'10 MI SF Trey Zeigler (MSU Offer)

GreenT · 09-03-2008, 04:33 AM

Latest from Sam Webb indicates Trey is leaning towards UCLA. U of M looking good w/Lubick and he is on Trey hard to get to M. Also Appling in Trey's ear to get to East lansing, but story on GBW indicates that Zeigler really like UCLA.

tlpet88 · 09-03-2008, 12:24 PM

Sam never said Ziegler was leaning anywhere, although michigan does to be getting confident for some reason.

burnsmi4 · 09-03-2008, 02:35 PM

i think most of us kind of know UCLA is going to be tough to beat out for him. I find it funny that michigan fans are getting all worked up about Zeigler getting recruited by a kid who hasnt even commited to michigan

Old Hort · 09-03-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by burnsmi4

i think most of us kind of know UCLA is going to be tough to beat out for him. I find it funny that michigan fans are getting all worked up about Zeigler getting recruited by a kid who hasnt even commited to michigan

Yeah, it is kind of wierd....If Lubick wants him at scUM, then why doesn't Lubick commit?

mdm2005 · 09-03-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Hort

Yeah, it is kind of wierd....If Lubick wants him at scUM, then why doesn't Lubick commit?

...because he fears being left alone to play for scUM in that dark, empty, basketball arena. Not to mention the diminished NBA prospects for players who play in a system that doesn't value the crtical skill of rebounding for one thing.

burnsmi4 · 09-04-2008, 03:38 PM

IMO of Zeigler going to UCLA i forgot to say that Ernie Zeigler spent 5 years as an assistant to Ben Howland both at Pitt and UCLA. It is also said that Howland helped Zeigler get the CMU job.

burnsmi4 · 09-18-2008, 02:47 AM

UCLA just got a 6-8 SF verbal for 2009. They already have 2 SG commits for 2010 and according to scout already have a scholarship out to the SF from Iowa in 2010. If the kid from Iowa commits to UCLA or any other SG/SF than i think ill change my opinion on Zeigler going to UCLA.

st8fan19 · 09-18-2008, 01:09 PM

i went to HS with this kid. even as a freshman he was a stud.... great player and good guy

DrTre11 · 09-18-2008, 11:28 PM

Our chances are improving with Zeigler and I predict they'll skyrocket after this weekend.

Stats · 09-18-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by st8fan19

i went to HS with this kid. even as a freshman he was a stud.... great player and good guy

So we can hold you personally responsible if he doens't come here?

bpmcgant · 09-23-2008, 12:32 AM

Rivals doesn't list us as a school of interest anymore.

gw73 · 09-23-2008, 06:31 AM

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Rivals doesn't list us as a school of interest anymore.

The recruiting services are wrong all the time.

Stats · 09-23-2008, 05:47 PM

Per St8izgr8, Trey will be in a certain basketball facility near you for a certain event celebrating the first day that the NCAA allows practices.

The Dancing Bear · 09-23-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Spartan

I take it March Madness. I will seriously love it if they go hard after Zeigler as well as Byrd to go along with Appling.

I love the big MSU took for '09 in Sherman and Nix that I feel MSU could go without a big '10. I don't believe MSU has a great shot at Payne. Alex Guana and Jon Horford are really intriguing prospects who are both Top 150 players who are big men but with bigs as you know they are tough to project. If Alex Guana and Jon Horford improve and MSU lands just one of Byrd or Zeigler then you can take Guana or Horford.

I think you mean Midnight Madness.

dimambr3 · 10-26-2008, 06:18 PM

Saw Zeigler at my friend's party in AA last night. He was goin around with Kelvin Grady and had a UM hat on. Said he liked the visit, was a nice guy but from what i could pick up, really is just wide open at this point

AlexKoepsell\ · 10-27-2008, 01:19 PM

It would be terrible for him to follow his dad to CMU. Best fits with MSU or UCLA based on his skill level. NIce back court - Appling and Zeigler with Byrd on the wing and WIlson or Martin at the 4.

Can you say run and gun!

burnsmi4 · 10-27-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexKoepsell\

It would be terrible for him to follow his dad to CMU. Best fits with MSU or UCLA based on his skill level. NIce back court - Appling and Zeigler with Byrd on the wing and WIlson or Martin at the 4.

