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Is it possible for the British Monarchy to be overthrown and a new monarch installed?
After watching The Tudors and the movie Anne of a Thousand Days...I'm wondering about the state of the current monarchy. Can it be over thrown with the over throwers installing a new monarch?
Even though they don't have any real power any more?
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Of course it is theoretically possible. The masses might do this if they seek an even more bizarre soap opera. 
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04-19-2008, 09:29 PM
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I know there's at least one active UK-based Spartan who could answer, but the gut instinct is that you would find yourself going up against well over 90% of the population.
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04-19-2008, 09:30 PM
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I know there's at least one active UK-based Spartan who could answer, but the gut instinct is that you would find yourself going up against well over 90% of the population.
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I think the fact that, in theory, it is completely possible, keeps the people pretty happy, since they've had the gun in their hands for so long, they really don't have any desire to fire it.
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04-19-2008, 09:44 PM
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lets overthrow some people with absolutely NO POWER.
What a waste of time and energy
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04-19-2008, 09:50 PM
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not if the ELPD showed up to teargas the mobs.
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lets overthrow some people with absolutely NO POWER.
What a waste of time and energy
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Legally they still have power, however the monarchy know it's political suicide to execute it.
However, there is a large group in Britain who are fed up of having some of their tax dollars going to pay for a head of state which they feel is arcane and superfluous. Who knows, maybe they start to get some legs in the next decade or so, and just remove them permanently.
Although, then they would have to change their national anthem...
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04-19-2008, 10:07 PM
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Legally they still have power, however the monarchy know it's political suicide to execute it.
However, there is a large group in Britain who are fed up of having some of their tax dollars going to pay for a head of state which they feel is arcane and superfluous. Who knows, maybe they start to get some legs in the next decade or so, and just remove them permanently.
Although, then they would have to change their national anthem...
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How is this different than Bush and the US Gov't?? 
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04-19-2008, 10:16 PM
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How is this different than Bush and the US Gov't?? |
because the US government takes actions that affects the daily lives of people all over the world. the queen doesn't do squat.
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04-19-2008, 10:37 PM
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I'd be happy if they would just get out of Northern Irleand so that the 32 counties could be reunited.
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There would be absolutely no point to that whatsoever.
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04-19-2008, 11:17 PM
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lets overthrow some people with absolutely NO POWER.
What a waste of time and energy
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That being said, I would totally support an overthrow of the current British Monarchy. At the very least, I would buy a t-shirt supporting the usurpers.
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I know there's at least one active UK-based Spartan who could answer, but the gut instinct is that you would find yourself going up against well over 90% of the population.
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It would also be sedition and/or high treason
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04-19-2008, 11:43 PM
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How is this different than Bush and the US Gov't?? |
because in the US the Head of State is the Head of Government...
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04-20-2008, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades
Legally they still have power, however the monarchy know it's political suicide to execute it.
However, there is a large group in Britain who are fed up of having some of their tax dollars going to pay for a head of state which they feel is arcane and superfluous. Who knows, maybe they start to get some legs in the next decade or so, and just remove them permanently.
Although, then they would have to change their national anthem...
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Don't the Royals have enough money to sustain themselves w/o tax income? Isn't the queen a billionaire, with only the Virgin guy & Grosvenor above her on GB's 400 list?
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04-20-2008, 01:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcibiades
Legally they still have power, however the monarchy know it's political suicide to execute it.
However, there is a large group in Britain who are fed up of having some of their tax dollars going to pay for a head of state which they feel is arcane and superfluous. Who knows, maybe they start to get some legs in the next decade or so, and just remove them permanently.
Although, then they would have to change their national anthem...
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They better calculate how much the monarchy brings into the country each year in tourism and such if they're going to get p.o.'ed about some of the tax money sustaining a big meal ticket. I'm sure the number crunchers have done the math a long time ago.
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I find a more interesting question to be the exact time when the situation went from how it was during Henry VIII / Elizabeth I (complete power over everything), to how it is now (trot them out on special occasions to make people clap).
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04-20-2008, 01:57 AM
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I know there's at least one active UK-based Spartan who could answer, but the gut instinct is that you would find yourself going up against well over 90% of the population.
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There is actually a lot of opposition to the royal family in the UK. Englishmen that say they are fiscally irresponsible, N. Irish that say they are irrelevant, Scotsman that say they are a symbol of oppression (or simply don't give an arse), and Welsh that are... well... Welsh.
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04-20-2008, 01:58 AM
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I find a more interesting question to be the exact time when the situation went from how it was during Henry VIII / Elizabeth I (complete power over everything), to how it is now (trot them out on special occasions to make people clap).
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What is the Magna Carta?  
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What is the Magna Carta? |
Not sure, but the Great Charter predates the Elizabethian period by a couple hundred years. Like all "living documents" the Magna Carta is about as effective a mechanism of government as the people in power at any given time...
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This is of course a silly question. The only serious question on the table has been whether to get rid of the monarchy altogether, and that seems to be a minority view in the UK. After Princess Diana died a martyr, there is too much tabloid fodder potential to toss away.
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This is of course a silly question. The only serious question on the table has been whether to get rid of the monarchy altogether, and that seems to be a minority view in the UK. After Princess Diana died a martyr, there is too much tabloid fodder potential to toss away.
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Diana was not a princess any more when she died. 
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04-20-2008, 08:57 AM
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There is a small minority here in the UK that wants to abolish the monarchy -- usually the same crowd that wants to ban the use of all automobiles, turn over all the National Heritage sites to squatters and make it illegal for women to shave their legs and armpits.
Most of the people I know like the Queen (the Duke of Edinburgh, not so much) but do not want to see Charles become King. They would be quite happy to skip over Charles and make Prince William the next King.
I'll admit to being a monarchist, even to the point that I would like to see the Crown more involved in the government. Even if it's a simple banishment here and there, the occasional public flogging and a nice beheading or two on public holidays. I also would like to see William's girlfriend, Kate Middleton, become Queen and be the first British monarch to pose for Playboy.
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I know there's at least one active UK-based Spartan who could answer, but the gut instinct is that you would find yourself going up against well over 90% of the population.
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