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Old 02-02-2008, 10:48 PM   #51 (permalink)
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PSU's last 20 points tonight came from the free throw line. Stat per radio broadcast.

Are you serious?

No the officials were good this game.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:49 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:50 PM   #53 (permalink)
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42 FT's.

MSU? 19.

MSU needs to play better defense to stop PSU, right? Well, sorry can't do that. The ref's called far too many phantom calls early in the game.

MSU needs to hit their shots, right? Well, they must fight thru hand checks and good luck getting a rebound when you are mugged.

Look folks, its simple - blaming the officials is the lowest response to a loss, I understand. However, given the amount of college basketball games I watch - I never, EVER see one sided games like tonight and Iowa.

CBS has the stats as 51 attempts for PSU and 21 for MSU. You cannot tell me that ONLY MSU PLAYED physically. There were ticky tack calls made, and absolute clubbings on MSU not called. Horrible officieating tonight. There were 2-3 turnovers out of bounds tonight that OBVIOUSLY went of PSU players...PSU ball.

But, PSU hit nine 3's.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:53 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Over on SM someone stated that PSU attempted their last FG attempt with 6:37 left to go in the game. if true. We deserved to lose to Iowa but this was just down rite rape IMHO.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:54 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Question 51 free throw attempts for Penn State



Even at scUM in '06 the Wolvies only had 34 attempts.

Granted, a few were end-of-game attempts, but that's just disgusting.

Can we get Bo Ryan to teach these kids how not to foul?
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:55 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:58 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Over on SM someone stated that PSU attempted their last FG attempt with 6:37 left to go in the game. if true. We deserved to lose to Iowa but this was just down rite rape IMHO.
Dear god. If that's true, that's absolutely amazing.

How do you think SC and College Gamenight tell the story of the game? I bet they talk about the upset, run down MSU, and praise the Lions for a while. If free throw attempts are mentioned, how much do you want to bet they're mentioned only in passing?
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:58 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I am so sick of this. I watch other teams play, and I never see the one-sidedness that seems to happen to MSU on a regular basis. I try my hardest to not be biased, and I can admit when a call is good, but what I saw tonight could in no way be considered a fair game.

You can't make an argument that this game was called fairly, you just can't. It was an absolute screwjob. Yeah our team didn't play well...it's pretty hard to play well when every time you touch a guy it's a foul. THEY DIDN'T LET US PLAY DEFENSE!!!!

That was absolutely the most one-sided game I've ever seen, and I've seen a few. It is clear from watching Big 10 refs in general that they are an absolute joke compared to other conferences.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:02 PM   #59 (permalink)
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we palyed terrible dfense. that is why we lost. yoy can't let the refs dictate the game. they made shots, we didn't. they played decent defense, we didn't. penn state deserved to win. they wanted it more. state needs a true leader. izzo can only do so much.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:04 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I am so sick of this. I watch other teams play, and I never see the one-sidedness that seems to happen to MSU on a regular basis. I try my hardest to not be biased, and I can admit when a call is good, but what I saw tonight could in no way be considered a fair game.

You can't make an argument that this game was called fairly, you just can't. It was an absolute screwjob. Yeah our team didn't play well...it's pretty hard to play well when every time you touch a guy it's a foul. THEY DIDN'T LET US PLAY DEFENSE!!!!

That was absolutely the most one-sided game I've ever seen, and I've seen a few. It is clear from watching Big 10 refs in general that they are an absolute joke compared to other conferences.
EXACTLY.

I REALLY try not to be biased, but SERIOUSLY?! We have been ****ed TWICE this season (however, Iowa we didnt deserve to win). Where is this BS refing for Wisc.,Purdue and Indiana???!! If either of them had a game as bad as ours tonight it would be "easier" to take, but right now the refs are takin away the B10 championship from us.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:05 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Over on SM someone stated that PSU attempted their last FG attempt with 6:37 left to go in the game. if true. We deserved to lose to Iowa but this was just down rite rape IMHO.
The stats/quick facts from this game are mind-boggling. Absolutely surreal.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:10 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Seriously, why does the Big Ten seem to hate us? We represent it better than anybody else come Tournament time.

I know I'm not just crazy, because I used to think MSU never got calls in football, but I noticed that the Big Ten refs were WAY better this past year, and have in fact improved by a surprising margin. So I am able to see that MSU got fair treatment in football (except that Bowling Green game, holy crap). I think the Big Ten saw their football officials were doing poorly and corrected the problem, but I am convinced Big Ten basketball refs still SUCK ASS. I know decent officiating when I see it, and Big Ten basketball does not have decent officiating. It has easily the worst officiating of any major conference by a mile.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:13 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Look, this is a bad team. However it is just a coincidence that we lost 2 games when the other team way out shot us at the FT line? Not one person on the ****ing board can tell me that every time down the court PSU was fouled. That is utter bull****. I am sick of seeing this BS.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:14 PM   #64 (permalink)
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PSU's last 20 points tonight came from the free throw line. Stat per radio broadcast.


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Over on SM someone stated that PSU attempted their last FG attempt with 6:37 left to go in the game. if true. We deserved to lose to Iowa but this was just down rite rape IMHO.