Can you say run and gun!

Why would it be terrible for him to go there. Kaman went there and did fine. You see Stephen Curry at Davidson do well at a small school. If he is good than it really wont matter where he goes unless its a school that runs a system that doesnt use his strengths

AlexKoepsell\ · 10-27-2008, 07:00 PM

To explain my comment: If he goes to a small school he might be the man but he will miss out on the TV Exposure, NCAA Championship Hopes and big time audiences. Stephon Curry is an exception and he was looked over by most of the big time programs.

I agree that Big Men at small programs can turn out alright but I dont see a lot of mid-majors producing top quality NBA guards. This might be just my opinion but playing at CMU will provide lesser competition than his AAU team.

Playing for a big time program vs. other top players will help him prepare for the next level while getting a good education.

NCAASpartans · 10-27-2008, 11:27 PM

signed,

Rodney Stuckey.

They might not get the exposure in college, but if their dream is the NBA, it won't matter. Scouts will find the talent.

Tag · 10-27-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexKoepsell\

To explain my comment: If he goes to a small school he might be the man but he will miss out on the TV Exposure, NCAA Championship Hopes and big time audiences. Stephon Curry is an exception and he was looked over by most of the big time programs.

I agree that Big Men at small programs can turn out alright but I dont see a lot of mid-majors producing top quality NBA guards. This might be just my opinion but playing at CMU will provide lesser competition than his AAU team.

Playing for a big time program vs. other top players will help him prepare for the next level while getting a good education.

Dan Majerle had a pretty decent NBA career as a shooting guard out of CMU.

Dutch_Pablo · 10-28-2008, 10:13 AM

I think a few people are missing the point here. No one is saying that players going to small schools can not make it to the NBA. Yes, there are many examples like Stuckey, Majerle, Kaman, Dumars, etc. The point is that to improve and develop your skills it is generally considered better to go somewhere were you get elite coaching and play elite competition not only in games but in practice.

If this guy wants to go to CMU then good for him, but he will get better coaching at MSU or UCLA. He will face tougher competition in the Big Ten or Pac Ten. He will face bigger challenges in day to day practice going up against the other MSU or UCLA players than he would at CMU.

AlexKoepsell\ · 10-28-2008, 12:25 PM

Thanks for Clarifying my point -- The level of Competition at CMU will be equal to what he gets in the summer.

Michigan State and UCLA play top compeititon year in and year out -- Nothing compares to playing against NBA level talent.

TripleGreen · 10-28-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Spartan

Whats wrong with playing for ya dad?

Nothing is inherently wrong with playing fer ya dad. I'm sure it would be a lot of fun and real bonding experience. People are just saying that playing in an inferior league WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO is questionable decision making for someone who likely has pro aspirations. The point here is...do you think Rodney Stuckey or Joe Dumars would have played in insignificant conferences at little known schools if they had standing offers from Kentucky and Kansas?

No way.

Trey Ziegler is going to have those kind of offers and if he turns them down to be in a much lesser conference and play and practice against much lesser talent, just to play with dad...to each his own, but I think that's an iffy decision. TIA.

gw73 · 10-29-2008, 12:05 AM

Played for his dad, got a shot at the pro's.

Lots of pro's from CMU over the years.

Dutch_Pablo · 10-29-2008, 12:23 PM

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Played for his dad, got a shot at the pro's.

Lots of pro's from CMU over the years.

Thank you for that example. As stated earlier, no one is saying a kid going to a small school can't make it to the NBA. However, I think any rational person would agree that better coaching (not only head coach, but also assistants), better competition, greater exposure, and all the other intangibles that go along with playing for a big time program better prepare and develop a player for the NBA. For everyone one off example you can name there are tons of players that from big time programs making it to the NBA.

Do you honestly think that Charlie Bell, Mo Pete, Ager or some of those guys would have made it to the NBA if they went to CMU, WMU, EMU, or some other MAC school?

Again, everyone makes their college decision based on criteria that is set by them. If this kid's dream is to play for his dad then good for him for having that chance. If he is a one and done type of player than it may not matter as he's good enough for the NBA anyways. However, if the kid needs to develop he will have a better opportunity to do that at a big time school.