'09 MI C DaShonte Riley (Syracuse Verbal)

Stats · 11-21-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by burnsmi4

he is def a project

But the glimpses he's shown have been

. That Peach Jam performance was the stuff legends are made of.

presto34 · 11-21-2008, 03:29 PM

No commitment for Riley

Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting - Riley does not sign, re-opens recruitment

Taco John · 11-21-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Armchair Quarterback

Is this old news

Georgetown recruit DaShonte Riley informed coach John Thompson earlier this week that he will decommit from the Hoyas. The 6-foot-11, 220-pound center from Detroit Country Day (Bloomfield Hills, Mich.) gave the Hoyas an oral commitment last summer but changed his mind after taking his official visit to Georgetown earlier this fall.
"[Riley] just said after he returned from his official visit that he didn't feel like it was the right fit for him," Detroit Country Day coach Kurt Keener said. "I know his mother felt that he had committed a little too early in the process. They discussed the situation after he returned from his official visit, and he called the staff at Georgetown recently and informed them he would be reopening his recruitment.
"My feeling is that it is now doubtful that he will end up at Georgetown."

That's got to be a kick in the groin to have a kid committed, spend the money to bring him in on the official visit, wine and dine him, just to have that be the deciding factor in his decommitment.

TheDoctorIsIn · 11-21-2008, 03:33 PM

Wasn't he a 5star recruit at one point?

Stats · 11-21-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by A. Gizzle

Alex Legion part II

Not even close. Sure, same HS, but there's no crazy parents or guardians, no ripping Coach Keener to the Free Press, no huge amounts of commitments and de-commitments, no Billy Clyde Gillespie, no transfers, no new rumors of different schools every week. His recruitment was pretty straight forward: considered a stud at one point, but his serious effort issues caused MSU and just about everyone else to back way off, and he committed to Georgetown while his stock was at an all time low. If he has a good year this year, there's a very good chance that he'll have a host of offers to choose from, possibly including MSU.

BobbySkeebo · 11-21-2008, 04:03 PM

So I'm not a recruiting expert...
But does this mean he may come to MSU?

I realize that we already have two big men locked up for 2009, but would we want Riley? He's ranked higher at Scout and lower than Nix or Sherman at Rivals, but you can never tell who's going to pan out at the rankings these guys are all at.

Would he want to come to MSU?

Basically why do we care if he decommits from Georgetown? Is he going to end up at Michigan?

Also, couldn't hurt having a Dwight Howard look-alike on the team"

Taco John · 11-21-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbySkeebo

So I'm not a recruiting expert...
But does this mean he may come to MSU?

I realize that we already have two big men locked up for 2009, but would we want Riley? He's ranked higher at Scout and lower than Nix or Sherman at Rivals, but you can never tell who's going to pan out at the rankings these guys are all at.

Would he want to come to MSU?

Basically why do we care if he decommits from Georgetown? Is he going to end up at Michigan?

Also, couldn't hurt having a Dwight Howard look-alike on the team"

He'll end up being very hotly recruited in the late signing period. If he just shuts his recruiting down and has a good year, a 6'10" top-150 player available to fill gaps, be the missing piece, or replace a guy who left unexpectedly would have his pick of schools.

Stats · 11-21-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbySkeebo

So I'm not a recruiting expert...
But does this mean he may come to MSU?

I realize that we already have two big men locked up for 2009, but would we want Riley? He's ranked higher at Scout and lower than Nix or Sherman at Rivals, but you can never tell who's going to pan out at the rankings these guys are all at.

Would he want to come to MSU?

Basically why do we care if he decommits from Georgetown? Is he going to end up at Michigan?

obviously isn't too enamored with the big guys in the class of 2010 given that he hasn't even offered anyone yet. If Riley shows improvement this season and none of the 2010 guys separate themselves, you'd have to imagine that

would take him and then redshirt at least one if not two of the big guys from the 2009 class effectively bumping him (them) to the 2010 class. Riley's just got so damn much potential that

will have to at least take another look....

burnsmi4 · 11-21-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by StatsETC

But the glimpses he's shown have been

. That Peach Jam performance was the stuff legends are made of.

his inconsistencies are rediculous. i watched him through the summer and he would have a great game in one and then the next would go for 4pts 3 boards. there is no excuse for that. i have questioned his motivation in the past. if izzo does get him, do not expect very much for 2 years

bpmcgant · 11-21-2008, 09:28 PM

Sounds like Quise with the inconsistencies and potential.

bukdow · 11-22-2008, 11:23 AM

This kid is nowhere near a dominant DI player. He couldn`t even dominate class B high school basketball. This will end up being a blessing in disguise for Georgetown.

