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08-18-2008, 10:09 PM
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question. The little blue box I'm the upper left corner usually has an E in it. I guess that is for the edge network. Sometimes it says 3G. What does it mean when it has only has a white spot in the center?
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Yes, the E is EDGE. 3G is obviously 3G. Traditionally, G is GPRS (the first generation data network. AT&T doesn't have any of these towers left, but you may find it on a roaming partner). A white dot? Maybe GPRS or maybe no data? I dunno.
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RIDE TO CURE DIABETES
I did it! 105 degree and 105 miles in Death Valley in 1 day. But it's nothing compared to what my wife and daughter do daily dealing with Type 1 diabetes.
I'm riding to raise awareness, to raise $$, but, at the end of the day, I'm riding so some day someone can say to my daughter...
"Ellie, when we were kids, what was it you had again?"
...and so I ride. 
October 17, 2009
http://ride.jdrf.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=rideCentral.personalpage&riderID=8694
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08-18-2008, 10:09 PM
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BTW 2.0.2 is supposedly out.
I haven't updated yet. My battery is done, so it is charging. Supposed to be more bug fixes.
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RIDE TO CURE DIABETES
I did it! 105 degree and 105 miles in Death Valley in 1 day. But it's nothing compared to what my wife and daughter do daily dealing with Type 1 diabetes.
I'm riding to raise awareness, to raise $$, but, at the end of the day, I'm riding so some day someone can say to my daughter...
"Ellie, when we were kids, what was it you had again?"
...and so I ride.
October 17, 2009
http://ride.jdrf.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=rideCentral.personalpage&riderID=8694
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08-18-2008, 10:18 PM
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I can sympathize with the 3G issues - at home I have them a lot (though I knew that AT&T isn't good here) but I just force the phone to Edge only and I have reliable call quality, and I have wifi internet so I'm not losing much. I'll be interested to see if 2.0.2 fixes it (and if the fix is a baseband update which I don't know if I'd want to apply).
So far where I've been, T-Mobile is the best, though I haven't tried Verizon (my chicago burb/city/West and North LP MI) 
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08-18-2008, 10:20 PM
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BTW 2.0.2 is supposedly out..
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If you try it, could you paste the baseband version
Settings > General > About > Modem Firmware
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08-18-2008, 10:37 PM
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If you try it, could you paste the baseband version
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Downloading now ... (248.7MB)
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RIDE TO CURE DIABETES
I did it! 105 degree and 105 miles in Death Valley in 1 day. But it's nothing compared to what my wife and daughter do daily dealing with Type 1 diabetes.
I'm riding to raise awareness, to raise $$, but, at the end of the day, I'm riding so some day someone can say to my daughter...
"Ellie, when we were kids, what was it you had again?"
...and so I ride.
October 17, 2009
http://ride.jdrf.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=rideCentral.personalpage&riderID=8694
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08-18-2008, 10:55 PM
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If you try it, could you paste the baseband version
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02.08.01
Why?
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RIDE TO CURE DIABETES
I did it! 105 degree and 105 miles in Death Valley in 1 day. But it's nothing compared to what my wife and daughter do daily dealing with Type 1 diabetes.
I'm riding to raise awareness, to raise $$, but, at the end of the day, I'm riding so some day someone can say to my daughter...
"Ellie, when we were kids, what was it you had again?"
...and so I ride.
October 17, 2009
http://ride.jdrf.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=rideCentral.personalpage&riderID=8694
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08-18-2008, 11:20 PM
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very interesting. the baseband code is the thing that needs hacked to get the phone unlocked. its going to be interesting to see if its the baseband that is the fix or not. potentially bad news for unlocking the 3G 
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08-19-2008, 12:29 AM
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So true...I hate that about Verizon. I can connect my voyager to the computer to transfer tracks back and forth, but I can't do any data syncing.
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Yes, Verizon doesn't want you to do anything without paying for something extra.....but if you do like 5 sec of searching on Google, you would find a free open source program called "BitPim" that lets you sync calendar, ringtones, wallpapers, etc. If BitPim didn't exist, then I would have dropped Verizon years ago.
BitPim FTW!!
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08-19-2008, 12:45 AM
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Yes, the E is EDGE. 3G is obviously 3G. Traditionally, G is GPRS (the first generation data network. AT&T doesn't have any of these towers left, but you may find it on a roaming partner). A white dot? Maybe GPRS or maybe no data? I dunno.
