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Old 04-20-2008, 09:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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tOffical "I've given up on the Tigers for the 2008 season" thread.

Not saying they won't make the playoffs and I'm not saying they will either. Just giving people here a place to make their official declaration when they decide the season is over as far as being anything meaningful. Whether it be today or 140 games from now.

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Old 04-20-2008, 09:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nah, I think they can go 95-55 the rest of the way and make the playoffs. They've shown how they could reach 30 games over .500.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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lots of issues on this team right now and Granderson can't fix any of them really
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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lots of issues on this team right now and Granderson can't fix any of them really
Didn't you say that the Tigers needed to be 3-3 on this roadtrip? Well, they can reach that goal tomorrow.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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By the way, looks like Granderson is playing in West Michigan tomorrow night and Toledo on Tuesday night. Looking at a Wednesday return.

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Old 04-20-2008, 09:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Not even close. 162 games dude.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Didn't you say that the Tigers needed to be 3-3 on this roadtrip? Well, they can reach that goal tomorrow.

yep, 3-3 was my goal. I am hoping they can get there. Then pick a game or two up at home this week. 4-2 or 5-1. be a good couple weeks for the Tigers if they could do that
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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yep, 3-3 was my goal. I am hoping they can get there. Then pick a game or two up at home this week. 4-2 or 5-1. be a good couple weeks for the Tigers if they could do that
They need to get their pitching in order. Hopefully somebody is able to correct some of the mechanical deficiencies in these pitchers soon.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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They need to get their pitching in order. Hopefully somebody is able to correct some of the mechanical deficiencies in these pitchers soon.
yeah we have got to get better starts and more strikes from all our pitchers
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Not even close. 162 games dude.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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They need to get their pitching in order. Hopefully somebody is able to correct some of the mechanical deficiencies in these pitchers soon.

Correct what? Except for Verlander they are all pitching at about their career averages. It wasn't a good staff preseason, its not a good staff now and won't be a good staff in the future. I know you don't see that though, you are pretty delusional when it comes to the Tiggers.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Correct what? Except for Verlander they are all pitching at about their career averages. It wasn't a good staff preseason, its not a good staff now and won't be a good staff in the future. I know you don't see that though, you are pretty delusional when it comes to the Tiggers.
Rogers 08 ERA: 6.33
Career: 4.21

Robertson 08: 7.02
Career: 4.65

Verlander 08: 7.03
career: 3.93

so that's 3/5ths of the rotation at least 2 runs above their career averages. So what the hell are you talking about?
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Rogers 08 ERA: 6.33
Career: 4.21

Robertson 08: 7.02
Career: 4.65

Verlander 08: 7.03
career: 3.93

so that's 3/5ths of the rotation at least 2 runs above their career averages. So what the hell are you talking about?
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This staff is almost the same staff that led the majors in ERA in 2006.

All they need to do is figure out how to get back to that:

Justin Verlander - 3.63
Kenny Rogers - 3.84
Nate Robertson - 3.84
Jeremy Bonderman - 4.08
Dontrelle Willis - (3.87+0.25 AL Adjustment) - 4.12
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Rogers 08 ERA: 6.33
Career: 4.21

Robertson 08: 7.02
Career: 4.65

Verlander 08: 7.03
career: 3.93

so that's 3/5ths of the rotation at least 2 runs above their career averages. So what the hell are you talking about?
paging Ari for a response??? don't hide after you throw up crap like that
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I will wait a few more weeks to get a satisfactory read on this team. In spurts, they have shown that they can be very good.

The biggest problem I've seen is their tendency to follow up a good event with a bad one. Today, for example, they got a pair of runs to take a 2-1 lead, then promptly gave four right back (when it could have been just one).
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:46 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Should Cleveland also give up on their season? They're 7-12. How about the 7-11 Los Angeles Dodgers or the 8-10 Phillies?

If we are still having this conversation in a month then I might hit the panic button. They are showing too many signs of life for me to bail just yet.
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:19 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:22 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Should Cleveland also give up on their season? They're 7-12. How about the 7-11 Los Angeles Dodgers or the 8-10 Phillies?

If we are still having this conversation in a month then I might hit the panic button. They are showing too many signs of life for me to bail just yet.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I still think they can be good, they just have to work on getting the clutch hit. How many times the last few games have they stranded the bases loaded??

Its obvious other teams pitchers are being very careful with this lineup (For example Toronto has walked 15 Tigers this series) but the Tigers are not taking advantage of it. In fact, when Miggy doubled Maggs in yesterday, that was the first time any ONE of those 15 walks scored....

Its a very fine line and they are just not getting the clutch hit at the right time.

Dont know where to check this, but I would bet the Tigers are at the top in the majors in runners stranded on base and in scoring position.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:09 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:12 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:15 AM   #24 (permalink)
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