Dream Class for 09 - SpartanTailgate.com

twig1318 · 04-07-2008, 04:38 PM

We still have 4 schollies left so who would you want to accompany Sherman for the 09 class. For me its
Jamil Wilson
Noel Johnson
Deshante Riley
Donavon Kirk

Realistically I wouldn't mind Howell either, and I know Riley looses focus but if he ever puts it together than we would have that post presence we have lacked since Paul Davis

Jersey Spartan · 04-07-2008, 06:28 PM

Only 4 for '09 at the most. If they take 4 in '09 that only leaves 2 for '10.

AASpartan · 04-07-2008, 07:07 PM

Garrick Sherman - C
Donnovan Kirk - PF
Richard Howell - SF
Ari Stewart - SF

Part of me likes Nix too, but he's probably a stretch. Especially if we're going to run.

Jersey Spartan · 04-07-2008, 07:56 PM

I have done this so many times and it never happens so im gonna wait and see. I would not be surprised if they only take three guys though in '09 so they can take three guys as well in '10.

The Armchair Quarterback · 04-07-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

Garrick Sherman - C
Donnovan Kirk - PF
Richard Howell - SF
Ari Stewart - SF

Part of me likes Nix too, but he's probably a stretch. Especially if we're going to run.

Why not Noel Johnson, his father played in the NBA. Good pedigree lines there.

AASpartan · 04-07-2008, 08:26 PM

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Why not Noel Johnson, his father played in the NBA. Good pedigree lines there.

Howell is bigger and a better rebounder...but it's just a list.

Jersey Spartan · 04-07-2008, 08:30 PM

Noel Johnson is a pipe dream. I would put his chances of coming to MSUs below Ari Stewerts.

Crow · 04-07-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

Garrick Sherman - C
Donnovan Kirk - PF
Richard Howell - SF
Ari Stewart - SF

Part of me likes Nix too, but he's probably a stretch. Especially if we're going to run.

Have you seen Nix play????

I hate to keep saying it, because it looked like the kid had a good attitude, he worked hard, teammates/crowd seemed to really like him...but man - he takes the term "project" to a whole new level. The guy has trouble finishing against guys half his size.

Honestly, I'm shocked that he's even a consideration. I hope for his sake that I'm wrong, but if he were to sign with MSU tomorrow...I'd be extremely worried about the state of msu basketball (at least as much as one could be with the signing of one recruit...but i'm just sayin')

AASpartan · 04-07-2008, 09:44 PM

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Have you seen Nix play????

I hate to keep saying it, because it looked like the kid had a good attitude, he worked hard, teammates/crowd seemed to really like him...but man - he takes the term "project" to a whole new level. The guy has trouble finishing against guys half his size.

Honestly, I'm shocked that he's even a consideration. I hope for his sake that I'm wrong, but if he were to sign with MSU tomorrow...I'd be extremely worried about the state of msu basketball (at least as much as one could be with the signing of one recruit...but i'm just sayin')

Yeah. I've seen Nix play. He's definitely a project. He also is an immovable force in the paint. Seriously. No one moves him around.

It did seem like he had fairly soft hands. I'm just enamored with the idea of having a dude down low that you can feed the ball into and won't be afraid of him being pushed away from the basket.

Crow · 04-07-2008, 10:02 PM

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Yeah. I've seen Nix play. He's definitely a project. He also is an immovable force in the paint. Seriously. No one moves him around.

It did seem like he had fairly soft hands. I'm just enamored with the idea of having a dude down low that you can feed the ball into and won't be afraid of him being pushed away from the basket.

i give you that...d. green looked like neitzel trying to guard him inside.