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I believe the white dot on the iPhone means GPRS.
EDIT: Confirmed. http://www.apple.com/iphone/tips/ Choose Status Icons
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08-20-2008, 06:08 PM
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Wonder what the stats are like on tRCMB?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/20/i...or-ipod-touch/
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For obvious reasons, we're not really big believers in optimizing Engadget for individual devices or platforms. Despite the unrelenting number of requests for an iPhone-optimized version of Engadget, we thought we'd let Apple stand by its whole "the real internet in your pocket" thing. And then we ran the numbers. We could hardly believe it.
So far in 2008, the iPhone, iPhone 3G, and iPod touch account for some 95.8% of all mobile views on the site. We're not even kidding. It's pretty hard to argue with something like that, so we're rolling out a new beta version of Engadget optimized for the iPhone at i.engadget.com. (Don't worry, we'll still be keeping m.engadget.com active, too.) Please feel free to let us know what you think in comments!
Oh, and for the stats nerds in the audience, you can check out Engadget's mobile device breakdown after the break.
Top 25 mobile / non-desktop devices hitting Engadget (Jan 1, 2008 - Aug 20, 2008)
Note: some in the top 25 have few enough views that they don't constitute 1/10th of a percent (hence 0.0%).
Apple iPhone - 79.8%
Apple iPod Touch - 16.0%
Nintendo Wii - 1.1%
HTC P3650 (aka Touch Cruise) - 0.5%
Nokia N95 8GB - 0.4%
Nokia N95 - 0.3%
HTC X7500 - 0.2%
LG VX10000 Voyager - 0.2%
Nokia E90 - 0.2%
Nokia N82 - 0.1%
Nokia E51 - 0.1%
Nokia N95-3 NAM - 0.1%
Palm Treo 755p - 0.1%
Nokia E61 - 0.1%
Sony PlayStation Portable - 0.1%
Nokia N73 - 0.1%
Nokia N81 - 0.1%
Nokia N78 - 0.0%
Nokia 6120 classic - 0.0%
Nokia E65 - 0.0%
Danger Sidekick III - 0.0%
Motorola RAZR2 V8 - 0.0%
Samsung SCH-U940 - 0.0%
Motorola Q9 - 0.0%
Sony Ericsson P1i - 0.0%
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08-20-2008, 11:21 PM
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crap, the iphone, unbelievably, does not support streaming video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm wondering if I can fake it with a nasty combination of unix pipes and apache external process calls.
Not fun!!!
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08-20-2008, 11:28 PM
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Those numbers aren't all that surprising. Earlier in this beast of a thread I probably posted similar stats and that was not long after the original iPhone had been out. I'm sure 3G has taken it up a notch.
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08-20-2008, 11:43 PM
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Those numbers aren't all that surprising. Earlier in this beast of a thread I probably posted similar stats and that was not long after the original iPhone had been out. I'm sure 3G has taken it up a notch.
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I'm only a little surprised. There is no doubt that the iPhone is the best mobile device for web browsing. I just wish that it would step up with the other stuff.
Also, curious - how would they know what device it is coming from?
And Nintendo Wii is a mobile device?
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RIDE TO CURE DIABETES
I did it! 105 degree and 105 miles in Death Valley in 1 day. But it's nothing compared to what my wife and daughter do daily dealing with Type 1 diabetes.
I'm riding to raise awareness, to raise $$, but, at the end of the day, I'm riding so some day someone can say to my daughter...
"Ellie, when we were kids, what was it you had again?"
...and so I ride.
October 17, 2009
http://ride.jdrf.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=rideCentral.personalpage&riderID=8694
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08-21-2008, 12:23 AM
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Also, curious - how would they know what device it is coming from?
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Browser User Agent Strings 
HTTP Header Viewer: list browser headers
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08-21-2008, 12:25 AM
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I'm only a little surprised. There is no doubt that the iPhone is the best mobile device for web browsing. I just wish that it would step up with the other stuff.
Also, curious - how would they know what device it is coming from?
And Nintendo Wii is a mobile device?
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Their headline is "Top 25 mobile / non-desktop devices hitting engadget.com (Jan 1, 2008 - Aug 20, 2008)"
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08-21-2008, 11:47 AM
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I know that you can detect the browser type, but seeing the difference between a AT&T Tilt and a Moto Q when they are both using the Skyfire mobile browser is a bit surprising.
