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Old 03-16-2009, 11:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Are We Done?

Is there anyone else we are actively recruiting for the 2010 class or are we likely going to wait until 2011? Not sure if someone like Gauna, Horford, Sykes are under serious consideration. I realize they are still keeping an eye on them, but what are the odds we bring someone else in for 2010? Seems like a pretty good 2 man class as of now. There seems to be some good players in Michigan for 2011 so maybe we are going to try and bring in these guys.

Someone I haven't heard of that mentions us a school of interest is # 86 on the rivals top 150 for 2010, Flavien Davis, but I don't know if we are actively pursuing him.

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Old 03-17-2009, 12:08 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Is there anyone else we are actively recruiting for the 2010 class or are we likely going to wait until 2011? Not sure if someone like Gauna, Horford, Sykes are under serious consideration. I realize they are still keeping an eye on them, but what are the odds we bring someone else in for 2010? Seems like a pretty good 2 man class as of now. There seems to be some good players in Michigan for 2011 so maybe we are going to try and bring in these guys.

Someone I haven't heard of that mentions us a school of interest is # 86 on the rivals top 150 for 2010, Flavien Davis, but I don't know if we are actively pursuing him.

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That basically turns Thornton into our 12th scholarship player in 2009 and 2010, with one going unused each year, right? That's a pretty drastic 180 from all the "don't worry about 2009; Izzo is saving scholarships for the loaded 2010 class" talk I remember hearing around here.

People can jump on me if you want, but I really believe MSU is setting up for a significant struggle year ala 2006-2007 soon. Not the end of the world but we're going to have to make it through at least one year with a lot more heart than firepower.
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Old 03-17-2009, 12:37 AM   #28 (permalink)
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That basically turns Thornton into our 12th scholarship player in 2009 and 2010, with one going unused each year, right? That's a pretty drastic 180 from all the "don't worry about 2009; Izzo is saving scholarships for the loaded 2010 class" talk I remember hearing around here.

People can jump on me if you want, but I really believe MSU is setting up for a significant struggle year ala 2006-2007 soon. Not the end of the world but we're going to have to make it through at least one year with a lot more heart than firepower.
I am going to jump on you for all of sudden taking SAR's word as gospel (no offense SAR, but you were asking a question correct? Not stating facts.)

And, we are going for AT LEAST one more in 2010. We probably are going after two more (per Izzo's comments after the loss of Wilson.) Who that will be, we don't know yet. The staff will probably look at the summer AAU circuit, and decide who to pursue in the Wing position.

THe the PF position for 2010, my money would be on Horford. He seems to have quite a bit of upside, and brings something different to the table than Nix and Sherman. His last video from a month ago showed some pretty interesting tools that he has, and Steve Bell has been singing his praises as a kid ready to blow up this summer (plus, Izzo stated that you can tell what kids he is recruiting by if he shows up to their games; he came to Horford's game with his daughter a couple weeks ago).
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Old 03-17-2009, 12:44 AM   #29 (permalink)
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People can jump on me if you want, but I really believe MSU is setting up for a significant struggle year ala 2006-2007 soon. Not the end of the world but we're going to have to make it through at least one year with a lot more heart than firepower.[/QUOTE]

Not gonna jump on you for this, but I have no idea why you believe this. Assuming all stay, you are going to have some pretty explosive line ups at MSU for the next couple years. Of course, it depends upon how these young guys develop, but you could say that about any team.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:18 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I am going to jump on you for all of sudden taking SAR's word as gospel (no offense SAR, but you were asking a question correct? Not stating facts.)
No, I didn't take his word as gospel but I've been asking the same question. And as you can tell, the idea of being done for 2010 puts me ill at ease. I hadn't seen or read Izzo's comments on the matter (anywhere free?). Basically, I want insurance in case some of the unproven and/or incoming players disappoint. I'm hoping for a late developing lead ala Roger Franklin.

Seriously, how many players in the next two years are you deeply confident in? Lucas, Roe, Green, Lucious, maybe Sherman and Appling. After that, I see a lot of ???????
That's why I'm nervous about the next two years.

