldnt let up. It got real old. I let Parrot Head back in to the league after he PM'd me saying he would absolutely never call me a cheater or bring it up again. And if he did, I could kick him out. HE AGREED TO THIS. Last week, he called me a cheater so this week I kicked him out. Its real simple.
I had a former classmate of mine sign up for the league and he ended up drafting all Detroit Tigers. When he played me he benched his roster for the week completely without me knowing. When I saw that he did that I had no idea what he was doing. I waited 3 days to try and contact him. I couldnt get a hold of him. Those three days where I had the adv. I am totally 100% guilty of not doing anything about it. I admitted that to the league and am sorry. So in order to correct it and make it fair I kicked out the Tigers roster against everyone, so that all teams had a = chance to beat him with a benched roster. That was fair. Everybody got a chace to cream him the same as I did. Again, I didnt know he was going to do that. I barely talked to the guy since we left school. I NEVER, EVER messed with anyone else's team, roster, adds/drops, etc.
In fact, you can even ask Chin Music and he can look at his Yahoo profile to see that I had played in 2 other leagues with this guy. In 2008 I was the commish of the league he and I were in. Also, in 2008 baseball we played in the same league. There was NEVER one incident of anyone cheating and I was the commish. Ask him. I have no history of cheating. I happened to get unlucky and invite the wrong guy into our league. Thats it.
By the way, that league was FREE Yahoo!
Last edited by spartanfan22; 08-25-2009 at 06:14 PM.
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08-25-2009, 06:40 PM
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Post the Private messages so we know it's not a scam.
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08-25-2009, 07:00 PM
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LMFAO. it took this clown 3 days to make up the excuse about his "friend" apparently being the cheating team. Give me a break. And yet he acts like a ***** and deletes everyone's team that disagrees with his ass.
The fact is he knew the cheating was going on for 4 days and did nothing about it. That tells me he was a partner in all this. Run along cheater
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08-25-2009, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parrot Head
LMFAO. it took this clown 3 days to make up the excuse about his "friend" apparently being the cheating team. Give me a break. And yet he acts like a ***** and deletes everyone's team that disagrees with his ass.
The fact is he knew the cheating was going on for 4 days and did nothing about it. That tells me he was a partner in all this. Run along cheater
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Yes, it took me a week to post the information on our league site about my classmate. Sorry that I actually wanted to talk to the guy first to get his side of things before I make comments about him.
Listen, this is like the debates people have about abortion, it just goes round and round and round and round for ever.
I have said my peace. You have repeated you'rs over and over and over. All that I posted above is the truth. Nothing in there is false. Could you please stop PMing me. Start you own league and just be done with this. This issue really doesnt need this much of your attention.
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08-25-2009, 11:55 PM
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Here is Mitch C's story
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In response to this, there is a real side to the story. What Parrot posted his true, I concur with his version of the events. We shared information throughout the entire incident.
In response to Androids comments.
First, nobody threatened him as he accused primarily me of doing in that league. I have the messages sent to him and I have shared them with others who concur with the fact he was never threatened.
All we wanted was him to admit he cheated, and at first he did to Parrot, then backtracked and said he was kidding. I did send him messages asking him to admit he cheated, as did others. There were no threats.
We were ignored for a number of days, then the excuses started, untimately resulting in the story we were all fed about his old college buddy.
It took him a week or so to tell us what "really happened". He gave that "old college buddy" story as the excuse, which nobody buyed into. I was actually already banned a few days before the story came out, so this actually could have been a two week process.
We were also able to figure out that not only Android, but his buddy logged onto the league website at the same exact time on the same exact day.
Out of the hundreds of millions of people in this World, two out of 12 will log into the same website at the exact same time?
His buddy was also the only one in the league who didn't have contact information out there so he could verify the story, nor did he ever speak up in Androids defense. Since Android was able to discuss it with him and he is his friend, wouldn't his friend speak up for him so he could get off the hook for being accused of being a cheater? Only version we got was from Android.
Android can justify this in his own mind, and I don't care if I was in a league before with him where he was commish and nothing went wrong, that doesn't matter. Things change, people change.
All I know is fantasy sports take a alot of time, and you expect the person running the league to be fair, what I saw go down was not on the legit side.
What got me banned from that league was because I started a thread about this on the RCMB fantasy sports page. Android was not responding to the messages being sent to him, and was not responding to the messages on the league board, so I posted it there to call him out.
I even offered an olive branch to Android, and the return message I received was more obscene than anything I ever sent to him. It was too late at that point, when I called him out on the RCMB, his best response was to lock me out to silence me and prevent further damage.
He was upset I ruined his reputation, and now he could no longer do fantasy sports on the RCMB. That must not have been that upsetting, he changed his user name, and started right back up again. That is where it gets odd, if he did nothing wrong, why go by another user name?
TIFWIW. I am dropping all players I can in this league. If you stick around, good luck. If you drop out, you made a wise decision.
Like I said earlier, these leagues take alot of time, this is not something I am willing to invest my time in again with him running it.
Sorry this is so long, but another version of what happened is necessary for you to make an informed decision on how you want to spend your fantasy football season. My season won't be spent involved in this league, I already put up with this earlier this year.
Not going down this road again.
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08-26-2009, 09:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parrot Head
Here is Mitch C's story
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I'll take these 1 by one:
#1 I was being sarcastic to Parrot Head when I admitted I cheated. If I was serious I would have told everybody
#2 What "others" harrassed me with PM's and RCMB threads. It was 2 people, Parrot and Chin. There were no "others". I didnt get one single msg from anybody else on PM's. They were both sending dozens to me.
#3 Holy Crap, two people were on the internet at the same time. Maybe we should report this to NBC!
#4 I changed my name because there is no way I could play ever again here under the last name, not because I cheated but because you and Parrot went nuts and took this to tRCMB.
#5 I already explained that it took me a week to explain the issue with my classmate to the league because I wanted to talk to him first and see what he was thinking before I wrote to everyone. What is the big deal. I think most rational people might want to do the same thing. Maybe he was benching his roster for everyone and it started with me, maybe his son F'd with his team(it wouldnt have surprised me), maybe was trying to quit, or maybe he was trying to give me an advantage. All those things are possible. I wanted to find out. Sorry.
#6 Yeah, I can see how this would have gone if my classmate wrote a message to the league. This is EXACTLY what would have happened...........
Classmate: Guys, what Spartanfan22 is saying is true. I benched my roster and he really didnt know about it. I stand by his comments.
Parrot: You are just Spartanfan22 writing this message because you have 2 teams. You arent real. This is fake.
Chin: This means nothing because I dont believe spartanfan22 anyway so this doesnt prove a thing. This could just be spartanfan22 writing this.
If he would have posted anything nobody would have believed him. It would have been useless. However, I would be happy ask him to write to the league in baseball to explain everything but something tells me that would go over like a fart in church.
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09-24-2009, 09:49 PM
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He lost. Cheaters never win
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11-07-2009, 11:38 AM
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bump. piece of **** deleted my team again. This time in the football league. **** you spartanfan22
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