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05-09-2008, 06:58 PM
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oh and for the record the black guy was a slave on the ship and the guy who was scoping locke out was a native. jacob was the captain or something and some sort of incident occurred with all four that led them to constantly be in play over time. also is it possible jacob is a manifestation of whitmore or something like that? what if whitmore is the ancestor of jacob and ben knows if he kills whitmore he'll upset jacob and the island, thereby causing catastrophe to erupt
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Where'd you get this info from?
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05-09-2008, 10:03 PM
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Does anyone else think that Jacob might be Richard Alpert? It makes since seeing he was the one who "recruited" Ben into the others. Hwe is also seen as the same age no matter when and where and how long ago the flashback was. He is also the recruiter of those who are "needed" by the island.
I could be way off here, but isnt that what makes the show so great? There can be so many theories about anything on the show.
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05-10-2008, 12:16 AM
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#53 Greg Jones
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Looks like Jack's conclusion that the tracker was dropped to encourage the survivors to follow the copter is a mistake.
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Jack's conclusion was right (as that was the pilot's intention). Whether or not it was a mistake to follow it, depends on your point of view. Short term it got them off the island. Long term, it is a mistake to leave the island.
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05-10-2008, 12:28 AM
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time on the island speeds up and slows down based upon the tide
that's why the scientist was able to do calculations to figure it out or at least try to
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Interesting theory, only because "horace the mathematician" might reference Sir Horace Lamb, a British mathematician whose most notable work was on hydrodynamics. However, I can't imagine how they would explain it with any remotely accepted scientific theory (though maybe I need to do some brief research on hydrodynamics).
It may be that they won't try to explain the time issues through scientific theory. However, if they start just pulling things out of their butt and explain it away with nothing more than "because the island has special powers" that's pretty weak for a show that is so intellectual at it's root. I'm willing to accept some mysticism with things like the black smoke, or how the island "wants" certain things to happen. But if the show incorporates so many references to the groundbreaking physics research of the 20th century, it would be weak if they suddenly throw that all out the window.
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05-11-2008, 10:17 PM
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#53 Greg Jones
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I don't get what was up with Locke picking the knife and Richard's meltdown over it. Anyone have any idea?
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It's like the Dalai Lama test:
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Upon the death of the Dalai Lama and consultation with the Nechung Oracle, a search for the Lama's reincarnation, or yangsi (yang srid), is conducted. Familiarity with the possessions or attributes of the previous Dalai Lama is considered the main sign of the tulku. The search for the reincarnated mindstream typically requires a number of years. The reincarnated being is then installed and trained by the other Lamas.
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I'm gonna guess that the previous leader on the island had recently died and Alpert thought that young John was the reincarnation of said leader. I think he wanted him to pick the comic book (which mentioned "Hidden Land" or something of that nature), to symbolize the island.
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Yup. This is why Miles had a strange obsession with her last episode.
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Really like this theory.
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Originally Posted by MiamiSpartan
Jack's conclusion was right (as that was the pilot's intention). Whether or not it was a mistake to follow it, depends on your point of view. Short term it got them off the island. Long term, it is a mistake to leave the island.
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I'm beginning to think that the helicopter doesn't get them off the island, but rather the little raft Sayid brings back. The reason they couldn't bring anymore back after that first group is because, when they went back to get them, the island wasn't there anymore. Locke succeeded in moving the island.
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05-11-2008, 11:10 PM
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Anyone have favorite Lost blogs to occupy them during the week? I like this one: Long Live Locke., but if anyone knows of any other goods one I would be curious.
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05-11-2008, 11:23 PM
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I'm beginning to think that the helicopter doesn't get them off the island, but rather the little raft Sayid brings back. The reason they couldn't bring anymore back after that first group is because, when they went back to get them, the island wasn't there anymore. Locke succeeded in moving the island.
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thats money. i like that theory
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05-12-2008, 08:32 AM
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thats money. i like that theory
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Good theory, would be interesting to see how it's rationalized that Jack gets a spot in the first lifeboat off the island, or how Hurley fits into that little dingy.
