tOfficial iPhone news and discussion thread

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by TurboSpartan

Because Applecare isn't free either. It'll be $60 or $80.

Also I've seen iPods taken apart and i'll wager it's a heck of a lot easier than soldering a battery in an iPhone.

Like I said, given the millions of iPhones that will be on the market by the time you'd need a new battery anyway, you'll either be able to get a low cost replacement from a 3rd party company or it'll be time for a new iPhone model. Not a concern whatsoever.

[TurboSpartan]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

Like I said, given the millions of iPhones that will be on the market by the time you'd need a new battery anyway, you'll either be able to get a low cost replacement from a 3rd party company or it'll be time for a new iPhone model. Not a concern whatsoever.

We're talking about Li-ion batteries here. They go bad often. And the low-cost deal is total conjecture on your part. I'd argue this further, but I see you clearly drank the kool-aid.

[#5]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

If you have Applecare, they will replace batteries within 2 years for free.

By the time that iPhones need batteries replaced though, there will be plenty of companies that will offer battery replacement services for them. You can get an iPod battery replaced for around $25 these days and it also supposedly has a "nonremovable" battery. The battery would be the least of my concerns. I'd imagine there will be dozens of 3rd party companies offering iPhone battery replacements, probably the same companies that do iPod battery replacements already.

the problem won't be the replacement of batteries...that will be fine. I have no problem with my ipod. I use it sparingly and it charges up easily.

With the iphone it is different. that will always be on and it will always be in use because people are using this as their primary cell phone right now.

The phone doesn't offer the opportunity to change batteries and people who don't have the opportunity to keep their phone charged all of the time will suffer. However, this won't affect too many people. It seems most people have access to recharging when they need it (driving; home charger; office charger).

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by TurboSpartan

We're talking about Li-ion batteries here. They go bad often. And the low-cost deal is total conjecture on your part. I'd argue this further, but I see you clearly drank the kool-aid.

I'd argue this further but you don't seem to be paying attention to the market. This thing is already a hit. They'll sell millions. Battery replacement services will pop up and be much cheaper than what Apple offers.

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by #5

The phone doesn't offer the opportunity to change batteries and people who don't have the opportunity to keep their phone charged all of the time will suffer. However, this won't affect too many people. It seems most people have access to recharging when they need it (driving; home charger; office charger).

That's a fair point. There are tons of 3rd party iPod recharging options that will recharge iPods with AA batteries for instance. Those would currently work on the iPhone as well right out of the box. Same interface.

[TurboSpartan]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

I'd argue this further but you don't seem to be paying attention to the market. This thing is already a hit. They'll sell millions. Battery replacement services will pop up and be much cheaper than what Apple offers.

Of course it will sell millions. There are millions of people who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it, they're called Apple fanatics. That doesn't make it a good phone.

[TurboSpartan]

Originally Posted by #5

the problem won't be the replacement of batteries...that will be fine. I have no problem with my ipod. I use it sparingly and it charges up easily.

With the iphone it is different. that will always be on and it will always be in use because people are using this as their primary cell phone right now.

The phone doesn't offer the opportunity to change batteries and people who don't have the opportunity to keep their phone charged all of the time will suffer. However, this won't affect too many people. It seems most people have access to recharging when they need it (driving; home charger; office charger).

Actuallly, bizarrely, with Li-Ion batteries, keeping them charged at 100% all the time will make them wear out slightly faster. Staying between 10-90% is best for them, but I still keep mine 100% charged up all the time.

[TurboSpartan]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

Yeah, that was pretty much a worthless post.

And it appears to me that neither Apple nor AT&T need any of my help selling the iPhone. It's exceeded their expectations already.

Every time you argue with an apple fanatic it always ends up neandering away from the subject matter with something like "that was a worthless post!" Jeez, take your Pamprin already.

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by TurboSpartan

Of course it will sell millions. There are millions of people who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it, they're called Apple fanatics. That doesn't make it a good phone.

That all depends on what you're looking for in a phone. I know people that prefer their iPhones to their old Treos and people who prefer it to their old Windows Mobile phones. The browsing experience, battery, and multimedia experience are much better on their iphones for instance. It all depends on what you want in a phone.

