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06-12-2008, 09:58 AM
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I just have a bad feeling this kid's going to end up at Dook.
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I don't think duke has offered...
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06-12-2008, 11:36 AM
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Don't they look this way every year? You'd think they'd win the NC annually or something. It's amazing how it rarely works out that way. Duke is generally has similar talent, but the end result is the same, very few championships to show for it considering the players they there.
Hopefully Jamil will bite the bullet and commit here anyway.
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That all said, I'm kind of surprised that Duke hasn't offered Jamil yet.
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I'm not. Mike knows Izzo's been on top of this one since the opening of jump street and he probably feels the distance will not be a positive factor for him either. That being said, he may decide to offer soon.
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06-12-2008, 12:27 PM
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I don't think duke has offered...
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McDonald was Duke's Plan A. Coach K doesn't carpet offer all of the top recruits like Matta, Self and Donavan. He offers one guy and if that doesn't work out, he then offers the next guy. His reason for doing that is he feels that it makes the offer mean more when you're the only player (at your position) that currently holds an offer from Duke.
Whether or not Wilson is the next wing who receives an offer from Duke...we'll find out soon.
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06-12-2008, 04:36 PM
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Me too. How I see it...if Kershefski really wants him, he's going to get him. It's hard to compete with a kid's favorite school growing up...especially when that school is still a top 5 national program. Hopefully the distance factor and Izzo's early bird offer both play key roles in his decision. You won't catch me holding my breath though.
It's too bad they stopped recruiting Howell. He would've been a solid plan B just in case.
That all said, I'm kind of surprised that Duke hasn't offered Jamil yet.
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Wow, you guys need to have a little confidence. All recruiting situations are unique, and we need to look at each by themselves. I say that because I think many are scarred by the Strickland recruitment....kid looks like a MSU lock, but states UNC is his childhood favorite, and then jumps at their offer. I think Wilson's recruitment is very different, and here is why:
1. Kid is from Wisconsin. Even with the tragic passing of his mother, the kid says that location will be a factor. Perhaps not a deciding factor, but one nonetheless.
2. Kid is friends with Luscious and Roe, both of whom are recruiting him hard by the sounds of things.
3. Kid knows Izzo, and has stated that the lack of contact on  's part was because of Crean, and that shows  's character.
4.  is making him his number one priority right now, and Duke has not even offered. From the way it sounds, Duke has been only making sporadic contact, and, if you are a kid who is interested in "love" (which I don't think he is), then you know that you are most definitely a plan A recruit.
5. It sounds like his father is handling much of his recruitment, and  shines when parents are involved (though I don't think he probably has an advantage over Coach K here, I would say he is probably even).
6. Jamil will be waiting until March 09 to announce. MSU can wait. If we don't get him, we just look to '10. Duke may not be able to wait, because they only offer a select few who they want to get (they don't do the "you snooze you lose" method with a bunch of recruits holding offers, and the first one to commit gets it.) So, if Duke waits for March, and loses out on Boynton and Wilson, they are going to be scrambling to fill the class. They have many more prospects out there who are more sure things to commit quickly, and that would be equal, or perhaps a little better or worse than Wilson (depending on who you ask). Why not just go that route?
7. Trust in  .
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06-12-2008, 04:44 PM
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1. Kid is from Wisconsin. Even with the tragic passing of his mother, the kid says that location will be a factor. Perhaps not a deciding factor, but one nonetheless
3. Kid knows Izzo, and has stated that the lack of contact on  's part was because of Crean, and that shows  's character.
7. Trust in  .
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On the first one, location is a big factor. Dad has stated he wants to be able to drive to as many of Jamil's games as possible. From Racine to EL it is around 5 hours.
On the second one, Wilson was heading to Marquette to play for Crean, with Crean not there and Marquette taking 2 other kids, they aren't actively going after Wilson. However, Wilson doesn't seem interested in following Crean to Indiana (at least for now). Izzo taught Crean what he knows, if Wilson wanted to play for Crean why not for the guy who mentored Crean? Another big draw.
On the final one.....of course.
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06-12-2008, 06:21 PM
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On the first one, location is a big factor. Dad has stated he wants to be able to drive to as many of Jamil's games as possible. From Racine to EL it is around 5 hours.
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Not to mention, Racine to Minneapolis/Madison/Iowa City/Champaign/Evanston/West Lafayette/Bloomington/Ann Arbor/Columbus would all be shorter than or slightly longer than Racine to EL. Racine to anywhere in the ACC = two or three days of driving. Hell, even if Jamil's family moved to Durham, they've still got games everywhere from Boston to Miami. MSU is far and away the most logical choice when distance is considered.
