'09 OH C Garrick Sherman (MSU Verbal) - Page 5 - SpartanTailgate.com

'86 · 03-18-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SchaumburgSparty

I'm confused here....After next season, who is our starting center? Herzog is the only big man that will be left at center. From my understanding, Roe is a SF/PF type player. You would think we would be on more big centers nationally pitching playing time. As an "elite" program and a supposed weak class in MI, are we on any bigs out there? I trust Izzo knows what he's doing, but what is our starting line up?

Lucas
Allen
Morgan
Roe
Herzog

Now that I see that, I'm not worried actually.

Talking the '09-'10 season:

-Herzog has consumed truckloads of pasta, we may have something there by that time
-Sherman is a true freshman, and anyone else we pick up
-Roe and Green would probably make a great, smaller frontcourt by themselves

TheDoctorIsIn · 03-18-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SchaumburgSparty

I'm confused here....After next season, who is our starting center? Herzog is the only big man that will be left at center. From my understanding, Roe is a SF/PF type player. You would think we would be on more big centers nationally pitching playing time. As an "elite" program and a supposed weak class in MI, are we on any bigs out there? I trust Izzo knows what he's doing, but what is our starting line up?

Lucas
Allen
Morgan
Roe
Herzog

Now that I see that, I'm not worried actually.

Unless Morgan really struggles next year, I don't see him coming back for a senior season.

Lucas
Luscious
Allen
Summers
Roe
Herzog
Green

Gives us 7 deep of likely solid talent. Dahlman could get better, he will at least play some relief minutes by his senior season. Same with Thornton, who would be a red shirt soph at the time. Fred Smith may get some minutes.

As for a second big man. I wouldn't be surprised if Sherman gets some early playing time like Suton his freshman year.

Depth will not be a problem. Most of these players are only going to get better. Plus, having two speedy PGs will ease the play of everyone else.

Donnyrotten · 03-18-2008, 10:22 AM

I spent a week in Kenton last year about this time while i was still on the road.
A town about the size of a Coldwater/Marshall,pretty gritty blue collar type town about an hour or so northeast of Columbus.
Hopefully he can ball.His stats sure look impressive as a junior

Dr. Dunkenstein · 03-18-2008, 10:26 AM

Don't we need a guard in the 09 class that 6'3 or higher. Walton is gone next year and Lucas and Korie will be challenging guarding bigger guards. Strickland really hurt.

Pausanias · 03-18-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by '86

I read that he was offered in December. How does this work? Have we already offered Riley and Still!? From recent reports on those two, this guy sounds infinitely better though he is ranked lower. Shouldn't we be very happy that Sherman committed and not one of the Michigan players (the centers, not the forwards)!?

Sherman is more consistent than the MI bigs, but has a lower ceiling and thus a lower ranking. This is a good/bad signing depending on the risk you're looking to take on.

Pausanias · 03-18-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dunkenstein

Don't we need a guard in the 09 class that 6'3 or higher. Walton is gone next year and Lucas and Korie will be challenging guarding bigger guards. Strickland really hurt.

Strickland would have been a luxury. We have Chris Allen to play in the backcourt and he's around 6'4". Now if we lose out on Appling, that'll really hurt. Think we'll take another big and a SF depending on what's out there.

Pausanias · 03-18-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SchaumburgSparty

I'm confused here....After next season, who is our starting center? Herzog is the only big man that will be left at center. From my understanding, Roe is a SF/PF type player. You would think we would be on more big centers nationally pitching playing time. As an "elite" program and a supposed weak class in MI, are we on any bigs out there? I trust Izzo knows what he's doing, but what is our starting line up?

Lucas
Allen
Morgan
Roe
Herzog

Now that I see that, I'm not worried actually.

The '09 big man class in MI was thought to be tremendous last year, then everyone disappeared and now it's just so-so. It's tough to get started on national recruits this late in the game after your previous targets are fighting their way to the basement.

'86 · 03-18-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pausanias

Sherman is more consistent than the MI bigs, but has a lower ceiling and thus a lower ranking. This is a good/bad signing depending on the risk you're looking to take on.

So, do Riley and Still have offers out there!? I read that Sherman was offered in December. I didn't think we were in the position of waiting to see which kid would choose us. Jamil Wilson, that's another story.

Either way, I'm glad to have a proven basketball player, and not just a great athlete whom we'd like to transform into a basketball player. All the talk about his weight, what's that!? Imagine the whining if we had signed Still!

Jersey Spartan · 03-18-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by St8 Law

People were saying the same things with Strickland. I will not get excited until he signs.

Strickland is from New Jersey. Appling is from Detroit.

Big Difference.

One is from out of the midwest.

TripleGreen · 03-18-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by '86

Shouldn't we be very happy that Sherman committed and not one of the Michigan centers!?

A big and resounding YES.

I'd much rather have Sherman than Riley or Nix.

TripleGreen · 03-18-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SchaumburgSparty

I'm confused here....After next season, who is our starting center? Herzog is the only big man that will be left at center. From my understanding, Roe is a SF/PF type player. You would think we would be on more big centers nationally pitching playing time. As an "elite" program and a supposed weak class in MI, are we on any bigs out there? I trust Izzo knows what he's doing, but what is our starting line up?

Lucas
Allen
Morgan
Roe
Herzog

Now that I see that, I'm not worried actually.