GRR Spartan · 11-23-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Armchair Quarterback

Is this old news

Georgetown recruit DaShonte Riley informed coach John Thompson earlier this week that he will decommit from the Hoyas. The 6-foot-11, 220-pound center from Detroit Country Day (Bloomfield Hills, Mich.) gave the Hoyas an oral commitment last summer but changed his mind after taking his official visit to Georgetown earlier this fall.
"[Riley] just said after he returned from his official visit that he didn't feel like it was the right fit for him," Detroit Country Day coach Kurt Keener said. "I know his mother felt that he had committed a little too early in the process. They discussed the situation after he returned from his official visit, and he called the staff at Georgetown recently and informed them he would be reopening his recruitment.
"My feeling is that it is now doubtful that he will end up at Georgetown."

Translation: $treet agent$ told DeShote's moma there are schools out there that will "help" her son much more than Georgetown.

bpmcgant · 11-23-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Translation: $treet agent$ told DeShote's moma there are schools out there that will "help" her son much more than Georgetown.

Any substance to this accusation? Or are you just making a blanket assumption? I think we make far too many of those on this board.

calispartan · 11-24-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Translation: $treet agent$ told DeShote's moma there are schools out there that will "help" her son much more than Georgetown.

When his new top 3 is released to feature Kentucky, Memphis, and Oregon that this will be proven true (I won't be shocked)

DocB · 12-01-2008, 09:02 AM

Watched a couple games of his at Lansing Eastern in a scrimmage. I really was not impressed at all by him. In his first game against Eastern, he looked fairly weak and uninterested in what was going on in the game. Eastern's tallest player was Henton at about 6'5", and Riley rarely posted up, called for the ball, attacked the rim or anything that could be mistaken for desire or effort.

Eastern beat DCD in overtime, a team that will maybe finish in the middle of the Lansing league. He did have a couple of blocks, but those were on players 6' and he did not do anything to keep those guys from consistently driving to the basket and challenging him.

Second game I saw was against Pershing. I was very surprised with Nix and how well he looked. The only previous time I saw Nix was against Saginaw in the finals, and frankly, he looked bad then. He dropped some weight, and looked agile for a man his size on the interior. He called for the ball and posted almost every possession, and Pershing did not hesitate to give him the ball (impressed with how well the high school kids from P understood the giving him touches almost every possession would be a huge plus). He has some nifty moves on the interior with his back to the basket and showed good hands and feet. Reality is, he is not going to beat people down the court and he simply can't really jump. However, he did not look like he was getting burned down the court at all.

Back to Riley in this game. He really only had one move I remember. He had a drop step dunk on a 6'5" kid that was nice. Honestly, I don't think he did a darn thing the rest of the game. Nix definitely looked more polished, aggressive, and overall impressive between the two.

In fact, I thought Kirk was by far DCD's best player. He reminded me of a poor man's Al Horford when he was in high school. He is long, had some good post moves and was their best rebounder.

The Armchair Quarterback · 12-01-2008, 06:32 PM

Once Nix loses a ton of weight he will be fine. Hopefully he turns into the Pitt center.

4-3Stunt · 12-02-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoctorIsIn

Wasn't he a 5star recruit at one point?

Yes but that was due to him being 6-11 in 8th grade and getting a ton of early hype. Riley is a major project and no longer has a Michigan State offer. If you give Riley a ship in 2009 that means saying no to a stud like Trey Zeigler in 2010. Jamil Wilson is the only 2009 recruit with the current Michigan State offer. Riley is so much of a project he no longer has a Michigan offer. Sorry but if the kid is not good enough to play at Michigan no way in heck will Tom Izzo ever offer.

Chi Town Sparty · 12-02-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

Translation: $treet agent$ told DeShote's moma there are schools out there that will "help" her son much more than Georgetown.

That's a BS acqusation on so many levels. I'm sure a 17year old kid can't change his mind. There's got to be some sinister street agent at the heart of it. Who was the street agent for the Iowa OL commit that signed with MSU?

Topopo · 12-07-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi Town Sparty

That's a BS acqusation on so many levels. I'm sure a 17year old kid can't change his mind. There's got to be some sinister street agent at the heart of it. Who was the street agent for the Iowa OL commit that signed with MSU?

Sadly, it probably isn't BS. Riley has some sketchy circumstances that also lead to Izzo not recruiting him.

The Armchair Quarterback · 12-07-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Topopo

Sadly, it probably isn't BS. Riley has some sketchy circumstances that also lead to Izzo not recruiting him.

What street agent hangs with a 3 star

MSUtopia · 12-07-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DocB

Watched a couple games of his at Lansing Eastern in a scrimmage. I really was not impressed at all by him. In his first game against Eastern, he looked fairly weak and uninterested in what was going on in the game. Eastern's tallest player was Henton at about 6'5", and Riley rarely posted up, called for the ball, attacked the rim or anything that could be mistaken for desire or effort.

