What was coach Dantonio's biggest mistake so far?

Mitch Bucannon · 10-28-2007, 11:36 PM

Ok 3/4 of the season is over, there are some very good signs of improvement from the Spartans, more disciplined play, adjustments at halftime, and players that do not give up.

But, there have been things that we all don't agree with in regards to some coaching decisions. I think that

's biggest mistake so far is not playing TJ Williams opposite of Devin Thomas.

Dell, and Curry seem so young and very shaky at WR. TJ Williams has been used sparingly on offense and is used on defense. From what I see, TJ Williams if played on the offensive side could loosen things up for DThomas and KFD, along with the having two deep threats in TJW & DT, defenses would less likely load the box to stop Ringer and Caulcric.

Just my two cents. Are we that desperate on the defensive side? Is TJW not that great of a WR?

msugolfguy · 10-28-2007, 11:47 PM

His biggest mistake was taking the MSU job.

ninowesco · 10-28-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by msugolfguy

His biggest mistake was taking the MSU job.

son of a bitch, beat me to it

msugolfguy · 10-28-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ninowesco

son of a bitch, beat me to it

you and about 40,000 other people.

ErnieMcCracken · 10-28-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch Bucannon

Ok 3/4 of the season is over, there are some very good signs of improvement from the Spartans, more disciplined play, adjustments at halftime, and players that do not give up.

But, there have been things that we all don't agree with in regards to some coaching decisions. I think that

's biggest mistake so far is not playing TJ Williams opposite of Devin Thomas.

Dell, and Curry seem so young and very shaky at WR. TJ Williams has been used sparingly on offense and is used on defense. From what I see, TJ Williams if played on the offensive side could loosen things up for DThomas and KFD, along with the having two deep threats in TJW & DT, defenses would less likely load the box to stop Ringer and Caulcric.

Just my two cents. Are we that desperate on the defensive side? Is TJW not that great of a WR?

I dont believe in rewarding players for off field antics.

TheRedCedar · 10-28-2007, 11:59 PM

Not being able to control his players. The guy was supposed to change the mental make-up of this team, and yet we get burned time and time again by ridiculous personal foul calls.

OhioGMSparty · 10-29-2007, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch Bucannon

Ok 3/4 of the season is over, there are some very good signs of improvement from the Spartans, more disciplined play, adjustments at halftime, and players that do not give up.

But, there have been things that we all don't agree with in regards to some coaching decisions. I think that

's biggest mistake so far is not playing TJ Williams opposite of Devin Thomas.

Dell, and Curry seem so young and very shaky at WR. TJ Williams has been used sparingly on offense and is used on defense. From what I see, TJ Williams if played on the offensive side could loosen things up for DThomas and KFD, along with the having two deep threats in TJW & DT, defenses would less likely load the box to stop Ringer and Caulcric.

Just my two cents. Are we that desperate on the defensive side? Is TJW not that great of a WR?

????

We were UP 14 at Halftime.
Minus the Ohio State Game, we havent made any adjustments at Halftime. If you recall the same crap that Northwestern ran on us in the first half, they ran in the second. I have been throughly disappointed at his halftime adjustments.

Mitch Bucannon · 10-29-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRedCedar

Not being able to control his players. The guy was supposed to change the mental make-up of this team, and yet we get burned time and time again by ridiculous personal foul calls.

Some personal fouls are the players being super-fired up others are on the variety of just being out of control, there is a thin line that separated the two, and I beleive that MSU and Dantonio's staff have good control over the team.

I liked how Narduzzi came down to the field in the second half to rally the defense. Its the little things that the coaches do that will make this team better week after week.

spartanMF · 10-29-2007, 12:03 AM

Leaving Cincy.

Mitch Bucannon · 10-29-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioGMSparty

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We were UP 14 at Halftime.
Minus the Ohio State Game, we havent made any adjustments at Halftime. If you recall the same crap that Northwestern ran on us in the first half, they ran in the second. I have been throughly disappointed at his halftime adjustments.

Hey, last year we'd be down 14 at half, and end up down 20 by the 4th. I still see improvement week in and week out. We just have to find a way to win that first close game.

OhioGMSparty · 10-29-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch Bucannon

Hey, last year we'd be down 14 at half, and end up down 20 by the 4th. I still see improvement week in and week out. We just have to find a way to win that first close game.

How is it an improvement to blow a 14 point lead to a team who is 1-4 in the big ten???

ninowesco · 10-29-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch Bucannon

Some personal fouls are the players being super-fired up others are on the variety of just being out of control, there is a thin line that separated the two, and I beleive that MSU and Dantonio's staff have good control over the team.