2008	2009	2010	2011	2012
Raymar Morgan	Raymar Morgan	Freshman	Sophomore	Junior
Kalin Lucas	Kalin Lucas	Kalin Lucas	Freshman	Sophomore
Tom Herzog	Tom Herzog	Tom Herzog	Freshman	Sophomore
Isaiah Dahlman	Isaiah Dahlman	Freshman	Sophomore	Junior
Durrell Summers	Durrell Summers	Durrell Summers	Freshman	Sophomore
Delvon Roe	Delvon Roe	Delvon Roe	Delvon Roe	Freshman
Chris Allen	Chris Allen	Chris Allen	Freshman	Sophomore
Korie Lucious	Korie Lucious	Korie Lucious	Korie Lucious	Freshman
Idong Ibok	Freshman	Sophomore	Junior	Senior
Marquise Gray	Freshman	Sophomore	Junior	Senior
Goran Suton	Garrick Sherman	Garrick Sherman	Garrick Sherman	Garrick Sherman
Draymond Green	Draymond Green	Draymond Green	Draymond Green	Freshman
Travis Walton	Freshman	Sophomore	Junior	Senior

Austin Thornton	Austin Thornton	Austin Thornton	Austin Thornton

Natron the Spartan · 03-18-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleGreen

A big and resounding YES.

I'd much rather have Sherman than Riley or Nix.

Absolutely agree, but people get so carried away by perception that they can't get over it. It just seems that Riley is going to absolutely tumble in the upcoming rankings.

TripleGreen · 03-18-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SchaumburgSparty

From my understanding, Roe is a SF/PF type player.

Roe will be a very good college power forward. I wouldn't worry too much about that one. He has an 86" (7'2") wingspan that allows him to play a good amount taller than his 6'8" frame would suggest.

H-to-the-Izzo · 03-18-2008, 11:51 AM

Could this guy turn into one of those prototypical wisconsin-style bigs a la brian butch???

'86 · 03-18-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleGreen

A big and resounding YES.

I'd much rather have Sherman than Riley or Nix.

Thank you, that's the way it sounds, anyway. These coaches have got to see what the recruiting services don't. On the surface, it seems like Sherman is going to be trading places with guys currently ranked higher than him. I'd still like to get confirmation, this guy had an offer on the table for months while the Michigan centers have not?

Divided42 · 03-18-2008, 12:12 PM

Ari, I was very impressed with Appling. He had about 3 fouls in 3 minutes in the 1st half of the semi's and it showed pershing struggled without him out there. He came back in the 2nd half and got after it and pershing climbed right back into the game. He's pretty good shooter for a sophomore, good handle, and very good athlete I would love for him to be in the green and white. I was completely unimpressed with Nix, but I will say this for him pershing plays full court press defense that does not suit him at all as you can imagine. The pershing coach would take him out so they could press better and every time Romulus would get every rebound when he wasn't out there. He probably only played 20 to 25 minutes of the game because they took him out to press, he wasn't in any foul trouble. He may be unimpressive, but pershing needed him out there for rebounding at the very least. Having one of your best players sitting on the bench for half the game because of the style you play is just bad coaching in my mind.

Divided42 · 03-18-2008, 12:24 PM

Also, on Sherman Rivals Basketball Recruiting analyst Justin Young just said that the players will be re-ranked this spring and that he will be on the top 150 when it does. On Sherman lets not forget that he has 18 to 20 months before he plays for MSU. Plenty of time to add 20 lbs of muscle if he hits the weights.

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Donnyrotten RCMB Donor 5,000+ posts Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,847	I spent a week in Kenton last year about this time while i was still on the road. A town about the size of a Coldwater/Marshall,pretty gritty blue collar type town about an hour or so northeast of Columbus. Hopefully he can ball.His stats sure look impressive as a junior __________________ Rock and Roll never forgets, but Rock and Roller's do

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Dr. Dunkenstein 500+ posts Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 675	Don't we need a guard in the 09 class that 6'3 or higher. Walton is gone next year and Lucas and Korie will be challenging guarding bigger guards. Strickland really hurt. __________________ Final Four and More baby

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H-to-the-Izzo 1,000+ posts Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,719	Could this guy turn into one of those prototypical wisconsin-style bigs a la brian butch???

03-18-2008, 12:12 PM	#116 (permalink)
Divided42 New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 22	Ari, I was very impressed with Appling. He had about 3 fouls in 3 minutes in the 1st half of the semi's and it showed pershing struggled without him out there. He came back in the 2nd half and got after it and pershing climbed right back into the game. He's pretty good shooter for a sophomore, good handle, and very good athlete I would love for him to be in the green and white. I was completely unimpressed with Nix, but I will say this for him pershing plays full court press defense that does not suit him at all as you can imagine. The pershing coach would take him out so they could press better and every time Romulus would get every rebound when he wasn't out there. He probably only played 20 to 25 minutes of the game because they took him out to press, he wasn't in any foul trouble. He may be unimpressive, but pershing needed him out there for rebounding at the very least. Having one of your best players sitting on the bench for half the game because of the style you play is just bad coaching in my mind.

03-18-2008, 12:24 PM	#117 (permalink)
Divided42 New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 22	Also, on Sherman Rivals Basketball Recruiting analyst Justin Young just said that the players will be re-ranked this spring and that he will be on the top 150 when it does. On Sherman lets not forget that he has 18 to 20 months before he plays for MSU. Plenty of time to add 20 lbs of muscle if he hits the weights.