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Old 03-17-2009, 01:33 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I was asking a question. I have not heard a lot of talk about other 2010 prospects and was wondering if there was someone I was missing. Have heard Gauna, Horford, but they don't seem to be getting any big offers. Doesn't mean they can't be good, but it doesn't seem like we are in on too many more, if any top 100 types. Maybe we are and are just not aware of it, but not many guys list MSU as a school of interest. A lot of the top 2011 Michigan guys seem to be interested, but it is very early for 2011, but recruiting does seem to get done early as a lot of 2010 guys have been committed for awhile. Just looking for thoughts. Thanks
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No, I didn't take his word as gospel but I've been asking the same question. And as you can tell, the idea of being done for 2010 puts me ill at ease. I hadn't seen or read Izzo's comments on the matter (anywhere free?). Basically, I want insurance in case some of the unproven and/or incoming players disappoint. I'm hoping for a late developing lead ala Roger Franklin.

Seriously, how many players in the next two years are you deeply confident in? Lucas, Roe, Green, Lucious, maybe Sherman and Appling. After that, I see a lot of ???????
That's why I'm nervous about the next two years.
First of all, every player you recruit is a question mark. There are very few can't miss prospects out there, and if they are can't miss, they are probably one and dones, and you just need to find another solid player to take their place.

Also, I am not sure you remember 2006 if you are comparing the future of this team with it. Honestly, that team had Neitzel to score, and Raymar to score occasionally. The other players were Walton (who had a hard time ever hitting double figures), Naymick (a defensive specialist with little offensive ability until his Senior year in which he avg. maybe 6pts/game!), Gray (honestly the same player we see today), Suton (a very inconsistent Soph), Dahlman (A Frosh who was forced to play, and has not seen the floor since), and Joseph (a guy who struggles to average 10pts a game at Vermont). We were forced to play Walk-ons such as DeMarcus Ducre that year.

Honestly, there are no years in the immediate future that look anything remotely like 2006.

Lucas is the reigning BTPOY as a soph. Luscious is a true Frosh who can really fill it up. Roe looks like a beast. Green is a smart fundamentally sound PF with great intangibles and ball skills, Summers has shown flashes, Allen has shown flashes, Sherman and Nix are much more highly regarded than Suton when he came in; Byrd is probably going to be asked to do what Neitzel did, which is come off screens in the half court and drain threes (expect he is 6'7 and not 6'0). Appling looks like a flat out stud.

Dude, we are coming off a 26-6 campaign, with the BTPOY, two top 100 centers coming in, and the main rotation this year was mostly Frosh and Sophomores. I would say it is not the time to worry about the future.
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:14 AM   #33 (permalink)


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I was asking a question. I have not heard a lot of talk about other 2010 prospects and was wondering if there was someone I was missing. Have heard Gauna, Horford, but they don't seem to be getting any big offers. Doesn't mean they can't be good, but it doesn't seem like we are in on too many more, if any top 100 types. Maybe we are and are just not aware of it, but not many guys list MSU as a school of interest. A lot of the top 2011 Michigan guys seem to be interested, but it is very early for 2011, but recruiting does seem to get done early as a lot of 2010 guys have been committed for awhile. Just looking for thoughts. Thanks
I expect horford to become a Plan A soon, he just keeps getting better and better. MSU will turn it up with Zeigler and I like our chances better than most.

msu recruiting will be just fine.
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Old 03-19-2009, 01:29 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I expect horford to become a Plan A soon, he just keeps getting better and better. MSU will turn it up with Zeigler and I like our chances better than most.

msu recruiting will be just fine.
If Jon Horford continues to develop like people are saying, I think a Appling, Byrd, Zeigler, and Horford 2010 class would shut me up nicely.
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If Jon Horford continues to develop like people are saying, I think a Appling, Byrd, Zeigler, and Horford 2010 class would shut me up nicely.
If we couldn't recruit his brother why would we have success recruiting the younger Horford? Especially considering how well things worked out for Al.
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First of all, every player you recruit is a question mark. There are very few can't miss prospects out there, and if they are can't miss, they are probably one and dones, and you just need to find another solid player to take their place.