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RIDE TO CURE DIABETES
I did it! 105 degree and 105 miles in Death Valley in 1 day. But it's nothing compared to what my wife and daughter do daily dealing with Type 1 diabetes.
I'm riding to raise awareness, to raise $$, but, at the end of the day, I'm riding so some day someone can say to my daughter...
"Ellie, when we were kids, what was it you had again?"
...and so I ride.
October 17, 2009
http://ride.jdrf.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=rideCentral.personalpage&riderID=8694
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08-21-2008, 12:55 PM
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This isn't about iphone, but i didnt want to start a new thread just for this question. it's a 3g question. In att's 3g coverage map shows no 3g in east lansing however earlier this week my phone was displaying 3g where it would usually have the edge E when i am in east lansing. is att expanding their 3g coverage?
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08-21-2008, 01:32 PM
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As of yesterday, I am the proud owner of a modded working T-Mobile iPhone. Any apps I shouldn't live without?
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08-21-2008, 01:53 PM
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This isn't about iphone, but i didnt want to start a new thread just for this question. it's a 3g question. In att's 3g coverage map shows no 3g in east lansing however earlier this week my phone was displaying 3g where it would usually have the edge E when i am in east lansing. is att expanding their 3g coverage?
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Yes, they are definitely expanding their 3G coverage: 3G: AT&T's 3G Network Gets Faster, Finally Coming to a Neighborhood Near You (Just Need a 3G iPhone Now)
I haven't heard it coming to Lansing, but have heard it coming to Kzoo by the end of the year ... so maybe Lansing too.
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RIDE TO CURE DIABETES
I did it! 105 degree and 105 miles in Death Valley in 1 day. But it's nothing compared to what my wife and daughter do daily dealing with Type 1 diabetes.
I'm riding to raise awareness, to raise $$, but, at the end of the day, I'm riding so some day someone can say to my daughter...
"Ellie, when we were kids, what was it you had again?"
...and so I ride.
October 17, 2009
http://ride.jdrf.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=rideCentral.personalpage&riderID=8694
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08-21-2008, 01:57 PM
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So should I buy this thing today (or order it because they probably wont have any in stock) ?
Are there any websites that the iphone CANT view?
Anyone having problems with dropped calls from 3G?
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08-21-2008, 02:05 PM
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Are there any websites that the iphone CANT view?
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The iPhone browser is MILES ahead of any other phone browser. The main category it doesn't deal with is flash sites, since it doesn't support flash.
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Thinking about buying an LG Dare...anybody have any thoughts?
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08-21-2008, 02:30 PM
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Thats what I was referring to....the flash sites.
Does that mean like YouTube? Isn't that a flash site?
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08-21-2008, 02:31 PM
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Thinking about buying an LG Dare...anybody have any thoughts?
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LG Dare has much better battery life, and a better network, with less dropped calls and better reception. I don't know how much iPhone plans are, but you can just add $15/month to any Verizon plan for unlimited data transfers (ie. web browsing and using VCast/Get It Now)....or you can just pay $1.99/MB, and not have any extra data plan.
Edit: I just checked, and the cheapest iPhone plan appears to be $70/month. You can get the LG Dare and have a $40/month plan from Verizon, or $55/month with unlimited data like the iPhone plan.
The Dare is not an "apples to apples" iPhone competitor. It doesn't have as many "apps", and none that are free. The browser is not as good.
If you use the device mainly as a phone, with some web browsing....then you should be happy with the Dare. If you have to have the best web browsing, and want to have "cool apps", with mediocre network coverage.... then the iPhone is probably for you.
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LG Dare has much better battery life, and a better network, with less dropped calls and better reception. I don't know how much iPhone plans are, but you can just add $15/month to any Verizon plan for unlimited data transfers (ie. web browsing and using VCast/Get It Now)....or you can just pay $1.99/MB, and not have any extra data plan.
Edit: I just checked, and the cheapest iPhone plan appears to be $70/month. You can get the LG Dare and have a $40/month plan from Verizon, or $55/month with unlimited data like the iPhone plan.
The Dare is not an "apples to apples" iPhone competitor. It doesn't have as many "apps", and none that are free. The browser is not as good.
If you use the device mainly as a phone, with some web browsing....then you should be happy with the Dare. If you have to have the best web browsing, and want to have "cool apps", with mediocre network coverage.... then the iPhone is probably for you.
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