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06-12-2008, 08:48 PM
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That all said, I'm kind of surprised that Duke hasn't offered Jamil yet.
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Might be waiting to see if he will be all set academically...there was some buzz awhile back that he had some work to do. Nothing major but that may be the hold up.
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06-13-2008, 07:22 PM
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Might be waiting to see if he will be all set academically...there was some buzz awhile back that he had some work to do. Nothing major but that may be the hold up.
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What I don't find in this thread is, will Wisconsin become a factor? Especially if proximity/location is a major factor for the family? I would hate it, but why not Madison? Has weasel-Bo been recruiting this kid?
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06-13-2008, 08:01 PM
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What I don't find in this thread is, will Wisconsin become a factor? Especially if proximity/location is a major factor for the family? I would hate it, but why not Madison? Has weasel-Bo been recruiting this kid?
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Doesn't look like they will be a player with him. I don't believe they have any scholarships left. And as I said, there is chance (probably small) that he won't be all set academically.
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06-13-2008, 08:17 PM
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What I don't find in this thread is, will Wisconsin become a factor? Especially if proximity/location is a major factor for the family? I would hate it, but why not Madison? Has weasel-Bo been recruiting this kid?
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Bo likes him plenty, but Wisconsin doesn't have any scholarships available. Of course, when prompted about said scholarship situation, Wisconsin fans insist that "one will open up if Jamil wants to come." Then, when you question how this might happen, they go ballistic because you've "questioned Bo's character." Moral of the story is: kid's not going to UW, but don't tell the Badgers that.
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06-14-2008, 10:49 PM
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Bo likes him plenty, but Wisconsin doesn't have any scholarships available. Of course, when prompted about said scholarship situation, Wisconsin fans insist that "one will open up if Jamil wants to come." Then, when you question how this might happen, they go ballistic because you've "questioned Bo's character." Moral of the story is: kid's not going to UW, but don't tell the Badgers that. 
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06-14-2008, 11:29 PM
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 Mark Dantonio
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Originally Posted by TripleGreen
McDonald was Duke's Plan A. Coach K doesn't carpet offer all of the top recruits like Matta, Self and Donavan. He offers one guy and if that doesn't work out, he then offers the next guy. His reason for doing that is he feels that it makes the offer mean more when you're the only player (at your position) that currently holds an offer from Duke.
Whether or not Wilson is the next wing who receives an offer from Duke...we'll find out soon.
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If that's the case I wonder if Jamil's March 8th decision date is a turn off for K. If Wilson ends up going elsewhere, K will have missed out on most of the good wings.
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06-15-2008, 12:17 AM
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If that's the case I wonder if Jamil's March 8th decision date is a turn off for K. If Wilson ends up going elsewhere, K will have missed out on most of the good wings.
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im pretty sure he will let the coaches know where he is going before March 8th
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06-15-2008, 07:20 PM
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im pretty sure he will let the coaches know where he is going before March 8th
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Well the one of two things will happen. 1) It won't be much before 3/8 that he lets them know, or 2) The presser will be awfully anti-climactic when all the other schools that he is interested suddenly offer their plan B wing.
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06-17-2008, 11:36 PM
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06-20-2008, 12:59 AM
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Bo likes him plenty, but Wisconsin doesn't have any scholarships available. Of course, when prompted about said scholarship situation, Wisconsin fans insist that "one will open up if Jamil wants to come." Then, when you question how this might happen, they go ballistic because you've "questioned Bo's character." Moral of the story is: kid's not going to UW, but don't tell the Badgers that. 
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I think Wisconsin's involvement with Jamil has been tough to figure out. One story you hear they're recruiting him harder than anyone, another they're not all that interested. Plenty of Badgers fans have said for a long time that Jamil wouldn't be heading to Madison, for various reasons. I don't think grades had much to do with it. But it's hard to say where Bo stands on him, or where Jamil stands on UW.
I haven't heard much news in UW recruiting of late. Might be a dead period for all I know. I don't think they'll have any scholarships available. But, last I heard they were recruiting kids for '09 or '10 as if they did. What does it mean? Probably not much. I don't see Jamil in a UW jersey. I don't think many Wisconsin fans believe that he'll ever be in Madison, at least in home whites. But not much info has been reliable and forthcoming regarding Wilson.
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