Also, I am not sure you remember 2006 if you are comparing the future of this team with it. Honestly, that team had Neitzel to score, and Raymar to score occasionally. The other players were Walton (who had a hard time ever hitting double figures), Naymick (a defensive specialist with little offensive ability until his Senior year in which he avg. maybe 6pts/game!), Gray (honestly the same player we see today), Suton (a very inconsistent Soph), Dahlman (A Frosh who was forced to play, and has not seen the floor since), and Joseph (a guy who struggles to average 10pts a game at Vermont). We were forced to play Walk-ons such as DeMarcus Ducre that year.

Honestly, there are no years in the immediate future that look anything remotely like 2006.

Lucas is the reigning BTPOY as a soph. Luscious is a true Frosh who can really fill it up. Roe looks like a beast. Green is a smart fundamentally sound PF with great intangibles and ball skills, Summers has shown flashes, Allen has shown flashes, Sherman and Nix are much more highly regarded than Suton when he came in; Byrd is probably going to be asked to do what Neitzel did, which is come off screens in the half court and drain threes (expect he is 6'7 and not 6'0). Appling looks like a flat out stud.

Dude, we are coming off a 26-6 campaign, with the BTPOY, two top 100 centers coming in, and the main rotation this year was mostly Frosh and Sophomores. I would say it is not the time to worry about the future.
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Maybe we should look at Dominique Ferguson from Indiana...5-star on scout who just decommited from Kentucky
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well Izzo is familiar with that school. lets just hope Matta doesnt come calling if we get involved
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Hell yes we should. He's a Lawrence North kid, so no issues there. We absolutely need to take a big guy in that class and with neither Horford nor Gauna standing out as of yet, Ferguson is very enticing from a need perspective. Damn....if we could fill out 2010 with Zeigler & Ferguson, then add Brundidge, Williams, and Price for 2011....
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well Izzo is familiar with that school. lets just hope Matta doesnt come calling if we get involved
didn't pursue him before, I don't see it happening.
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I got Ferguson confused with Justin Martin, the SF from Lawrence North, I know we were in on him
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I got Ferguson confused with Justin Martin, the SF from Lawrence North, I know we were in on him
Who chose Louisville, right? Funny twist of fate.

In other news, surely this Final Four helps us close the 2010 class, no?
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This might be a dumb question, but during the off season what recruiting goes on at this point? Does it pick up? Do they not recruit over the summer?
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Coach will have his basketball camps which provides opportunities to see potential prospects in action and give coaching tips. Watching prospects at AAU events I think is allowed also. Lots of recruiting and scouting during the next few weeks.
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nice...and did the 2010 one actually get updated last week? i dint remember seeing it, but how did Appling not move up at all...hes still 81 not that it matters at all, kid that can drop 49 in the state title game is fine by me
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Does the young man have to give the money back to Matta now?

But seriously, this is why guys like Matta and DicRod are not only bad for college athletics but for the human race in general. Class, character, respect, honesty and commitment mean absolutely nothing to them.

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You would think this type of thing would start to bite OSU in the butt. Accept verbals from ninth graders and then cut the cord when they don't pan out? It has happened with Trae Golden, Wright, and also Crater. Crater made it to campus and played some early but the rumor was the coaches were not in love with him and made it clear. He transferred out as a result.
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The 6'4" 2010 SG recruit has "allegedly" backed away from his Badger pledge and announced that he was re-opening up his recruitment. I guess he grew increasingly unsure of his role in the Badger basketball machine and so he chose to explore the recruiting process a little more.

Some also say that he was turned off by the fact that Bo Ryan didn't do much in the way of recruiting his fellow Badger-state blue chips; Jeronne Maymon, Jamil Wilson and our own Korie Lucious.

The 4 star #39 ranked wing would certainly fill a hole in the 2010 class and the kid is obviously extremely talented. Any chance that Izzo gives him a call just to see if there's any interest in the G&W?
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