tOfficial iPhone news and discussion thread

bulldogg · 07-15-2008, 02:33 PM

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On FedEx vehicle for delivery

Got mine from FedEx about 2 hours ago. Charging now.

bulldogg · 07-15-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WCS

Pales?

GPS turn by turn either gets to where you want to go or it doesn't.

It's like trying to convince someone that their fly swatter is better because its handle has finger grooves.

And a phone either makes calls or not, right? A car either drives on the road or not, right?

I admit that I have only barely seen a buddy's VZW Navigator, but I'll take Gizmodo's word for it: "TeleNav already makes decent GPS nav software for Sprint and AT&T phones, way better than Verizon's VZ Navigator."

bulldogg · 07-15-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PortlandSpartan

PC World - 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals

Summary: iPhone 3G battery life sucks, but others are suckier.

They should use that in a commerical.

tuff bob · 07-15-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldogg

Got mine from FedEx about 2 hours ago. Charging now.

mine is still on that darn truck.

worm · 07-15-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PortlandSpartan

Already have it, great stuff.

worm you're a developer....how in the eff does a program like shazam work? it hears 8 seconds of a song and in my experience so far figures out the name, artist, album, etc like 95% if the time

i've never done work like this, but from what i gather all songs have a unique audio fingerprint. shazam takes in the song you're playing, builds a fingerprint using some proprietary algorithm and compares that fingerprint to some database. after digging around a bit it looks like this place owns the fingerprinting technology that shazam uses.

Landmark Digital

tuff bob · 07-15-2008, 04:23 PM

FEDEX!!!!

bulldogg · 07-15-2008, 08:53 PM

So I got mine today ...

Early (very early) impressions:

Activation was nothing short of a struggle. AT&T doesn't even know how to properly activate a corporate iPhone. And the process that was needed is not conducive at all to a corporate environment.
I don't like the fact that your USB cable is also your power cord.
My home key doesn't seem to work all the time. Not sure if I'm just not doing it right - seems straight forward. Ummm ... click the button. It doesn't always work though.
Doesn't seem like the snappiest of things. Blackberry Curve was much more responsive.
I can't believe it doesn't have a turn-by-turn app (like Telenav - comparable to a Garmin). Google Maps is decent for the "where the hell am i?", but I'd rather have the "how do I get to XXXX from here?"
Relatively easy to connect to Exchange Server (just like Windows Mobile) but - Can't seem to find it ... after reading an email, how do I then mark it Unread?
And how does anyone type an email on these things?

I'm sure there is more to come ...

bulldogg · 07-15-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldogg

So I got mine today ...

Early (very early) impressions:

Activation was nothing short of a struggle. AT&T doesn't even know how to properly activate a corporate iPhone. And the process that was needed is not conducive at all to a corporate environment.
I don't like the fact that your USB cable is also your power cord.
My home key doesn't seem to work all the time. Not sure if I'm just not doing it right - seems straight forward. Ummm ... click the button. It doesn't always work though.
Doesn't seem like the snappiest of things. Blackberry Curve was much more responsive.
I can't believe it doesn't have a turn-by-turn app (like Telenav - comparable to a Garmin). Google Maps is decent for the "where the hell am i?", but I'd rather have the "how do I get to XXXX from here?"
Relatively easy to connect to Exchange Server (just like Windows Mobile) but - Can't seem to find it ... after reading an email, how do I then mark it Unread?
And how does anyone type an email on these things?

I'm sure there is more to come ...

I found the Mark as Unread. Figured I just missed it.

WCS · 07-15-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldogg

So I got mine today ...

Early (very early) impressions:

Activation was nothing short of a struggle. AT&T doesn't even know how to properly activate a corporate iPhone. And the process that was needed is not conducive at all to a corporate environment.
I don't like the fact that your USB cable is also your power cord.
My home key doesn't seem to work all the time. Not sure if I'm just not doing it right - seems straight forward. Ummm ... click the button. It doesn't always work though.
Doesn't seem like the snappiest of things. Blackberry Curve was much more responsive.
I can't believe it doesn't have a turn-by-turn app (like Telenav - comparable to a Garmin). Google Maps is decent for the "where the hell am i?", but I'd rather have the "how do I get to XXXX from here?"
Relatively easy to connect to Exchange Server (just like Windows Mobile) but - Can't seem to find it ... after reading an email, how do I then mark it Unread?
And how does anyone type an email on these things?

I'm sure there is more to come ...

Turn by turn is cool...i kept mine on when I was on the plane and the detail of it was incredible...I knew exactly where on the tarmac and on the runway I was at all times...the detail was outstanding.

As the plane was taking off I could see my icon racing down the runway and when I took off the icon was going over the city...really cool!

Jim in Atl · 07-15-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldogg

I found the Mark as Unread. Figured I just missed it.

Where is it ?

tuff bob · 07-15-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldogg

Activation was nothing short of a struggle. AT&T doesn't even know how to properly activate a corporate iPhone. And the process that was needed is not conducive at all to a corporate environment.

I had exactly the same problem, then we asked to port our Sprint numbers over and the CSR said we'd need to send our phones back and get new ones. Which is a little different from what the sales guy said. We'll probably hit the corporate AT&T store tomorrow to get to the bottom of the port issue.

bulldogg · 07-15-2008, 10:01 PM

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Where is it ?

Open an email ... hit details ... then there is a Mark as Unread.

My Home button is driving me nuts. I might have to call tomorrow - maybe my device is defective. Seriously, I have to hit the button 6-7 times to get it to work.

tuff bob · 07-15-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldogg

Open an email ... hit details ... then there is a Mark as Unread.

