'10 MI SG Keith Appling (MSU Verbal)

[StatsETC]

Originally Posted by hayes

I wouldn't say there is a good chance to add 4 inches. That would be a lot to grow in that time period no? It is possible, but probably not likely.

Which is why I said "an inch or four" because if he added just a couple, he'd still be easily tall enough to play SG in tB10. Hell, Neitzel was 6'0" and he was a a two time first teamer.

Originally Posted by Crow

I think he could be a PG with some work. A lot of his game is based on slashing/driving to the basket, so he would be more of a scoring type. If he grows a few inches he would be a nice "combo" guard

I don't see the SF thing at all, he played nothing but guard in the games i saw

Agreed. I'd like to see him off the ball but with the ability to slide over and run the show when the starting PG (McCallum ) is out, kind of like Charlie Bell used to.

[hayes]

Originally Posted by StatsETC

Which is why I said "an inch or four" because if he added just a couple, he'd still be easily tall enough to play SG in tB10. Hell, Neitzel was 6'0" and he was a a two time first teamer.



Agreed. I'd like to see him off the ball but with the ability to slide over and run the show when the starting PG (McCallum ) is out, kind of like Charlie Bell used to.

Fair enough.

[TripleGreen]

Originally Posted by StatsETC

Agreed. I'd like to see him off the ball but with the ability to slide over and run the show when the starting PG (McCallum ) is out, kind of like Charlie Bell used to.

Keith and Ray could be a real nice duo. I'm just slowly getting tired of these small MSU backcourts. One or two shortish guards is fine...but three or four (or five) players 6'4" and under is too many IMO. Remember when MSU had Mateen (6'2") and Charlie (6'3") and neither of those guys were considered thin or little...and then everybody else in the rotation was 6'6" and taller? Ahh those were the days.

[lostwarder]

Someone mentioned Keith having a big weekend and someone on Rivals posted a link to game stats over the weekend, thought you guys would enjoy it. Please delete this post if it violates rules but i don't think it does

Keith stats

[TripleGreen]

Originally Posted by lostwarder

Someone mentioned Keith having a big weekend and someone on Rivals posted a link to game stats over the weekend, thought you guys would enjoy it. Please delete this post if it violates rules but i don't think it does

Keith stats

Not bad. Not bad at all.

Percentages and Per Game Averages

Player	GP	FG%	3P%	FT%	REB-O	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	PTS
#1 Appling, Kieth	5	46.3	38.2	86.8	3.6-1.0	2.6	1.2	0.0	2.8	1.6	24.0
#5 Sims, Dion	5	48.8	43.8	75.0	4.4-1.8	0.6	0.4	0.0	0.8	1.8	10.6

[burnsmi4]

Saturday at the Bob Gibbons Tournament of Champions

Keith Appling scored 17 points a scrappy win over the Georgia Ballers. The class of 2010 isn't afraid to challenge players with the dribble. His approach to the game is like a seasoned 17 and under guard. There really isn't much fear to him. That's refreshing

Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting - TOC: Saturday

[Jersey Spartan]

A little Appling blurb in the recent Byrd ('10 Recruit) Article.

MSU makes play for Indiana sharpshooter

One particularly appealing aspect of the Spartans' recruiting pitch was their mention of their plans for the rest of the 2010 class.

"They said they had three scholarships for that 2010 class and wanted to make sure that he knew that he was one of the three," Mr. Byrd recalled. "They talked about the point guard. They need a point guard, a shooting guard and a big man. It sounded like they had already made some progress. They seemed pretty high on (Detroit Pershing guard Keith Appling) and they felt like he and Russell would make a pretty good pair in that 2010 class."

Appling's name resonated with Russell Byrd because of the importance he is placing the presence of a floor general that can deliver him the ball.

"I like run and gun (offenses)," Byrd said. "I also like point guards that know what I can do and just kind of kick it out when they want to, and know I will knock down shots for them."

[jonathonmyers]

So if taking the dad's word, the three positions for 2010 would be:

PG: Appling
SG: Byrd
PF: open (assuming this maybe be Horford)

2 questions, isn't Appling a SG just like this guy or could he move over? or would this mean that Izzo be willing to look to the natural PG recruit for the '11 class (Kearney) because he isn't very intrigued with the '10 class (Jones, McCallum?

[Old Hort]

Originally Posted by jonathonmyers

So if taking the dad's word, the three positions for 2010 would be:

PG: Appling
SG: Byrd
PF: open (assuming this maybe be Horford)

2 questions, isn't Appling a SG just like this guy or could he move over? or would this mean that Izzo be willing to look to the natural PG recruit for the '11 class (Kearney) because he isn't very intrigued with the '10 class (Jones, McCallum?

I think he is being recruited as a PG, not a SG. He is on the smaller side for a SG, but has been playing that position as of yet. He has a slasher/scorer's mentality, but could become a great scoring PG. I think ST8IZGR8 on Scout described him as a more athletic, quick Marcus Taylor type. That sounds good to me.

[bpmcgant]

Scout.com: Spartans Chasing Sophomore Byrd

I'm guessing from the title block of this article that we're about to offer Appling?

