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Old 12-26-2007, 03:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2007, 03:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2007, 03:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Interesting read. And an interesting way to measure these things. Nice to see both Raymar and Drew getting "love" by statistical measurement. And that we have two of the top 5 players in the conference, and that Eric Gordon is not in that list of 5.
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I noticed that he expected things to also change once all the teams start the Big Ten season. I don't think there is going to be a big drop off for Drew or Raymar just because our competition has been fairly good during the non conference season so far.
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Interesting read. And an interesting way to measure these things. Nice to see both Raymar and Drew getting "love" by statistical measurement. And that we have two of the top 5 players in the conference, and that Eric Gordon is not in that list of 5.
the thing I was most intrigued by was Suton's ranking in many of those categories - especially the turnover one. That has obviously been the key to his improvement, especially considering the main knock on him has always been his seeming lack of intelligence with the ball. Good to see that he has turned that around in a way that is reflected in the statistics.
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that dude made it seem like it was unfathomable that raymar would be ahead of his boy claxton. As is raymar is some nobody. **** him
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Fans will be fans *shrug* he certainly wasn't saying that RayRay was bad.
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Fans will be fans *shrug* he certainly wasn't saying that RayRay was bad.
those comments bring his b10 bball knowledge into question. Which in turn questions the whole theorum
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2007, 07:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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that dude made it seem like it was unfathomable that raymar would be ahead of his boy claxton. As is raymar is some nobody. **** him

claxton is good. real good. that said. id definitely still take our boy ray-mo.
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Old 12-26-2007, 07:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I was going to say the same thing. Our snow looks more like flurries than the stuff he's got going on.
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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that dude made it seem like it was unfathomable that raymar would be ahead of his boy claxton. As is raymar is some nobody. **** him
Just so I understand, he makes a case that Raymar is the best player in the conference and you, as a Spartan fan, reply **** him?

UncleLar is one of the most unbiased guys out there and one of the most knowledgable especially when it comes to stats backing up his theories. He even goes on to say he thinks DJ will be the best player after the season's over. I think he was more surprised that Raymar was ahead of both DJ and Gordon. It was probably a little eye opening which is the point of his blog.

Raymar is kind of an under the radar guy right now because he didn't have any hype coming into the season as he was probably a little slowed by the stress reaction last year.

Ask any fans of other B10 teams who MSU's best player is and I bet 9/10 say Drew. You should be glad there is someone out there putting out some positive pub for Raymar.
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Just so I understand, he makes a case that Raymar is the best player in the conference and you, as a Spartan fan, reply **** him?

UncleLar is one of the most unbiased guys out there and one of the most knowledgable especially when it comes to stats backing up his theories. He even goes on to say he thinks DJ will be the best player after the season's over. I think he was more surprised that Raymar was ahead of both DJ and Gordon. It was probably a little eye opening which is the point of his blog.

Raymar is kind of an under the radar guy right now because he didn't have any hype coming into the season as he was probably a little slowed by the stress reaction last year.

Ask any fans of other B10 teams who MSU's best player is and I bet 9/10 say Drew. You should be glad there is someone out there putting out some positive pub for Raymar.
While I agree with your comments, any fan who watches Big Ten basketball when asked your final question would say that Drew is our best player, but we would be nowhere near where we are without Raymar.

I fully expect both guys to be FIRST TEAM all Big Ten this year.
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While I agree with your comments, any fan who watches Big Ten basketball when asked your final question would say that Drew is our best player, but we would be nowhere near where we are without Raymar.
I completely agree with that and I think that's was the point of UncleLar's post. I think the fact that Suton has started to really play well is also huge for you guys.
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Old 12-28-2007, 07:19 AM   #16 (permalink)
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that dude made it seem like it was unfathomable that raymar would be ahead of his boy claxton. As is raymar is some nobody. **** him
Seems you had trouble following my logic in the series. You were supposed to be surprised that Morgan was ahead of Gordon not Claxton, You must have been blinded by the fact that it was a Penn State site.

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I was going to say the same thing. Our snow looks more like flurries than the stuff he's got going on.
Where's your Christmas spirit?

I only had it up for a two days. It's gone now.
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