My Home button is driving me nuts. I might have to call tomorrow - maybe my device is defective. Seriously, I have to hit the button 6-7 times to get it to work.

mine has a serious deep travel, which really doesnt fit with the rest of the iphone interface - i wasn't pushing it hard enough at first since i thought it would be "touchscreen" and not a button.

bulldogg · 07-15-2008, 10:05 PM

and my battery is about done (full charged at about 2p)

bulldogg · 07-15-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tuff bob

mine has a serious deep travel, which really doesnt fit with the rest of the iphone interface - i wasn't pushing it hard enough at first since i thought it would be "touchscreen" and not a button.

I don't think it is that ... co-worker has an ipod touch and he said that it should be easier to hit.

BrodieMSU · 07-16-2008, 02:16 AM

so now that I have this thing, how can I stream staudts radio show? I dont think it will play real audio

bulldogg · 07-16-2008, 11:45 AM

So, this is fun.

Even without activating the iPhone it replaces your current data plan if you are upgrading. When this happens, it renders your current data plan useless. Kinda pissed off some users that were carrying a Blackberry with the intent of upgrading tomorrow.
After using the three others that we got at work, I'm convinced that it is a hardware error with my Home button. So, I call our AT&T premier support to get another (like any other phone). Well, this isn't every other phone. I have to go to an AT&T/Apple store. (Usually they just send out a replacement phone next day shipping with a prepaid sticker to send the broken one back). So I call the AT&T store near my house. Of course, no iPhones in stock -- it'll be at least 7-10 days. I'm on hold with the Apple store now.

The thing would be alright if my home button would work when I push it. It's different (some good, some not so good), but it would work. It sucks being on my email screen with the only way to make a phone call is to reboot the phone.

OdomPond · 07-16-2008, 12:02 PM

Enterprise Data plan question....

I need to sync with Exchange via direct push. Am I required to get the enterprise data plan or can I just fake it and get the regular plan and still sync w/Exchange?

If they do in fact require an enterprise plan for direct push, are they requiring it for their Mobile Me service? Cause that seems like an effing double standard.

TheBobcat · 07-16-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OdomPond

Enterprise Data plan question....

I need to sync with Exchange via direct push. Am I required to get the enterprise data plan or can I just fake it and get the regular plan and still sync w/Exchange?

If they do in fact require an enterprise plan for direct push, are they requiring it for their Mobile Me service? Cause that seems like an effing double standard.

I think the enterprise plan is only if you are a company (as an entity) buying it. Exchange support is in the iPhone software, I don't think it matters if your cell phone account is personal or not. The phone plans are AT&T, not Apple, and AT&T has nothing to do with Mobile Me.

bulldogg · 07-16-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OdomPond

Enterprise Data plan question....

I need to sync with Exchange via direct push. Am I required to get the enterprise data plan or can I just fake it and get the regular plan and still sync w/Exchange?

If they do in fact require an enterprise plan for direct push, are they requiring it for their Mobile Me service? Cause that seems like an effing double standard.

Good question. I have he Enterprise Data plan so I can't tell you whether or not it would work with the standard one. According to AT&T, full Exchange with Push support and VPN access is provided by the Enterprise Data plan.

My guess is that Exchange would work with the standard one, but they may be able to block VPN.

bulldogg · 07-16-2008, 12:45 PM

... and an update on my iPhone hardware issue. I now have an appointment at an Apple store tomorrow to look at my device.

While the technology may be there to lure the business sector, obviously the processes in place to activate and repair phones is not. This will turn many businesses away.

PortlandSpartan · 07-16-2008, 01:23 PM

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... and an update on my iPhone hardware issue. I now have an appointment at an Apple store tomorrow to look at my device.

While the technology may be there to lure the business sector, obviously the processes in place to activate and repair phones is not. This will turn many businesses away.

no offense but should apple give you preferential treatment because 3 people in your company have iPhones?

There are a lot of people having issues due to demand right now

Floyd Robertson · 07-16-2008, 01:31 PM

Got this in an e-mail from Tech Republic and thought you might find this interesting. No, I didn't search to see if it was already posted.

Cracking Open the Apple iPhone 3G

by Bill Detwiler | 07-11-08

iPhone 3G disassembled

Next Image »

Apple's iPhone 3G arrived on Friday with a bevy of new enterprise-ready features, including Exchange support, business-grade security, and third-party applications powered by an SDK. As with the first iPhone, we waited in line, bought our phone, signed an AT&T contract, and promptly began to crack open the case. Come along as we disassemble the Apple iPhone 3G.

Also, we always disassembled our gadgets with the intent to reassemble them. The iPhone 3G was no exception. It worked when we put it back together.

OdomPond · 07-16-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBobcat

I think the enterprise plan is only if you are a company (as an entity) buying it. Exchange support is in the iPhone software, I don't think it matters if your cell phone account is personal or not. The phone plans are AT&T, not Apple, and AT&T has nothing to do with Mobile Me.

Cool, do you know how/where I can confirm that Exchange sync would work on a non-Enterprise plan? The idiots that work in the stores don't seem to really know the answer.

TheBobcat · 07-16-2008, 02:08 PM

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Cool, do you know how/where I can confirm that Exchange sync would work on a non-Enterprise plan? The idiots that work in the stores don't seem to really know the answer.

It works on the iPod touch?

Try calling Apple's sales dept.

It's in the software of the phone to set up your email account, I'm nearly positive that has nothing to do with what type of account you have with AT&T.