StatsETC · 04-08-2008, 12:12 AM

Wilson
Kirk
Sherman
Riley

NorCal Spartan · 04-08-2008, 02:42 PM

Having never seen any of these kids play, this class would work:

Garrick Sherman - C
Jamil Wilson - SF
Richard Howell - SF
Derrick Nix - PF

There's something that could be fun seeing an immovable center sitting on the block for MSU. What seems probable, from reading Chair at prepspotlight and some other sites, is to drop Wilson. Ideally, trading him for Ari Stewart would be great, but Kirk seems more likely. Don't know if MSU would take both Nix and Kirk based on roster composition. So one of the other and then another SF. A more realistic class would be Sherman, Kirk, Howell, and another SF.

What about James Still is he still on the radar?

TripleGreen · 04-08-2008, 04:58 PM

Garrick Sherman - C
Donnovan Kirk - PF
Jamil Wilson - SF
Ari Stewart - SF

Donnyrotten · 04-08-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleGreen

Garrick Sherman - C
Donnovan Kirk - PF
Jamil Wilson - SF
Ari Stewart - SF

That would be my current list,as one choice has already been made...Sherman

msu_030 · 04-08-2008, 06:08 PM

sherman
kirk
howell
riley- maybe use it on an 2010 guy tho

Ivan Drago · 04-08-2008, 07:29 PM

You guys are predicting 2 classes in a row ('08-'09) with only 1 G in Korie Lucious. We need to balance it out a bit. You need a SG in 09.

Jersey Spartan · 04-08-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan Drago

You guys are predicting 2 classes in a row ('08-'09) with only 1 G in Korie Lucious. We need to balance it out a bit. You need a SG in 09.

Izzo has no guards he is recruiting right now. We don't need one in '09.

Appling in '10 is just fine.

AASpartan · 04-08-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan Drago

You guys are predicting 2 classes in a row ('08-'09) with only 1 G in Korie Lucious. We need to balance it out a bit. You need a SG in 09.

It's not a prediction. Just a wish list.

That being said, a lot of people (recruiting sites) have been saying that we're replacing the bigs with this class and most don't expect us to take a SG until 2010. Probably one of the reasons that Strickland cooled on us was due to the glut of guards we'll have in 2009.

Jersey Spartan · 04-08-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

It's not a prediction. Just a wish list.

That being said, a lot of people (recruiting sites) have been saying that we're replacing the bigs with this class and most don't expect us to take a SG until 2010. Probably one of the reasons that Strickland cooled on us was due to the glut of guards we'll have in 2009.

You have such a better way of putting the things I want to say.

StatsETC · 04-08-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan Drago

You guys are predicting 2 classes in a row ('08-'09) with only 1 G in Korie Lucious. We need to balance it out a bit. You need a SG in 09.

Not when you've got a great shot at Keith Appling in 2010, and possibly Michael Talley Jr. if he grows a bit.

Ivan Drago · 04-08-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AASpartan

It's not a prediction. Just a wish list.

That being said, a lot of people (recruiting sites) have been saying that we're replacing the bigs with this class and most don't expect us to take a SG until 2010. Probably one of the reasons that Strickland cooled on us was due to the glut of guards we'll have in 2009.

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Originally Posted by Jersey Spartan

You have such a better way of putting the things I want to say.

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Originally Posted by StatsETC

Not when you've got a great shot at Keith Appling in 2010, and possibly Michael Talley Jr. if he grows a bit.

My point is that its easier to plan for attrition if the classes are more balanced. For example, what happens if Appling comes in as a Freshman when Lucas/Allen/Summers are Seniors and Lucious is a Junior. If he blows up and is gone, we're light again at guard. Look what happened when Taylor left earlier than expected. It honestly set us back 2 years since we didn't have a true pg, even though our other positions were good.

I know Izzo shouldn't just recruit a position, but also a player. 7 sweet 16's in 11 years or whatever... I know Izzo is awesome and this is probably me just being a pessimist. The unevenness is our classes makes me uneasy a bit though.