[TripleGreen]

Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting - More 2010 prospects shine at TOC

Tournament of Champions Top 2010 Performers – Part II

Can we please just offer the kid and get this recruitment over with. The fact that he hasn't received an offer yet is starting to concern me. I mean why? Is it because Izzo doesn't think he's a good enough "PG" prospect and might be too short for the available SG position?

[burnsmi4]

Originally Posted by TripleGreen

Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting - More 2010 prospects shine at TOC



Can we please just offer the kid and get this recruitment over with. The fact that he hasn't received an offer yet is starting to concern me. I mean why? Is it because Izzo doesn't think he's a good enough "PG" prospect and might be too short for the available SG position?

dude calm down. its 2008. Izzo has more pressing needs right now then getting him to commit right now. Let him finish the '09 class and then we can get appling

[TripleGreen]

Originally Posted by burnsmi4

dude calm down. its 2008. Izzo has more pressing needs right now then getting him to commit right now. Let him finish the '09 class and then we can get appling

True. A lot of time left, but if you want to wait for the 2009 class to be completed before they focus on Appling...then they might be waiting until next spring. That's a lot of time to give other programs to make up ground. Look around...2010 classes in the Big Ten are filling up, quick. Wisky, Illinois and OSU are already beginning to focus on 2011.

If you want him...you want him. If you don't...there's a reason.

[burnsmi4]

Originally Posted by TripleGreen

True. A lot of time left, but if you want to wait for the 2009 class to be completed before they focus on Appling...then they might be waiting until next spring. That's a lot of time to give other programs to make up ground. Look around...2010 classes in the Big Ten are filling up, quick. Wisky, Illinois and OSU are already beginning to focus on 2011.

If you want him...you want him. If you don't...there's a reason.

OK so if they are looking at 2011 then they are not looking at Appling. I wouldnt be surprised if the NCAA talks about having restrictions on how early in a high school kids career they can receive an offer. More and more kids commit early and either the school or the kid opens it back up based on a coach getting fired, wanting to go elsewhere, ect.

[TripleGreen]

Originally Posted by burnsmi4

OK so if they are looking at 2011 then they are not looking at Appling. I wouldnt be surprised if the NCAA talks about having restrictions on how early in a high school kids career they can receive an offer. More and more kids commit early and either the school or the kid opens it back up based on a coach getting fired, wanting to go elsewhere, ect.

I'm not too worried about other Big Ten programs going after Appling. Most of the top teams in the league are pretty set in their 2010 recruiting. But most OOC programs are just now getting their first real good look at Appling this summer and by all reports, he's been playing very well in the 17-U circuit. Offers (from strong programs) are going to start rolling in if they haven't already begun doing so. There are benefits and risks associated by holding an offer but one of those risks is allowing competing programs to show more tangible love why you're still making up your mind.

[IzzoisdaMan]

Originally Posted by TripleGreen

I'm not too worried about other Big Ten programs going after Appling. Most of the top teams in the league are pretty set in their 2010 recruiting. But most OOC programs are just now getting their first real good look at Appling this summer and by all reports, he's been playing very well in the 17-U circuit. Offers (from strong programs) are going to start rolling in if they haven't already begun doing so. There are benefits and risks associated by holding an offer but one of those risks is allowing competing programs to show more tangible love why you're still making up your mind.

While that is all true, if Appling really wants to be a Spartan, that tangible love from other programs won't matter (Dexter Strickland is a perfect example).

My guess is that as soon as Keith and his family visit East Lansing and sit down with the coaching staff, his recruitment will be over.

[Jersey Spartan]

Appling has an offer from MSU according to certain sources and Appling doesnt have an offer from MSU according to certain sources. I honestly believe he may not be a written offer but has been assured he will get one once he meets with Izzo in east lansing.

This isnt like the Strickland thing. Appling is a Michigan prospect. He's not from New Jersey, Texas, or California. Big Big Difference.

[VolSpartan]

Originally Posted by Jersey Spartan

This isnt like the Strickland thing. Appling is a Michigan prospect. He's not from New Jersey, Texas, or California. Big Big Difference.

That's not what Izzoisdaman was referring to, if that's what you were saying

[burnsmi4]

Originally Posted by TripleGreen

I'm not too worried about other Big Ten programs going after Appling. Most of the top teams in the league are pretty set in their 2010 recruiting. But most OOC programs are just now getting their first real good look at Appling this summer and by all reports, he's been playing very well in the 17-U circuit. Offers (from strong programs) are going to start rolling in if they haven't already begun doing so. There are benefits and risks associated by holding an offer but one of those risks is allowing competing programs to show more tangible love why you're still making up your mind.

I understand your point but that is not what Izzo does. Izzo does not look to a class 2 years ahead. I highly doubt Izzo is not talking to him. Im sure he talks to him constantly. But an official offer wont come until next year IMO

[Speacons]

Originally Posted by burnsmi4

I understand your point but that is not what Izzo does. Izzo does not look to a class 2 years ahead. I highly doubt Izzo is not talking to him. Im sure he talks to him constantly. But an official offer wont come until next year IMO

Yeah - Izzo never does that.

Best regards,
Russell Byrd

[Jersey Spartan]

Originally Posted by Speacons

Yeah - Izzo never does that.

Best regards,
Russell Byrd

Byrd has had a vist though. It's different.