I liked how Narduzzi came down to the field in the second half to rally the defense. Its the little things that the coaches do that will make this team better week after week.

those two late hit calls were more bad luck than lack of discipline

I can see why they were called but either one really could have been a no call as well

Ron Jeremy · 10-29-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch Bucannon

Ok 3/4 of the season is over, there are some very good signs of improvement from the Spartans, more disciplined play, adjustments at halftime, and players that do not give up.

But, there have been things that we all don't agree with in regards to some coaching decisions. I think that

's biggest mistake so far is not playing TJ Williams opposite of Devin Thomas.

Dell, and Curry seem so young and very shaky at WR. TJ Williams has been used sparingly on offense and is used on defense. From what I see, TJ Williams if played on the offensive side could loosen things up for DThomas and KFD, along with the having two deep threats in TJW & DT, defenses would less likely load the box to stop Ringer and Caulcric.

Just my two cents. Are we that desperate on the defensive side? Is TJW not that great of a WR?

adjustments at halftime

Are you serious?

thephoneman · 10-29-2007, 12:07 AM

Big Picture people.

Ron Jeremy · 10-29-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ninowesco

those two late hit calls were more bad luck than lack of discipline

I can see why they were called but either one really could have been a no call as well

The late hit on Misch was bogus, he never hit the Iowa player.

Mitch Bucannon · 10-29-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioGMSparty

How is it an improvement to blow a 14 point lead to a team who is 1-4 in the big ten???

Previous Spartan teams would just go belly up after blowing a 14pt lead. MSU played hard and came back to put the game into OT. There will be ups and downs in a season like ups and downs in a game, but the character of the team is different from past teams, there is were the improvement lies.

ninowesco · 10-29-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch C.

The late hit on Misch was bogus, he never hit the Iowa player.

and key was already in the process of tackling that guy as they both went out of bounds

Vince of 231 · 10-29-2007, 12:18 AM

To answer the original question, I think the biggest error was abandoning the running game in the NW OT.

I was already thinking ahead then that I hoped he'd go for 2 and end it after we scored 6, considering the heat and humidity that day and that our D wouldn't be able to stop NW in a second OT anyway. Might have been fun to see if that's what he would have called.

ninowesco · 10-29-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch Bucannon

Previous Spartan teams would just go belly up after blowing a 14pt lead. MSU played hard and came back to put the game into OT. There will be ups and downs in a season like ups and downs in a game, but the character of the team is different from past teams, there is were the improvement lies.

The team went just as belly up in the second half on saturday as any of johnelle's teams

Mitch Bucannon · 10-29-2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince of 231

To answer the original question, I think the biggest error was abandoning the running game in the NW OT.

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True, MSU's loses have come on passing plays. The NW game during OT, and MSU did abandon the pass. If we beat NW this year, that is going to sting us.

Pam478 · 10-29-2007, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch Bucannon

Previous Spartan teams would just go belly up after blowing a 14pt lead. MSU played hard and came back to put the game into OT. There will be ups and downs in a season like ups and downs in a game, but the character of the team is different from past teams, there is were the improvement lies.

Spoken like a true SB.

Ron Jeremy · 10-29-2007, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch Bucannon

Previous Spartan teams would just go belly up after blowing a 14pt lead. MSU played hard and came back to put the game into OT. There will be ups and downs in a season like ups and downs in a game, but the character of the team is different from past teams, there is were the improvement lies.

Problem is this season is all downs. We have lost every close game we have been in, and really never had a chance to win any of them.

ninowesco · 10-29-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch C.

Problem is this season is all downs. We have lost every close game we have been in, and really never had a chance to win any of them.

truth. nothing positive to take away at all.

Mitch Bucannon · 10-29-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch C.

Problem is this season is all downs. We have lost every close game we have been in, and really never had a chance to win any of them.

Every single loss MSU had a chance to win in the last minute. Someone on the team will step up. The question is who? Hoyer? Thomas? Davis? Thornhill?

YourMomsNewBoyfriend · 10-29-2007, 01:24 AM

Not challenging the spot of the punt in the first half against iowa. Every replay showed the ball never went into the endzone and that we downed it between the goal line and the one. We even had a tv timeout to consider challenging it. Instead we gave iowa the ball on the 20 and they busted a 35 yarder that led to their first score of the game.

Seriously I don't think he gets the challenge thing.