AASpartan · 04-08-2008, 10:24 PM

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My point is that its easier to plan for attrition if the classes are more balanced. For example, what happens if Appling comes in as a Freshman when Lucas/Allen/Summers are Seniors and Lucious is a Junior. If he blows up and is gone, we're light again at guard. Look what happened when Taylor left earlier than expected. It honestly set us back 2 years since we didn't have a true pg, even though our other positions were good.

I know Izzo shouldn't just recruit a position, but also a player. 7 sweet 16's in 11 years or whatever... I know Izzo is awesome and this is probably me just being a pessimist. The unevenness is our classes makes me uneasy a bit though.

When/if Appling comes in, Lucas/Summers/Allen are juniors and Lucious is a sophomore. We aren't going to be recruiting another guard past Strickland for 09. Just aren't any targets on the horizon. If you look at the offers and listen to the people talking, we're only looking at 3s, 4s, and 5s.

Ivan Drago · 04-08-2008, 11:11 PM

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04-07-2008, 04:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
twig1318 500+ posts Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Okemos Posts: 916	Dream Class for 09 We still have 4 schollies left so who would you want to accompany Sherman for the 09 class. For me its Jamil Wilson Noel Johnson Deshante Riley Donavon Kirk Realistically I wouldn't mind Howell either, and I know Riley looses focus but if he ever puts it together than we would have that post presence we have lacked since Paul Davis __________________ "It is different for me," said Stanton. "I don't hate those guys and I don't dislike the alumni I meet, but it's obviously a great rivalry. What I have a problem with is the 100,000 or so bandwagon jumpers. Those people who graduated from some community college but jump on the bandwagon and say Michigan is No. 1."

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AASpartan RCMB Donor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 60,553	Garrick Sherman - C Donnovan Kirk - PF Richard Howell - SF Ari Stewart - SF Part of me likes Nix too, but he's probably a stretch. Especially if we're going to run. __________________ F Michigan

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Jersey Spartan 1,000+ posts Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,463	I have done this so many times and it never happens so im gonna wait and see. I would not be surprised if they only take three guys though in '09 so they can take three guys as well in '10. Last edited by Jersey Spartan; 04-07-2008 at 07:59 PM.

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NorCal Spartan 2,500+ posts Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Serbonia Posts: 3,260	Having never seen any of these kids play, this class would work: Garrick Sherman - C Jamil Wilson - SF Richard Howell - SF Derrick Nix - PF There's something that could be fun seeing an immovable center sitting on the block for MSU. What seems probable, from reading Chair at prepspotlight and some other sites, is to drop Wilson. Ideally, trading him for Ari Stewart would be great, but Kirk seems more likely. Don't know if MSU would take both Nix and Kirk based on roster composition. So one of the other and then another SF. A more realistic class would be Sherman, Kirk, Howell, and another SF. What about James Still is he still on the radar? __________________ Kalin Lucas - Big 10 Freshman of the Year TGCICB Last edited by NorCal Spartan; 04-08-2008 at 02:47 PM.

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TripleGreen 5,000+ posts Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the golf course Posts: 9,244	Garrick Sherman - C Donnovan Kirk - PF Jamil Wilson - SF Ari Stewart - SF __________________ MEMBER OF THE TOM IZZO FAN CLUB *"I want utopia. I want my players to want utopia.* *And you can bet we're going to work toward that."*

04-07-2008, 06:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jersey Spartan 1,000+ posts Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,463	Only 4 for '09 at the most. If they take 4 in '09 that only leaves 2 for '10.

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Jersey Spartan 1,000+ posts Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,463	Noel Johnson is a pipe dream. I would put his chances of coming to MSUs below Ari Stewerts.

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msu_030 25+ posts Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 27	sherman kirk howell riley- maybe use it on an 2010 guy tho

04-08-2008, 07:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ivan Drago RCMB Donor 5,000+ posts Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Home of the Deep Dish Posts: 5,549	You guys are predicting 2 classes in a row ('08-'09) with only 1 G in Korie Lucious. We need to balance it out a bit. You need a SG in 09.