Looks like 6:31

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6:3164-65PSUBrandon Hassell missed Tip-in
6:23
MISTDefensive Rebound by Drew Naymick
6:30
PSUShooting foul on Brandon Hassell
6:3064-65MISTRaymar Morgan missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
6:3065-65MISTRaymar Morgan made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
6:02
PSULost ball turnover on Mike Walker, Stolen by Drew Naymick
5:51
PSUShooting foul on Talor Battle
5:5165-65MISTDrew Neitzel missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
5:5166-65MISTDrew Neitzel made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
5:19
MISTPersonal foul on Marquise Gray
5:1966-66PSUTalor Battle made 1st of 2 Free Throws
5:1966-67PSUTalor Battle made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
5:0469-67MISTDrew Neitzel made 3-pt. Jump Shot, Assist Kalin Lucas
4:47
MISTLost ball turnover on Raymar Morgan, Stolen by Jamelle Cornley
4:2969-67MISTRaymar Morgan missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
4:09
MISTOffensive foul on Drew Naymick
4:0969-68PSUDavid Jackson made 1st of 2 Free Throws
4:0969-69PSUDavid Jackson made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:5669-69MISTRaymar Morgan missed Leaning Jump Shot
3:56
MISTPersonal foul on Marquise Gray
3:56

TV Timeout
3:5669-69PSUBrandon Hassell missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:5669-69PSUBrandon Hassell missed 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:56
PSULoose ball foul on Geary Claxton
3:5669-69PSUJamelle Cornley missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:5669-70PSUJamelle Cornley made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:41
PSUPersonal foul on David Jackson
3:4169-70MISTRaymar Morgan missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:4169-70MISTRaymar Morgan missed 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:41
PSUDefensive Rebound by Stanley Pringle
3:40
PSULoose ball foul on Jamelle Cornley
3:40
MISTLoose ball foul on Raymar Morgan
3:4069-71PSUMike Walker made 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:4069-72PSUMike Walker made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:3569-72MISTDrew Neitzel missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
3:30
PSUDefensive Rebound by Stanley Pringle
3:20
MISTPersonal foul on Travis Walton
3:2069-73PSUStanley Pringle made 1st of 2 Free Throws
3:2069-74PSUStanley Pringle made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
3:17
MIST30-second Timeout
3:1471-74MISTKalin Lucas made Leaning Jump Shot, Assist Goran Suton
2:43
PSUDiscontinued dribble turnover on Talor Battle
2:4071-74MISTDrew Neitzel missed Jump Shot
2:30
MISTOffensive Rebound by Goran Suton
2:30
MIST30-second Timeout
2:2771-74MISTRaymar Morgan missed Turnaround Jump Shot
2:27
PSUDefensive Rebound by Jamelle Cornley
1:57
MISTShooting foul on Raymar Morgan
1:5771-75PSUDavid Jackson made 1st of 2 Free Throws
1:5771-76PSUDavid Jackson made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
1:4873-76MISTGoran Suton made Layup, Assist Kalin Lucas
1:42
PSUShooting foul on Jamelle Cornley
1:4274-76MISTGoran Suton made Free Throw
1:25
PSU30-second Timeout
1:16
MISTPersonal foul on Kalin Lucas
1:1674-77PSUDavid Jackson made 1st of 2 Free Throws
1:1674-78PSUDavid Jackson made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
1:0074-78MISTTravis Walton missed Layup
56.0
PSUDefensive Rebound by Jamelle Cornley
54.0
MISTPersonal foul on Goran Suton
54.074-78PSUJamelle Cornley missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
54.074-79PSUJamelle Cornley made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
54.0
MIST30-second Timeout
46.074-79MISTChris Allen missed Layup
41.0
PSUDefensive Rebound by Jamelle Cornley
41.0
MISTPersonal foul on Travis Walton
41.074-79PSUTalor Battle missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
41.074-80PSUTalor Battle made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
32.0
PSUPersonal foul on Schyler King
32.0
PSUPersonal foul on Talor Battle
32.074-80MISTKalin Lucas missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
32.075-80MISTKalin Lucas made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
32.076-80MISTKalin Lucas made Free Throw
32.0
MISTFull Timeout
32.0
MISTPersonal foul on Kalin Lucas
32.076-81PSUStanley Pringle made 1st of 2 Free Throws
32.076-82PSUStanley Pringle made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
30.076-82MISTDrew Neitzel missed Floating Jump Shot
26.0
MISTPersonal foul on Kalin Lucas
26.076-83PSUStanley Pringle made 1st of 2 Free Throws
26.076-84PSUStanley Pringle made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
26.0
MISTFull Timeout
21.076-84MISTChris Allen missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
15.0
MISTOffensive Rebound by Kalin Lucas
14.076-84MISTKalin Lucas missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
9.0
PSUDefensive Rebound by Jamelle Cornley
9.0
MISTPersonal foul on Travis Walton
9.076-84PSUJamelle Cornley missed 1st of 2 Free Throws
9.076-85PSUJamelle Cornley made 2nd of 2 Free Throws
7.076-85MISTDurrell Summers missed 3-pt. Jump Shot
7.0
PSUDefensive Rebound by Stanley Pringle
0.0End of period.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:15 PM   #65 (permalink)
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that is serious, unbelievable. ive watched the college game for 20+ years, don't remember that kind of stat ever.

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No the officials were good this game.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:15 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Maybe they should institute a coaches challenge on 5 calls per half

...oh man that would be unbearable
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:17 PM   #67 (permalink)
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no, seriously, please don't... that would still be unwatchable. Can you imagine a game with 100 free throws?
They'd still be playing.
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