Eastern beat DCD in overtime, a team that will maybe finish in the middle of the Lansing league. He did have a couple of blocks, but those were on players 6' and he did not do anything to keep those guys from consistently driving to the basket and challenging him.

Second game I saw was against Pershing. I was very surprised with Nix and how well he looked. The only previous time I saw Nix was against Saginaw in the finals, and frankly, he looked bad then. He dropped some weight, and looked agile for a man his size on the interior. He called for the ball and posted almost every possession, and Pershing did not hesitate to give him the ball (impressed with how well the high school kids from P understood the giving him touches almost every possession would be a huge plus). He has some nifty moves on the interior with his back to the basket and showed good hands and feet. Reality is, he is not going to beat people down the court and he simply can't really jump. However, he did not look like he was getting burned down the court at all.

Back to Riley in this game. He really only had one move I remember. He had a drop step dunk on a 6'5" kid that was nice. Honestly, I don't think he did a darn thing the rest of the game. Nix definitely looked more polished, aggressive, and overall impressive between the two.

In fact, I thought Kirk was by far DCD's best player. He reminded me of a poor man's Al Horford when he was in high school. He is long, had some good post moves and was their best rebounder.

How about Appling? Also I have heard a lot of players described as the the "poor man's" whoever. What do you mean by that? Does that mean he is not as good as but reminiscent of the richer one. Or that someday they could be as good as or what?

DocB · 12-08-2008, 08:28 AM

Appling looked good. I only saw Pershing against DCD and you could tell they really were focused on getting the ball inside and getting Nix a touch on every possession....which is good, especially for a high school team.

Appling has a very smooth stroke and a smooth aspect to his game. He seemed like he was very content with playing within the offense and not forcing anything. The one aspect that was impressive was his defense. Very high intensity and an in your face defense.

You could tell he is a competitor out there (same with Nix too) and also has a little bit of a mean streak to him. In terms of anyone he reminded me of, possibly a similar style to Anthony Roberson from Saginaw a couple years back. He doesn't seem like a pure point, but can definitely handle the ball, but not really a pure SG, although he seems like you could play him there too.

lostwarder · 12-08-2008, 11:49 AM

I've heard that Appling in addition to being a solid reliable scorer takes as much pride in playing lock down defense as well. Also it sounds like the guys we're bringing in, (Roe/green/Luscious this year, Nix/Wilson hopefully next year and Appling/byrd 2010) seem to be mentally tough kids that play with swagger and a mean streak.

GRR Spartan · 12-11-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi Town Sparty

That's a BS acqusation on so many levels. I'm sure a 17year old kid can't change his mind. There's got to be some sinister street agent at the heart of it. Who was the street agent for the Iowa OL commit that signed with MSU?

The Iowa player changed his mind after the 6th or 7th arrest of members of the Iowa football team in less than 2 months and the heat on Ferentz was high.

If you don't think street agents don't have a hand in decommits this early I have a bridge to sell you quick.

Alex Legion, Anthony Roberson, Al Horford, Devendorf among others are all players who decommitted and ended up at schools with strong ties to well connected AAU coaches and street agents.

Riley is a mystery anyway. I have seen him play on several occasions and he reminds me of Joe Barry Carroll from Purdue. You never knew when he was going to play hard from game to game.

bpmcgant · 12-11-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GRR Spartan

The Iowa player changed his mind after the 6th or 7th arrest of members of the Iowa football team in less than 2 months and the heat on Ferentz was high.

If you don't think street agents don't have a hand in decommits this early I have a bridge to sell you quick.

Alex Legion, Anthony Roberson, Al Horford, Devendorf among others are all players who decommitted and ended up at schools with strong ties to well connected AAU coaches and street agents.

Riley is a mystery anyway. I have seen him play on several occasions and he reminds me of Joe Barry Carroll from Purdue. You never knew when he was going to play hard from game to game.

A couple comments.

First, why do people think Ferentz job was ever in trouble? It's the University of Iowa, they don't have a huge base to recruit from, yet the guy gets them into bowl games. He's safe.

Second, I have to go with Chi Town on this one, especially since I posted a similar comment earlier. I'm sure there are some unethical activities out there, but to single out a kid for decommitting or committing to a school with "ties" to AAU programs is a pretty bold statement. The NCAA investigates these things and until someone gets sanctions we should take the high road and consider them clean rather than make unwarranted accusations, unless you've seen him given money or something the rest of us are unaware of. In which case you should probably make a call to the NCAA yourself to report that action.

I just try to have a positive energy when we get kids to commit and when they go elsewhere I wish them the best of luck and refocus on my program and where we go from there.