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by TurboSpartan

Every time you argue with an apple fanatic it always ends up neandering away from the subject matter with something like "that was a worthless post!" Jeez, take your Pamprin already.

Heh, that's rich coming from the guy talking about selling crap sandwiches.

I'd also not exactly call myself an Apple fanatic. My main computer is a Dell.

[mydogsparty]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

Heh, that's rich coming from the guy talking about selling crap sandwiches.

I'd also not exactly call myself an Apple fanatic. My main computer is a Dell.

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by mydogsparty

[rob]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

The browsing experience, battery, and multimedia experience are much better on their iphones for instance. It all depends on what you want in a phone.

It's beyond me why anyone would want a cellphone to browse the internet??? Maybe it's why I don't understand the whole "text" thing??? You'd rather type a message on an inacessible ****ty keyboard than speak to someone? I don't get it????

[ninowesco]

Originally Posted by rob

I don't get it????

no kidding

[rob]

Originally Posted by ninowesco

no kidding

What didn't you understand? i

[LA_Spartan]

Originally Posted by rob

It's beyond me why anyone would want a cellphone to browse the internet??? Maybe it's why I don't understand the whole "text" thing??? You'd rather type a message on an inacessible ****ty keyboard than speak to someone? I don't get it????

Aren't you an attorney? My secretary texts me quick questions when I'm in court, and I can respond right away. She texts me my messages so I can just click on someone's number instead of having to call her for messages and then write down the numbers while driving. And checking and responding to emails from anywhere, on my schedule, not just when I'm in the office. Its called saving time and being more efficient.

[Fighting With A Vim]

Originally Posted by rob

It's beyond me why anyone would want a cellphone to browse the internet??? Maybe it's why I don't understand the whole "text" thing??? You'd rather type a message on an inacessible ****ty keyboard than speak to someone? I don't get it????

Yeah, you're right, mobile devices should exclusively be for phone calls, since there's no convenience in being able to check your email and browse Web sites from anywhere.

[rob]

Originally Posted by LA_Spartan

Aren't you an attorney? My secretary texts me quick questions when I'm in court, and I can respond right away. She texts me my messages so I can just click on someone's number instead of having to call her for messages and then write down the numbers while driving. And checking and responding to emails from anywhere, on my schedule, not just when I'm in the office. Its called saving time and being more efficient.

I'm not talking about email.....the cell phone to cell phone txt messaging is what I don't get??..

[TurboSpartan]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

I'd also not exactly call myself an Apple fanatic.

First step is admitting you have a problem.

[Mel]

Originally Posted by AASpartan

Well...most of them are Trevor's. I'm worried for Mel. He might leave her for an iPhone.

[Mel]

Originally Posted by Trevor Barnes

Heh, that's rich coming from the guy talking about selling crap sandwiches.

I'd also not exactly call myself an Apple fanatic. My main computer is a Dell.

that Dell basically holds our music. you DO use the macbook as your main computer.

[TurboSpartan]

Originally Posted by Mel

that Dell basically holds our music. you DO use the macbook as your main computer.

No surprise. From Trevor's posts today you can he's in the first stages of addiction: Denial and Anger.

Soon will come Bargaining, then depression and finally acceptance.

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by rob

It's beyond me why anyone would want a cellphone to browse the internet??? Maybe it's why I don't understand the whole "text" thing??? You'd rather type a message on an inacessible ****ty keyboard than speak to someone? I don't get it????

On a typical cell phone, I agree. If you don't get the whole texting thing though, you don't get the target market. The iphone's keyboard actually works quite well after you get used to it based on what reviewers are saying. There are just some times when jumping on the web or email on a cell can be very handy.

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by TurboSpartan

First step is admitting you have a problem.

I'm a pretty lame Apple fanatic then considering that I've never actually bought an Apple computer. I guess anyone who owns an iPod should be considered an Apple fanatic.

[Trevor Barnes]

Originally Posted by Mel

that Dell basically holds our music. you DO use the macbook as your main computer.

Hey, it's not my fault that work stuck me with a Macbook.