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05-12-2008, 10:46 AM
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Good theory, would be interesting to see how it's rationalized that Jack gets a spot in the first lifeboat off the island, or how Hurley fits into that little dingy.
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It also doesn't explain how Sawyer survives, but isn't considered one of the "Oceanic Six"
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05-12-2008, 10:52 AM
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Anyone have favorite Lost blogs to occupy them during the week? I like this one: Long Live Locke., but if anyone knows of any other goods one I would be curious. |
not a Blog. just....everything.
Main Page - Lostpedia
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05-12-2008, 11:01 AM
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It also doesn't explain how Sawyer survives, but isn't considered one of the "Oceanic Six"
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Did I miss something where it is indicated that Sawyer gets off the island? The only reference I can think of to him in the flash forwards is Kate doing something for him, but that sounded like it was a promise that she made to him because he was staying on the island.
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05-12-2008, 11:28 AM
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Did I miss something where it is indicated that Sawyer gets off the island? The only reference I can think of to him in the flash forwards is Kate doing something for him, but that sounded like it was a promise that she made to him because he was staying on the island.
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They didn't say. But Kate was talking to him on a regular phone, not a satellite phone. They don't have AT&T on the island.
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I swear, the worst thing about religion is that it gives ordinarily good people an excuse to do bad things because they can simply shrug their shoulders and pin the blame on God.
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05-12-2008, 11:34 AM
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They didn't say. But Kate was talking to him on a regular phone, not a satellite phone. They don't have AT&T on the island.
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Maybe, but she identified the caller as some other mother from the playground or playgroup. She may have been lying about who she was talking to, but don't think it was established to be Sawyer.
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05-12-2008, 11:58 AM
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#53 Greg Jones
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They didn't say. But Kate was talking to him on a regular phone, not a satellite phone. They don't have AT&T on the island.
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Maybe, but she identified the caller as some other mother from the playground or playgroup. She may have been lying about who she was talking to, but don't think it was established to be Sawyer.
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She wasn't talking to Sawyer on the phone. Like Jack said, Sawyer decided to stay on the island
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05-12-2008, 12:54 PM
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I'm beginning to think that the helicopter doesn't get them off the island, but rather the little raft Sayid brings back. The reason they couldn't bring anymore back after that first group is because, when they went back to get them, the island wasn't there anymore. Locke succeeded in moving the island.
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The only thing wrong with this is that there would then be two seasons of action on the island with those six off. That freighter's getting nobody off the island and that little boat could never pull off an ocean navigation to anywhere.
What still hasn't been explained is what's on the other island that Ben claimed was actually their island when he kidnapped Sawyer.
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05-12-2008, 01:03 PM
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- Really strange how content Claire is. So far away from her personality, not caring about Aaron, etc. Maybe she is dead, as someone suggested. Who knows? Really strange.
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I think Miles heard the dead around her. She wasn't "content" when she was walking through the jungle with Aaron. I think that'd be stupid as hell if the writers tried to claim she died in the explosion but walked around super-nifty after since Ben et al saw her after the explosion. Rather, I think he was obsessing about the voices he heard around her i.e. christian and the others.
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- The guy that puts the idea of Locke going to Australia. I'm thinking we'll see him tell other people to go to Australia. He's helping to get all of these people with a destiny important to the island together. It will be very interesting to see in what capacity he shows up again.
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i think he only cares about john.
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05-12-2008, 01:14 PM
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i think he only cares about john.
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Yep, same here. John Locke had 2 previous chances to "accept" their advances and he did not. Third time was the charm, I take it 
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05-12-2008, 03:30 PM
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05-12-2008, 04:23 PM
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Agree on this
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thats money. i like that theory
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05-12-2008, 04:31 PM
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#53 Greg Jones
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In fairness to Ozy, I don't see your point in posting this. Jack's father is not Jacob. He said that he is not, but that he can speak on Jacob's behalf. Or were you posting this to show that you said that Jack's dad is not dead? I'm not sure that it means that Christian is alive either. It wouldn't be the first time on the island that a dead person appeared and talked to someone.
Of course, it would seem that Christian had some connection to the island. Maybe he was there before.
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